Finecom Telecommunications has a new job position in the network
We will bring:
- Workplace in Biel (Directly at the central railway station)
- Job inside a small team
- etc :-)
You should bring:
- Good cisco know-how and operational experience
- Familar with technologies like IP, OSPF, BGP4, MPLS, DOCSIS
- Language: German / English / French
For more informations or further questions please contact me
well, i think RSS is quite a standard and there are possibilities to
provide the swinog mailinglist also as RSS feed..
but anyway, a forum/blog is the wrong way... mail should be still the
way of communication for swinog members ,-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch
> [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Xaver Aerni
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM
> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
> think to install an RSS Client is in different offices is a
> Problem. If we make a change is a Forum (or new called Blogg)
> the beter idea. But you must check what is in the future the
> best way. I think some people uesing Handshields or Mobiles
> for reading the list...
> I don't konw if in future are RSS Reader avable for this products.
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> From: "Tonnerre LOMBARD" <tonnerre(a)bsdprojects.net>
> To: "Glogger Steven" <S.Glogger(a)cybernet.ch>
> Cc: <swinog(a)swinog.ch>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
> > _______________________________________________
> > swinog mailing list
> > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch
> > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
> swinog mailing list
On some mail servers under my (co-)responsability, the
DSBL blacklist is used on smtp-server level to try to fight a
little bit against spam.
Problem: some customers online via gprs are unable to send mails
over these servers, because their external visible IP adress
(gprs01.swisscom-mobile.ch: 18.104.22.168) is blacklisted on
We asked swisscom why they don't try to get away from
these lists, but the answer is that we should rather whitelist
them: "Die grösseren Schweizer Internet Service Anbieter
haben sich vielmehr darauf geeinigt, die IP Nummern von
Zugangsanbietern wie Swisscom Mobile auf ihre WhiteList zu
Do you think it's the correct way to react? :)
Delisting from dsbl.org wouldn't work anyway, at least
until abuse or postmaster adresses are created:
General question: are you (the postmasters around) using
blacklists like dsbl or spamhaus directely on smtp-level
(directely rejecting the mails from listed IP's) or only
after (like in spamassassin & co.) ?
Olivier Müller - PGP key ID: 0x0E84D2EA - Switzerland
We're looking for an experienced UNIX Administrator/Support engineer.
The tasks include to maintain internet and network applications on
approximately 20 servers, install and maintain new servers,
and to provide 2nd and 3d level support to our customers.
The candidate should be able to show a good knowledge of general Unix
administration. Experience with Solaris and Linux is welcome, but is
not a requirement. Knowledge of network applications and protocols,
such as email, web, dns, etc. is necessary. Perl and bourne shell
scripting experience is desired.
Knowledge of IP routing and switching basics is a plus too.
The candidate will have to work autonomously, find the answers and
solutions on his(her) own, be ready to work under pressure and under
The requirement is a Swiss or EU citizenship and fluent German and English.
Fluent French is a plus.
The office is located in Schlieren, in approximately 30 minutes from
Zurich HB, or 5 minutes by bus from Zurich-Altstetten station.
Please feel free to contact me, as given below.
Senior System Engineer
GPS Technik AG
Tel : +41 (0)44 732 99 53
Fax : +41 (0)44 731 18 40
Mobile: +41 (0)79 407 02 24
mail : s.sinyagin(a)gpstechnik.ch
www : http://www.gpstechnik.ch
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In february this year we detected a lot of spam, being sent from dial-up
accounts in the responsibility of AS9145.
Those spam emails are sent from the well known swiss spamer 'Martin Fürst'
who won't get internet-access at almost all ISP in Switzerland and many more
in UK Germany and China.
I had quite a few phone calls with EWETEL techs and finaly with their law
responsible (Mr. Heder.)
As I understood their policy does not allow them to block internet-access to
the customer sending those spam mails. (Nor to reveal his identity which I
never asked for... he is too well known).
Today more spam-mails with typical 'Martin Fürst' signatures arrived to
various spam-traps and customer addresses.
Unfortunately right now I was not able to catch Mr. Heder, and on the support
number they again didn't want to put me through to the abuse-desk responsible
or to the management, ceo or cto of EWETEL.
So I think time has come the ISP running mailservers affected by those
spam-floods from EWETEL have to put up a bit more pressure.
We are considering filtering AS9145 on our routers and to list the IP-ranges
of AS9145 on the SWINOG Antispam Blacklists; if we still don't get the reply
from EWETEL that this customer is definitively banned from their network
within a few days.
What are your opinions?
Would other ISP join?
Mit freundlichen Grüssen
I m p r o W a r e A G - System Services
Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 00
CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 01
Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch
well, i personally dont see a difference between fürst and any other korean, US or spanish spammer.
so why should i block any other ISP's AS/traffic? the collateral damage might be too big and does not justify the filtering.
anyway, i dont like spammer and i don't like fürst at all. i cannot understand the reasons of EWETEL to not react on it, because it's a normal abuse case where they risk to get on blacklists which can cause them more damage.. but anyway, thats their risk....
if you think to put the whole AS9145 to the swinog antispam list we might consider to not use anymore the list, because we're having then a sorbs-a-like effect which i dont like ...
but i'm not the decision maker in our company, so this remains a personal view ;-)
Just want to ask you if it is "allowed" to reset the IP-PRECEDENCE/DSCP-Field to
Zero (or any other value) at the border of an ISP network?
Means there is no problem if an IP-Transit provider reset the customers
IP-PREC/DSCP field because INTERNET is best effort and therefore each ISP can do
with the IP-PREC/DSCP whatever he want's because each ISP has it's own
"QoS-Domain and rules"?
For me resetting the IP-PREC/DSCP is a must concerning security and to declare
Internet-Traffic as BE in internal networks.
Or I am wrong and are there any existing rules in the "ISP" community relating
Are you resetting the IP-PREC/DSCP as well?
Thanks and greetings,
Good morning (o;
As I decided to leave 4589 to give my family a higher priority
as some might already know I'm looking for a small 1HU space
for my tiny little server for my Linux/OSX/SIP and openrouter
development stuff...average traffic well below 50kbits/sec...
preferrably Zurich area...
ps: net-engineers can of course apply at 4589.ch....
but I'm not gonna comment on that or give any
further information (o;