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Switzerlandwide Internet problem
by Michele Capobianco 16 Jul '23

16 Jul '23

Hey all A friend just told me that Cybernet told him there is a Switzerlandwide Internet Problem. Does anybody know something? Cheers Michele -------- Online Consulting AG, Michele Capobianco, System Administrator, Weststrasse 38, CH-9500 Wil Phone +41 (0)71 913 31 31, Fax +41 (0)71 913 31 32 http://www.online.ch, michele.capobianco(a)online.ch<mailto:michele.capobianco@online.ch> --------

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.ch registrars : goodbye nic.ch, but where to go then ?
by Olivier Mueller 11 May '15

11 May '15

Hello, As you most probably all know, .ch domains which are still registered at nic.ch have to be moved to another registrar by autumn 2016 (https://www.nic.ch/reg/cm/wcm-page/misc/aufgabentrennung.html). But thanks to some recent marketing campaigns (like "Per 31. Dezember 2014 braucht Ihre .ch-Domain ein neues Zuhause!"), ads and newspaper articles, some customers are already panicking, so I am also looking for a new home for a few hundreds of self-hosted domains. Requirements: - it should be a registrar only company, if possible (to prevent departure of customers to other hosting companies) - customer billed directly - DNSSEC / IPV6 capable - no aggressive ads on checkout (add antivirus, add top listing, add hosting, etc.) At the moment, my first choice would be gandi.net, even if they are a little bit more expensive than the others and they are also selling some kind of hosting, because it "just works", and I like their "no bullshit" promise :) But maybe there would be a more suitable alternative, so my question to you if you are in a similar situation : which is your new .ch-registrar and why ? Thanks & kind regards, Olivier PS: just in case, here is the current list of .ch-Registrars according to the official listing @ Switch, sorted by yearly-cost (no warranty of correctness). 26 companies out of total 70 are not listed (no visible public pricing, reseller-only, etc.) : CHF URL 1 8.90 http://www.infomaniak.com/en 2 9.90 https://www1.q-x.ch/ 3 9.95 http://www.greenmark-it.de/ 4 10.70 https://www.hosttech.ch/ 5 10.75 https://www.metanet.ch/ 6 10.81 http://www.ovh.com/fr/index.xml 7 11.90 http://www.kreativmedia.ch/de/ 8 11.96 http://www.hostway.de/ 9 12.90 http://www.netzone.ch/ 10 12.95 http://www.novatrend.ch/de/ 11 13.50 http://www.1api.net/ 12 13.80 http://www.bar.ch/ 13 13.90 http://www.firestorm.ch/ 14 14.00 https://www.iway.ch/ 15 14.16 http://www.123domain.eu/ 16 14.42 https://www.namebay.com/ 17 14.50 http://www.green.ch/de-ch/home.aspx 18 14.50 http://www.netim.com/domain/ 19 14.90 https://www.amenic.ch/de/ 20 14.90 https://www.cyon.ch/domains/ch-transfer 21 14.90 http://www.easyname.com/en 22 14.90 http://www.webland.ch/ 23 15.00 https://www.hostfactory.ch/ 24 15.00 http://www.hostpoint.ch/ 25 15.00 http://www.vtx.ch/ 26 15.50 http://www.domainpartner.ch/ 27 15.50 http://www.mhs.ch/domains 28 15.50 http://www.switchplus.ch/?lang=de 29 15.90 https://www.hosteurope.ch/ 30 16.12 http://www.gandi.net/ 31 16.71 http://www.inwx.de/ 32 18.03 http://www.1domain.at/ 33 18.36 https://www.101domain.com/ 34 18.41 http://www.marcaria.com/ 35 19.00 https://www.openprovider.co.uk 36 19.71 http://www.domaindiscount24.com/de/ch-domain 37 20.05 https://www.checkdomain.de/ 38 33.66 https://www.eurodns.com/ 39 36.06 http://www.info.at/ 40 58.90 http://www.1und1.de/ 41 59.50 http://www.register.eu/ 42 70.92 http://www.domainname.at/ 43 101.75 http://www.instra.com/ 44 119.00 https://www.united-domains.de/

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SwiNOG #28 (06.05.2015) - Call for Paper
by Simon Ryf 19 Mar '15

19 Mar '15

Dear SwiNOG supporter, The 28th meeting of the Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) will be held in Berne on top of the Gurten on May 6th 2015. Important Dates for SwiNOG#28 --------------------------------------------------- 19.03.2015 Announcement of Meeting 05.04.2015 Call for Papers 14.04.2015 Registration opens 24.04.2015 Call for Papers closing 27.04.2015 Final publication of agenda 01.05.2015 Registration closes 04.05.2015 Deadline for all slides 06.05.2015 Meeting day Topics for Presentations/Talks --------------------------------------------------- The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be between 10 to 45 minutes. However proposals for longer/shorter presentations or presentations whose subject falls outside of the topics below are also welcome; please do not hesitate to submit them. Here is a non-exhaustive list of typical SwiNOG meeting topics: - Security - DDOS Mitigation - AntiSpam - IPv6 - Open Source tools - International view of the internet (incidents, outages, measurements) - Routing - Server applications (DNS, Web, etc.) - Legal issues (BÜPF, etc.) - Telecommunication politics (Net Neutrality, Incumbent monopoly, etc.) Language of Slides and Talks --------------------------------------------------- The whole day will be held in English, therefore we kindly ask you to produce your presentation in English. Submission Guidelines --------------------------------------------------- All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely promotional for your employer. Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose sizes may vary considerably. To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the following information to <swinog-core at swinog.ch>: * the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation) * a working email address * the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation * the title of the presentation * its expected length (in minutes) * a short abstract of the presentation (so we know what it is about) We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be valuable to the SwiNOG community. Please be aware that your presentation will be published on the SwiNOG website after the event. We can publish modified slides if requested - it might be that some confidential data will be presented by you which are not intended for publication on the internet. Greetings, Simon Ryf SwiNOG Core Team General Information (SwiNOG Community) --------------------------------------------------- The Swiss Network Operators Group (SwiNOG) is an informal group of people who are concerned with engineering and operation of the Swiss Internet. SwiNOG exists to enhance the quality of Internet services available in Switzerland. It does this by fostering the free exchange of technical ideas and information between different companies and organisations. SwiNOG is a community for professionals who are operating, designing or researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect of their (net)work. The meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other professionals close to the network community. More information about SwiNOG can be found at http://www.swinog.ch/ Information about the meeting will be published at http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog26/ General Information (SwiNOG Organisation) --------------------------------------------------- The SwiNOG Organisation Association is a non-profit association under article 60 and further of the swiss civil law. It manages the SwiNOG community ressources (domain, web, mailing-lists, etc..) and organises SwiNOG meetings. Contact: SwiNOG Organisation 8000 Zurich Switzerland

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Bluewin IP blacklists ?
by Per Jessen 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

Does anyone happen to know which blacklists Bluewin uses to reject emails up front? One of my customers is complaining he is unable to communicate with Bluewin users: delivery temporarily suspended: host mxzhh.bluewin.ch[195.186.227.50] refused to talk to me: 451 Connection not accepted from blacklisted IP address [74.55.86.74] The IP address belongs to Webfaction.com, they would like to investigate the matter. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.4°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland.

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RFC1918 IP's im Internet-Trace outbound - eine Unsitte - oder liege ich falsch ?
by Stephan Wolf 12 Mar '15

12 Mar '15

Hallo Swinog, seit gestern bin ich mit meinem 2. Internet-Homefeed wieder Sunrise Kunde. Die haben nun RFC 1918 IP's im Trace, was ich als falsch empfinde. Bisher hatte bis vor rund 1 Jahr die Unsitte nur Cablecom. Nun auch wieder Sunrise. Daher hier mal einfach eine Frage hierzu / Meinungen: Ich finde es FALSCH, im Internet auf Routern RFC1918 IP's zu verwenden. (ausser auf Management IP's die NICHT in Traces etc zu sehen sind) Siehe unten. Vielleicht liege ich auch ja falsch, oder sehe es zu "kleinkariert" - daher hier meine offene Frage, um erstmal vor meiner (Wissens-) Türe zu kehren. Ist das meine "best practice", KEINE RFC1918 IPs im Internet zu verwenden, oder liege ich da falsch ? Eigentlich sollen diese nach RFC auch nicht geroutet werden im Internet. Klar kann man das "abschalten" - aber ich finde das NICHT korrekt diese im Internet zu Routen. Danke für eure Erleuchtung meinerseits z.B. Sunrise seit gestern: Outbound: Routenverfolgung zu adminsrv4.admin.ch [162.23.39.73] über maximal 30 Abschnitte: 1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms [192.168.208.254] >> interner Router 2 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms [192.168.178.254] >> Sunrise Fritzbox / ext IP 62.167.73.175 (und nun gehts los...) 3 13 ms 10 ms 11 ms 10.136.71.241 4 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 172.16.22.150 5 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms 172.16.18.177 6 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms 194.230.109.141 7 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 8 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 9 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. 10 16 ms 15 ms 18 ms 212.161.180.50 11 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 194.230.36.210 12 20 ms 18 ms 22 ms pos20-bebun3isp-ipe1.inetbb.admin.ch [162.23.16.254] 13 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms gi03-bemon74isp-ipe1.inetbb.admin.ch [162.23.16.245] 14 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms gi101-befll15a-sge-ice1.inetbb.admin.ch [162.23.17.250] 15 * * * Zeitüberschreitung der Anforderung. Inbound: traceroute 62.167.73.175 traceroute to 62.167.73.175 (62.167.73.175), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets (snipp) 10 r1gva3.core.init7.net (77.109.128.66) 8.529 ms 8.689 ms 8.773 ms 11 gw-sunrise.init7.net (82.197.163.10) 3.891 ms 3.828 ms 3.795 ms 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 oer02lsr01.xe-5-0-2.bb.sunrise.net (212.161.180.201) 7.590 ms zur01are02.xe-4-0-0.bb.sunrise.net (212.161.180.206) 8.383 ms 195.141.215.45 (195.141.215.45) 7.451 ms 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 adsl-62-167-73-175.adslplus.ch (62.167.73.175) 17.696 ms !X 20.152 ms !X 19.375 ms !X VG Stephan

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Someone from Metanet here?
by Andre Timmermann 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Hi, is someone from Metanet here who will NOT respond with boiler plates? ;) There is something funny with the ownership of a Domain which needs some cleaning up. Please contact me offlist. Thanks, Andre

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SwiNOG-BE141 - Beer Event 141 @ Helvti Diner / ZH
by Steven Glogger 09 Mar '15

09 Mar '15

Dear SwiNOGers, Another Beer Event ,-)) Details for the next event: ----------------------------------------------- Event: SwiNOG-BE141 - Beer Event 141 When? Monday, 9th March 2015 18:30 Where? Helvti Diner Kasernenstrasse 2, 8004 Zürich http://www.helvti-diner.ch/ (GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/SHoVd) ----------------------------------------------- Registration: Start: Monday, 9th March 2015 - 10:55 Stop: Monday, 9th March 2015 - 17:00 Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/ ----------------------------------------------- Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not. If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 277 92 35). greetings -steven

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multi homed at home
by lothar＠gramelspacher.com 07 Mar '15

07 Mar '15

Hi swinog, I have a small irrelevant (maybe naiv) nerd question: For a little while I do have two internet connections at home (upc & fiber7) and would like to use both in parallel and learn. What is the smartes way to populate my routing table to choose the best route to various endpoints in the internet. My mikrotik router seems to have various features to play with. I do nat have a AS numer... Can BGP be used read only to get prefixes? Any hints to how to set this up, useful tutorials or whatsoever are appreciated. Thanks for your help. Lothar

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[IEVS] Erlebe 3D Virtual Reality mittels dem DIY CardBoard VR Headset von Google und dem Oculus Rift DK 2 VR
by LinuXperia 05 Mar '15

05 Mar '15

Hallo. Für die welche Interesse an 3D Virtual Reality haben schicke ich anbei die Event Infos für die Virtual Reality Veranstaltung im FabLab Bern. Organisation: HackLab, Romeo Webseite: http://www.ievs.ch/events/eventpoll.php?id=32&page=event-32 Ort: FabLab Bern, Eigerstrasse 12, 3007 Bern Datum: Mittwoch, 11. März, 2015 Zeit: Von 17.15 Uhr bis 22.00 Uhr Gleitend An dem Treffen werden mindestens 2 DIY Virtual Reality Google Cardboard Headsets verfügbar sein. Ebenfalls wird mit grosser Wahrscheinlichkeit das Oculus Rift Dev Kit 2 3D Virtual Reality Headset vor Ort vorhanden sein sofern bei der Lieferung keine schwerwiegende Probleme noch auftauchen. Damit können Besucher an dem Treffen tief in neue 3D virtuelle Welten eintauchen und Virtual Reality wie noch nie ohne Kosten erleben. Bringe dein eigenes Android oder iPhone Handy sowie Spiel Konsolen oder Gamer PCs mit Vorinstallierten 3D Apps oder 3D Games am Treffen mit und erlebe mit den Vorhanden Virtual Reality Headsets neue atemberaubende Welten zusammen in einer lustigen Gruppe von Virtual Reality Enthusiasten. An den nachfolgenden HackLab Treffen im April werden die HackLab Mitglieder die Möglichkeit haben mittels dem verfügbaren Thunder Laser Cutter im FabLab eigene Virtual Reality CardBoard HeadSet zu bauen bzw. sich sogar eins mittels 3D Drucker auszudrucken. Der FabLab Raum wird für jeden gratis von 17.15 Uhr bis 22.00 Uhr am Mittwoch den 11. März 2015 offen sein. Video mit mehr Informationen über das Google DIY Virtual Reality Headset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQVHmfXnol0 Voranmeldungen können auf der HackLab Webseite ohne Registrierung gemacht werden: http://www.ievs.ch/events/eventpoll.php?id=32&page=event-32 Danke für die Kenntnisnahme. Man sieht sich am 3D Virtual Reality Treff. Freundliche Grüsse Romeo

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Legal: Email Dienstleistung: Kunden im Ausland?
by Benoit Panizzon 03 Mar '15

03 Mar '15

Hallo zusammen Wir bieten einen Email Hosting Service für Kunden und andere Provider an. Wir haben nun einen potentiellen Interessenten im Ausland. Einen ISP. Nun stellt sich die Frage, nach welchem Recht wir den Service erbringen müssen. Gilt, weil der Service in der Schweiz erbracht und die Mailboxen auf Storage in der Schweiz liegen, Schweizer Recht? Oder gilt, da der ISP sozusagen Reseller unserer Dienstleistungen ist, was Legal Intercept, Überwachung und Anforderung an Logging betrifft, das Recht im Land des ISP der unsere Leistung unter seinem 'Markennamen' verkauft? Was also heissen müsste, dass wir unser System möglicherweise entsprechend anpassen und entsprechende Schnittstellen für die Überwachung aus einem Drittstaat anbieten müssten? Gruss Benoit Panizzon -- I m p r o W a r e A G - ______________________________________________________ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 07 CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 02 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch ______________________________________________________

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