well, i think RSS is quite a standard and there are possibilities to
provide the swinog mailinglist also as RSS feed..
but anyway, a forum/blog is the wrong way... mail should be still the
way of communication for swinog members ,-)
-steven
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch
> [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Xaver Aerni
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM
> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
>
> think to install an RSS Client is in different offices is a
> Problem. If we make a change is a Forum (or new called Blogg)
> the beter idea. But you must check what is in the future the
> best way. I think some people uesing Handshields or Mobiles
> for reading the list...
> I don't konw if in future are RSS Reader avable for this products.
>
> Greetings
> Xaver
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tonnerre LOMBARD" <tonnerre(a)bsdprojects.net>
> To: "Glogger Steven" <S.Glogger(a)cybernet.ch>
> Cc: <swinog(a)swinog.ch>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
>
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > swinog mailing list
> > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch
> > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> swinog mailing list
> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch
> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
>
hi ruedi
> What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed?
> Good/bad idea?
bad.
how do you answer to posts? ,-)
for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if you
want to have read only access, it may be an alternative... so you still
need the mails ;-)
> I personally would very much favour this approach for the following
> reasons:
> - My inbox remains emptier/smaller
<ironic> yes, you're right, we've got about 654'465'108 mails a year on
this mailinglist ;-) makes sense ,-) </ironic>
> - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list
well, as i said: mail will remain, so auto reply's will remain ...
> - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth.
i dont know, but i think bandwidth is not really a problem with that
mailinglist, right? we're not (yet) at nanog's size ,)
> So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for
> example, recommends this software on the server side:
> http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt
i think you're gladly invited to provide an RSS feed for those people
which cannot live without it ;-)
cheers
-steven
> Whom does the RSS feed serve the most? Surely not the active
> part of the SwiNOG-Community. Those guys can just as well
> read the mails and answer to random topics they feel the need to.
ack.
> RSS does not give you that possibility, you're readonly. A
> perfect excuse to just consume and give nothing back
> (information that is). I don't like that idea.
full ack.
> Mail is as easy and flexible that it's even readable on a
> cell phone or an old-fart PDA. Just because some of you have
> a shiny new Ogo or Mulberry (whatchamacallit?) does not mean
> everyone wants to replace his Palm IIIx now.
another ack.
> Finally, HTML-Mails with Flash and JavaScript do go the same
> way, so don't even think about coming up with THAT!
final ack.
-steven
Steven, you're my hero!
/ruedi
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch
> [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Glogger Steven
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 11:22
> An: swinog(a)swinog.ch
> Betreff: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
>
> so, something like http://www.mrmouse.ch/swinog-rss/ ? ,-)
>
> -steven
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch
> > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Hofer Ruedi
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:56 AM
> > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch
> > Subject: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed?
> > Good/bad idea?
> >
> > I personally would very much favour this approach for the following
> > reasons:
> > - My inbox remains emptier/smaller
> > - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list
> > - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth.
> >
> > RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means,
> > users have the necessary tools already installed!
> >
> > So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for
> > example, recommends this software on the server side:
> > http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt
> >
> > Cheerio
> > Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > swinog mailing list
> > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch
> > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
> >
> _______________________________________________
> swinog mailing list
> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch
> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
>
so, something like http://www.mrmouse.ch/swinog-rss/ ? ,-)
-steven
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch
> [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Hofer Ruedi
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:56 AM
> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch
> Subject: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
>
>
> Hi all
>
> What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed?
> Good/bad idea?
>
> I personally would very much favour this approach for the following
> reasons:
> - My inbox remains emptier/smaller
> - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list
> - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth.
>
> RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means,
> users have the necessary tools already installed!
>
> So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for
> example, recommends this software on the server side:
> http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt
>
> Cheerio
> Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne
>
> _______________________________________________
> swinog mailing list
> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch
> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
>
> what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-)
> We could call it "swinog 2.0"... Then we would have rss as
> wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha
> protection, etc.
by an blog? are you insane!?
well...at least we have a well-trained blog-chief aka rapido :)
but we could also try to set up an own IPTV stream and each of us can
...
... ok, lets foget about that :)
but some mailclients support also filtering and rules.. maybe this is
also a solution for ruedi :)
-steven
sounds very complicating...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch
> [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Olivier Mueller
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:44 AM
> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch
> Subject: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
>
> 'morning Steven & list,
>
> On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 09:17 +0200, Glogger Steven wrote:
> > how do you answer to posts? ,-)
> > for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if
> > you want to have read only access, it may be an
> alternative... so you
> > still need the mails ;-)
>
> what about simply replacing the mailing list by a blog? ;-)
> We could call it "swinog 2.0"... Then we would have rss as
> wished by Ruedi, anti-spam and anti-autoresponder captcha
> protection, etc.
>
> But it would require moderators for the news topics...
>
> Have a nice (!= cold & rainy) day :)
> Olivier
>
> _______________________________________________
> swinog mailing list
> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch
> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
>
Hi all
What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? Good/bad
idea?
I personally would very much favour this approach for the following
reasons:
- My inbox remains emptier/smaller
- No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list
- Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth.
RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means, users have
the necessary tools already installed!
So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for example,
recommends this software on the server side:
http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt
Cheerio
Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne
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