Dear SwiNOG Colleagues,
We have updated JANOG (Japan Network Operators' Group) English wiki page.
Recent additions include presentation titles and abstracts for the
JANOG22 meeting, which was held July 2008.
You can view the contents via the link below.
http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/index.php?JANOG22%20Programs
For us to bring better content, your comments and feedbacks are greatly
appreciated.
Regards,
Masaru AKAI, for JANOG i18n Team
> From: Andre Timmermann <andre.timmermann(a)nine.ch>
> Am Mittwoch, den 08.10.2008, 03:55 -0700 schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin:
> > yes, Venty, everyone wants to know what you talk about in your
> > private communications.
>
> Yihaaa, the *****ng "I don't have anything to hide"-statement.
nope, it's the other thing: If I need to hide something, I use the right tools :)
so, if I go once and buy 1000 paper knives, I will not pay by my plastic card
and won't use any Supercard or Cumulus :-)
--- roger(a)mgz.ch wrote:
at least it prooved the ML is still alive, and not so slow as some mentioned ;-)
we got 3 days nanog feeling, who cares ?
if someone like an idling list.. we maybe could create idle(a)swinog.ch, and
to make shure there is no accidentaly traffic setting this list to moderated
this would be even helpfull for all the autoresponder fan's
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I enjoyed reading it all. It put a smile on my face several times.
One day, I want to do a beer event with you guys, but since it's 12,277 kilometers (7628 miles) there:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distanceresult.html?p1=103&p2=268
It'll probably be a very long time until that happens... ;-)
scott
irc.swinog.ch is not reachable via bluewin
irc.subcult.ch telling me after connect checking ident .. found your hostname
.. and then stays like that
whats happen ?
Roger
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG?
I think more people on this list have skype than IRC
client software (me, for example :-)
----- Original Message ----
> From: Boris Meyer <boris(a)imp.ch>
> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch
> Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:51:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
>
>
> PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at:
> http://irc.subcult.ch
> > As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX
> > is at the moment only reachable by its peers.
> >
> > We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the
> > mean time eiher use another server of the mesh or have a
> > SwissIX-connected ISP ;).
> >
> >
>
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yes, Venty, everyone wants to know what you talk about in your
private communications.
don't be silly, just use it as any other public communication platform,
be it Gmail or internet forums. If you need to transport sensitive data, use
secure channels for it. If you need to communicate to few hundred of your contacts,
there's not much alternative, because most of them use skype anyway.
----- Original Message ----
> From: Martin Ebnoether <ventilator(a)semmel.ch>
> > > Skype is like MSN Messenger, just another ugly overloaded communication
> > > tool. if I have to choose between skype and MSN, it's MSN, because there
> > > are a lot of opensource and freeware alternatives to the bad Live
> > > Messenger from Microschrott, ah Microsoft... :-)
> >
> > Well, it might be ugly, but at least it works in almost every situation.
>
> If it would not, they could not sniff into other peoples private
> communications.
I'm very much involved in the scene of goumoens-la-ville (doing theatre) and
I must admit I don't write enough patches.The first real pride of mine in
this area was fixing, well, not really, almost beeing able to fix a bug
in... the linux kernel (waouw, tremendous!).
it was about a kernel lockup when booting on some hardware.
I've spent one night a one day investing, adding printk, recompiling,
rebooting, pressing the reset button.
it was in the keyboard driver (rocket science, the keyboard driver).
Almost came with a patch (after some guidance from some genuinely nice folks
on the LK mailing-list) to notice that
when connecting both the mouse and the keyboard, not just the keyboard, the
problem was solved (ohhh shit almost became famous).
I threw away my patch, plugged the mouse, swallowed my pride, and, well,
life is not too bad like this either.
> On the Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:26:37AM -0700, Stanislav Sinyagin blubbered:
>
> Hi.
>
> > going to compile anything on my desktop anyway. And if it collects any marketing
> > stats, so what, everyone is doing that, and we're helping them (Coop Supercard
> > for example). There's nothing bad about companies knowing better what I might
> > buy from them :-)
well would be not surprised when in a DB scan they recognizing you as
single buying so much .. they think your making business with it, and
noticing the tax department.
or like a neighbour .. he got sued to throw liter in ilegal bags .. because they
verifyed the list of items he was buying .. found a receipt with his name ..
and they got him .. but as the letter arrived he was just back from holiday,
and all the items where still in his house
but they didnt accept that
> Well...
> Actually, the Supercard (and the Cumulus as well) are quite easy
> to "exploit" and throw a monkey wrench up Coops and Migros
> database.
>
> I have both cards but I share them with my parents. That is one
> thing, one can do, share the card.
>
> Then, I don't have the card with me all of the time. (In fact I
> do have them with me, but oh well...). In that case, if the
> grandma before or after me has a card, I just ask her if she
> wants my Cumulus points on her account. Sure they do, classical
> win-win situation. She is happy, Migros database is confused
> (what does the 90 year old lady buys beer, CD-Rs and condoms
> for?) and the clerk won't mind anyway.
>
> This also works the other way. If someone at the checkout does
> not have a card, why not ask them, if you can have their points
> on your account? Just ask nicely, most people without a card
> won't mind. Another win-win situation here.
>
> For your listening pleasure, download the Privacy song:
> http://three-dead-trolls-in-a-baggie-the-privac-mp3-download.kohit.net/_/61…
>
> CU, Venty
>
> --
> What we're planning here is World Domination!
>
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--- Ende der weitergeleiteten Nachricht / End of forwarded message ---
> From: Martin Ebnoether <ventilator(a)semmel.ch>
> All that is needed to take Skype down is an automatic windows
> update of some thousand computers.
>
> Remember last summer?
> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070819
hey Venty, long time no see :)
if you remember, back in 2003-2004 there were viruses which knocked down hundreds
of thousands of windows PCs. So what, we're still using that :)
If the tool serves my needs, I don't really care if it's open source - I'm not
going to compile anything on my desktop anyway. And if it collects any marketing
stats, so what, everyone is doing that, and we're helping them (Coop Supercard
for example). There's nothing bad about companies knowing better what I might
buy from them :-)
