You're right !
I didn't talk about this side of the problem.
I just spoke about blocking web access from ISP customers to an external website.
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De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Rene Luria
Envoyé : jeudi, 14. juillet 2005 16:10
À : swinog(a)swinog.ch
Objet : Re: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
On Thursday 14 July 2005 15.56, Olivier Graf wrote:
> I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP
> access... Nobody block a website because of spamming.
If a client of yours abuse of one of the services you provide him, it can be legitimate to prevent him from using any of them.
When the resources sold are web space and email, spaming may be a reason to block web access too, not only smtp.
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Hi there,
I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP access...
Nobody block a website because of spamming.
Cheers
Olivier
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De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Ladu, Daniele
Envoyé : jeudi, 14. juillet 2005 15:39
À : swinog(a)swinog.ch
Objet : [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
Perhaps this message didn't arrive to the list, i try it one more time....
-----Original Message-----
From: Ladu, Daniele
Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 08:50
To: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch'
Subject: Blocking request of a homepage
Importance: High
Hello dear SWINOG members
I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 Email Adresses with double opt in and out.
On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my friend and his spaming activity.
The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As i know, sunrise has never blocked
the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a "private hate" against my friend.
Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this Homepage, and if yes, how can we find
out what the reason of the blocking is.
Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint without having the related Mailheader
of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in question was sent out on May. But my friend
has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning of june.
Thanks you for your help and feedbacks.
Sincerly,
Daniele Ladu
Senior Technical Support Operator
Sunrise
TDC Switzerland AG
Abuse Team
Thurgauerstrasse 60
8050 Zürich
Tel. +41 1 300 53 61
Fax +41 58 777 97 07
Mail daniele.ladu(a)sunrise.net
Mail abuse(a)sunrise.net
Internet www.sunrise.ch
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Perhaps this message didn't arrive to the list, i try it one more time....
-----Original Message-----
From: Ladu, Daniele
Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 08:50
To: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch'
Subject: Blocking request of a homepage
Importance: High
Hello dear SWINOG members
I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 Email Adresses with double opt in and out.
On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my friend and his spaming activity.
The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As i know, sunrise has never blocked
the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a "private hate" against my friend.
Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this Homepage, and if yes, how can we find
out what the reason of the blocking is.
Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint without having the related Mailheader
of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in question was sent out on May. But my friend
has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning of june.
Thanks you for your help and feedbacks.
Sincerly,
Daniele Ladu
Senior Technical Support Operator
Sunrise
TDC Switzerland AG
Abuse Team
Thurgauerstrasse 60
8050 Zürich
Tel. +41 1 300 53 61
Fax +41 58 777 97 07
Mail daniele.ladu(a)sunrise.net
Mail abuse(a)sunrise.net
Internet www.sunrise.ch
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Hello dear SWINOG members
I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 Email Adresses with double opt in and out.
On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my friend and his spaming activity.
The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As i know, sunrise has never blocked
the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a "private hate" against my friend.
Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this Homepage, and if yes, how can we find
out what the reason of the blocking is.
Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint without having the related Mailheader
of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in question was sent out on May. But my friend
has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning of june.
Thanks you for your help and feedbacks.
Sincerly,
Daniele Ladu
Senior Technical Support Operator
Sunrise
TDC Switzerland AG
Abuse Team
Thurgauerstrasse 60
8050 Zürich
Tel. +41 1 300 53 61
Fax +41 58 777 97 07
Mail daniele.ladu(a)sunrise.net
Mail abuse(a)sunrise.net
Internet www.sunrise.ch
***************************************************************************************
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solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed.
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hi marco
unfortunately i'm not able to make it, but enjoy the tour.
and next time watch out your reply: this was a post from a mailinglist ,-)
cheers
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch
> [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Marco Stieger
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Juli 2005 11:34
> An: swinog(a)swinog.ch
> Betreff: Re: [swinog] [job] Infonet CH open position at help
> desk in Bern
>
> Hallo Felix,
>
> Danke für den Link :-)
>
> Ich geh wahrscheinlich in der KW-34 auf eine Velo-Tour. Von
> Appenzell bis in die Westschweiz.
>
> Bist du dabei?
>
>
> Grüässli Marco
>
> Felix Curinga wrote:
> > See the job description (German..)
> >
> > http://www.infonet-switzerland.ch/contact/careers/job27.asp
> >
> > --félix
> >
> >
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