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-----Original Message----- From: Ladu, Daniele Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 08:50 To: 'swinog@swinog.ch' Subject: Blocking request of a homepage Importance: High
Hello dear SWINOG members
I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 Email Adresses with double opt in and out. On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my friend and his spaming activity.
The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As i know, sunrise has never blocked the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a "private hate" against my friend.
Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this Homepage, and if yes, how can we find out what the reason of the blocking is.
Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint without having the related Mailheader of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in question was sent out on May. But my friend has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning of june.
Thanks you for your help and feedbacks.
Sincerly,
Daniele Ladu Senior Technical Support Operator
Sunrise TDC Switzerland AG Abuse Team Thurgauerstrasse 60 8050 Zürich Tel. +41 1 300 53 61 Fax +41 58 777 97 07 Mail daniele.ladu@sunrise.net Mail abuse@sunrise.net Internet www.sunrise.ch *************************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify it to the sender.
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As you might or might not know, most ISPs are strongly agains blocking websites and will only do so, if ordered by court. AFAIK it only happened once until now, by a judge in Vaud (we all remember the trouble this caused).
The problem with blocking pages is, that it doesn't work and/or scale. If you take the domain out of the DNS, the customer can simply use another DNS server. If you want to block it on some sort of Firewall/Filterlist, you have to administer that by hand, which ISPs generally don't like to do.
So my guess is, that nobody blocks that site. When it comes to SMTP, that's a different story...
Cheers, Viktor
Zitat von "Ladu, Daniele" daniele.ladu@sunrise.net:
Perhaps this message didn't arrive to the list, i try it one more time....
-----Original Message----- From: Ladu, Daniele Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 08:50 To: 'swinog@swinog.ch' Subject: Blocking request of a homepage Importance: High
Hello dear SWINOG members
I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 Email Adresses with double opt in and out. On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my friend and his spaming activity.
The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As i know, sunrise has never blocked the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a "private hate" against my friend.
Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this Homepage, and if yes, how can we find out what the reason of the blocking is.
Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint without having the related Mailheader of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in question was sent out on May. But my friend has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning of june.
Thanks you for your help and feedbacks.
Sincerly,
Daniele Ladu Senior Technical Support Operator
Sunrise TDC Switzerland AG Abuse Team Thurgauerstrasse 60 8050 Zürich Tel. +41 1 300 53 61 Fax +41 58 777 97 07 Mail daniele.ladu@sunrise.net Mail abuse@sunrise.net Internet www.sunrise.ch
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This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify it to the sender.
Cet email ainsi que tous les fichiers qui lui sont attaches sont confidentiels et reserves a l'usage exclusif des personnes auxquelles ils sont adresses. Si vous avez recu cet email par erreur, veuillez avoir l'obligeance d'en informer son emetteur.
Dieses email sowie alle damit verbundenen Dateien sind vertraulich und nur fuer diejenigen Personen bestimmt, an die es adressiert ist. Wenn Sie dieses email irrtuemlicherweise erhalten haben, bitten wir Sie, den Absender zu informieren.
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