FYI, we've received such a message...
-steven
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Von: "Wittmann Armin" awittmann@ethz.ch Betreff: AccessPolicy to swisstime.ethz.ch changed to ClosedAccess Datum: 11. Dezember 2012 09:01:06 MEZ An: ID.NET.Hostmaster hostmaster@ethz.ch
Dear Hostmaster, dear network responsible
You are receiving this notification because devices in your network are using the ntp-Service of swisstime.ethz.ch and you are among the most frequent users (several 10 MB data per day). The usage of swisstime.ethz.ch has been increasing constantly over the years and has reached a state that would require additional specialized hardware to support the millions of sessions. The board of ICT-Services of ETH Zürich decided not to spend this money for new devices but to block the access to the server in the near future.
For this reason the Access Policy of swisstime.ethz.ch has been changed to "Closed Access" http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/SwisstimeEthzCh and you are kindly requested to use other ntp-Services provided by the internet for free - we recommend using the public ntp-Pool http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/
We intend to block the access to swisstime.ethz.ch in June 2013.
Do not hesitate to contact me for further questions. Kind regards Armin Wittmann
Dr. Armin Wittmann ETH Zürich - Informatikdienste - ICT-Networks Division Head Weinbergstrasse 43 - WET B3 CH-8092 Zürich - Switzerland Tel.: +41 44 632 50 15 Fax: +41 44 632 11 66 E-Mail: awittmann@ethz.ch
Hello Swinog,
I've just talked to Armin, who is not on the list. swisstime has, in the last 20 years, become the single most used service at ETH. To keep up with the current growth ETH would have to invest substantial funds into the needed infrastructure. 20 years ago swisstime was a pioneering service. Today ntp services are available from other high quality servers and so it was decided to stop this ETH service for the public.
Cheers Serge
On 11.12.12 09:35 , Steven Glogger wrote:
FYI, we've received such a message...
-steven
Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
*Von: *"Wittmann Armin" <awittmann@ethz.ch mailto:awittmann@ethz.ch> *Betreff: **AccessPolicy to swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch changed to ClosedAccess* *Datum: *11. Dezember 2012 09:01:06 MEZ *An: *ID.NET.Hostmaster <hostmaster@ethz.ch mailto:hostmaster@ethz.ch>
Dear Hostmaster, dear network responsible
You are receiving this notification because devices in your network are using the ntp-Service of swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch and you are among the most frequent users (several 10 MB data per day). The usage of swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch has been increasing constantly over the years and has reached a state that would require additional specialized hardware to support the millions of sessions. The board of ICT-Services of ETH Zürich decided not to spend this money for new devices but to block the access to the server in the near future.
For this reason the Access Policy of swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch has been changed to "Closed Access" http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/SwisstimeEthzCh and you are kindly requested to use other ntp-Services provided by the internet for free - we recommend using the public ntp-Pool http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/
We intend to block the access to swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch in June 2013.
Do not hesitate to contact me for further questions. Kind regards Armin Wittmann
Dr. Armin Wittmann ETH Zürich - Informatikdienste - ICT-Networks Division Head Weinbergstrasse 43 - WET B3 CH-8092 Zürich - Switzerland Tel.: +41 44 632 50 15 Fax: +41 44 632 11 66 E-Mail: awittmann@ethz.ch mailto:awittmann@ethz.ch
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Hi Serge
the service was very valuable over the last few years - or better: since the beginning of the swiss internet. like you said: pioneering. kind of a 'phaseout' of a well known, superbe service :) but yes, there are other ressources (e.g. pool.ntp.org).
but I would like to thank also ETH for their service over the last years.
greetings
-steven
Am 11.12.2012 um 11:22 schrieb Serge Droz serge.droz@switch.ch:
Hello Swinog,
I've just talked to Armin, who is not on the list. swisstime has, in the last 20 years, become the single most used service at ETH. To keep up with the current growth ETH would have to invest substantial funds into the needed infrastructure. 20 years ago swisstime was a pioneering service. Today ntp services are available from other high quality servers and so it was decided to stop this ETH service for the public.
Cheers Serge
On 11.12.12 09:35 , Steven Glogger wrote:
FYI, we've received such a message...
-steven
Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
*Von: *"Wittmann Armin" <awittmann@ethz.ch mailto:awittmann@ethz.ch> *Betreff: **AccessPolicy to swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch changed to ClosedAccess* *Datum: *11. Dezember 2012 09:01:06 MEZ *An: *ID.NET.Hostmaster <hostmaster@ethz.ch mailto:hostmaster@ethz.ch>
Dear Hostmaster, dear network responsible
You are receiving this notification because devices in your network are using the ntp-Service of swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch and you are among the most frequent users (several 10 MB data per day). The usage of swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch has been increasing constantly over the years and has reached a state that would require additional specialized hardware to support the millions of sessions. The board of ICT-Services of ETH Zürich decided not to spend this money for new devices but to block the access to the server in the near future.
For this reason the Access Policy of swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch has been changed to "Closed Access" http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/SwisstimeEthzCh and you are kindly requested to use other ntp-Services provided by the internet for free - we recommend using the public ntp-Pool http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/
We intend to block the access to swisstime.ethz.ch http://swisstime.ethz.ch in June 2013.
Do not hesitate to contact me for further questions. Kind regards Armin Wittmann
Dr. Armin Wittmann ETH Zürich - Informatikdienste - ICT-Networks Division Head Weinbergstrasse 43 - WET B3 CH-8092 Zürich - Switzerland Tel.: +41 44 632 50 15 Fax: +41 44 632 11 66 E-Mail: awittmann@ethz.ch mailto:awittmann@ethz.ch
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 09:35:05AM +0100, Steven Glogger wrote:
FYI, we've received such a message...
Hmm, isn't swisstime one of the required ntp time sources for the lawful interception implementation?
Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
Von: "Wittmann Armin" awittmann@ethz.ch Betreff: AccessPolicy to swisstime.ethz.ch changed to ClosedAccess Datum: 11. Dezember 2012 09:01:06 MEZ An: ID.NET.Hostmaster hostmaster@ethz.ch
Dear Hostmaster, dear network responsible
You are receiving this notification because devices in your network are using the ntp-Service of swisstime.ethz.ch and you are among the most frequent users (several 10 MB data per day). The usage of swisstime.ethz.ch has been increasing constantly over the years and has reached a state that would require additional specialized hardware to support the millions of sessions. The board of ICT-Services of ETH Zürich decided not to spend this money for new devices but to block the access to the server in the near future.
For this reason the Access Policy of swisstime.ethz.ch has been changed to "Closed Access" http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/SwisstimeEthzCh and you are kindly requested to use other ntp-Services provided by the internet for free - we recommend using the public ntp-Pool http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/
We intend to block the access to swisstime.ethz.ch in June 2013.
Do not hesitate to contact me for further questions. Kind regards Armin Wittmann
Dr. Armin Wittmann ETH Zürich - Informatikdienste - ICT-Networks Division Head Weinbergstrasse 43 - WET B3 CH-8092 Zürich - Switzerland Tel.: +41 44 632 50 15 Fax: +41 44 632 11 66 E-Mail: awittmann@ethz.ch
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Hi Claudio
Hmm, isn't swisstime one of the required ntp time sources for the lawful interception implementation?
Do you refer to: http://mathgen.ch/crypto/ch-ilets-regs2.pdf (interesting to find this in the net with a confitential stamp on it)?
I think this is superseded by
http://www.ejpd.admin.ch/content/dam/data/sicherheit/uepf/richtlinien/tr-ts-...
which specifies ntp.metas.ch
Cheers Serge
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