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Project of cooperation between Swiss ISPs
by Gregory Agerba 23 Oct '13

23 Oct '13

Dear SwiNOGers, This is a short message targeting small and medium Swiss-based Internet Service Providers. A few days ago I started reaching out a few ISPs, mostly in the region of Zurich/Zug/Bern/Basel, to discuss the possibility of a smart collaboration in a “cooperative” and “constructive” way. I actually wanted to check out if there was any enthusiasm on the idea of building together a network to reach major European Internet Exchange, buy Transit in bulk, peer with larger networks and setup a larger DDoS mitigation service. The idea came when I saw that many smaller ISPs deploy the same type of network, seeking the same advantages and struggle to deploy a wider reach outside Switzerland due mostly to a lack of available manpower or financial backing. Amongst a more human collaboration between tenants, various cross-business opportunities, the idea is to collaborate on: - Establishing a privileged network of trusted companies and people - Enhancing IP Transit Connectivity quality and costs by playing on larger value scales - Enhancing IP Peering Connectivity by reaching various European IXs over the same infrastructure - Enhancing campus-interconnection in Zurich by lowering costs for inter-DC connectivity in Zurich (DWDM/DF) by sharing the same infrastructure - Build and share a larger DDoS mitigation platform These challenges are part of day-to-day hassles that every ISPs companies have to deal. Scepticism of a working business-model has been highlighted by various interested parties. Other topics such as IP Transit rates erosion costs vs. high transport costs and port-fees have been thoroughly considered too. Therefore, for Swiss ISPs who are interested and willing to take a look, we’d like to invite you to join our discussion board – www.swissnog.ch – please keep in mind that this is in no means a board affiliated with SwiNOG and that if you want to debate about it you are most welcome to join rather than reply here. We look forward to seeing you there! -- Gregory

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Zattoo
by Xaver Aerni 22 Oct '13

22 Oct '13

Hello Cold somebody from Zattoo me connect offline. Thanks a lot Greetings Xaver

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T-Mobile US can not reach us any idea? contact?
by Marco Fretz 18 Oct '13

18 Oct '13

Hi everyone, I know there is possibly no one around here from T-Mobile US. Maybe someone has a contact to T-Mobile US that can possibly have a look into this? I've tried some official e-mail address from whois information months ago but no response. We are AS198288 and our prefix 5.34.248.0/21 has only limited reachability from / to T-Mobile US (mobile / hotspots users and t-mobile website / e-mail). It's no routing issue I guess as traceroutes / ping work. I was in the US a week ago and also had a T-Mobile 4G contract phone. Same issue, ICMP works, TCP / UDP gets blocked to 5.34.248.0/21. I actually think there are some legacy filters in place, maybe they used 5.0.0.0/8 as "private addresses" in the past. Anyone with an idea or a contact to T-Mobile welcome. Thank you very much. best regards Marco

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Looking for a fanless server
by Stanislav Sinyagin 17 Oct '13

17 Oct '13

hi, I'm looking for a Swiss supplier that would offer fanless server appliances, as follows: * 19" rack mount, 1RU high * Fanless design (no moving parts), ability to operate in a normal room environment (25C or so) * Modern CPU, like Core i5 or i7, or some latest-generation ARM, or maybe even MIPS architecture of comparable performance * Graphical performance is non-important, a standard VGA is fine, serial or USB console is even better * Two SSD hard drives. Probably a RAID controller, but also fine without it * Support for 2 or more GB RAM * Two or more 10/100/1000 Ethernet ports * Linux support for all hardware components * 1-2 years warranty, replacement within a week by post. This is a one-off, low-volume request, 1 or 2 devices for the start, and maybe 3-5 devices within a year or two. Quotations will be welcome at ssinyagin(a)k-open.com thanks, stan

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Google IPv6, wrong Geolocation?
by Benoit Panizzon 07 Oct '13

07 Oct '13

Hello Some of our customers (mainly our office 2001:4060:1::/48) are being redirected to www.google.nl since a couple of days when connected via IPv6. Anyone an idea what GeoIP source Google is using and how to tell Google to fix the location? Yes, our network is correctly RIPEd under country: CH Mit freundlichen Grüssen Benoit Panizzon -- I m p r o W a r e A G - ______________________________________________________ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 07 CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 02 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch ______________________________________________________

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SwiNOG-BE125 - Beer Event 125 @ Outback Lodge / ZH
by Steven Glogger 05 Oct '13

05 Oct '13

Dear SwiNOGers, Lets enjoy some good food and beer at the Outback. Details for the next event: ----------------------------------------------- Event: SwiNOG-BE125 - Beer Event 125 When? Monday, 7th October 2013 18:30 Where? Outback Lodge Stadelhoferstrasse 18, 8001 Zürich  http://www.outback-lodge.ch/outback-lodge-z%C3%BCrich.html (GoogleMaps Link: http://goo.gl/maps/fGTpM) !! Please sign up if you're really coming - because the seats are limited! !! ----------------------------------------------- Registration: Start: Saturday, 5th October 2013 - 19:20 Stop: Monday, 7th October 2013 - 13:00 Reg-URL: http://swinog.be/ ----------------------------------------------- Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not. If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (+41 79 277 92 35). greetings -steven

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Swisscom setzt Einführung des Filters für den Mailverkehr via Port25 fort
by Security Swisscom Schweiz 04 Oct '13

04 Oct '13

Texte français en bas - Testo italiano al sotto - Text in english below -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guten Tag, Mehr als 10 Millionen Spam-Mails werden täglich über das Swisscom Netz verschickt. Daher hat Swisscom vor drei Jahren begonnen, einen neuen Filter für den Mailverkehr ihrer DSL-Privatkunden einzusetzen. Swisscom setzt dessen Implementierung ab Juni dieses Jahres schrittweise fort um das Spam-Aufkommen weiter einzudämmen. Mit dem Abschluss der Einführung wird bis voraussichtlich März 2014 gerechnet. Swisscom geht davon aus, dass rund 98 Prozent aller Kunden nichts von der Umstellung bemerken werden. Einzig Swisscom Privatkunden, die für ihre ausgehenden E-Mails den Server eines anderen Anbieters verwenden und dabei die SMTP-Authentifizierung auf dem Port 25 nutzen, müssen neu ihre E-Mail-Einstellungen beim Postausgangsserver (SMTP) von Port 25 auf den dafür vorgesehenen Port 587 ändern. Betroffene Kunden werden mittels einer Fehlermeldung darauf hingewiesen und auf eine Hilfeseite von Swisscom geleitet, sodass sie die nötigen Einstellungen eigenhändig vornehmen können. Es ist jedoch nicht auszuschliessen, dass einzelne Kunden persönlichen Support bevorzugen und sich deshalb an den Anbieter ihres E-Mailkontos wenden. Diesen Kunden kann für Hilfeleistungen die folgende Swisscom Seite empfohlen werden: http://www.swisscom.ch/p25/. Viele Grüsse, Security Swisscom Schweiz Abuse & Security Operations -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swisscom poursuit l'introduction du filtre pour l'échange d'e-mails sur le port 25 Bonjour, Plus de 10 millions de spams sont envoyés tous les jours sur le réseau de Swisscom. Il y a trois ans, Swisscom a donc commencé à utiliser un nouveau filtre pour l'échange d'e-mails de ses clients privés DSL. Swisscom poursuit à partir du juin 2013 progressivement ce déploiement afin d'endiguer le spam. Nous prévoyons qu'il sera terminé d'ici à mars 2014. Swisscom pense qu'environ 98% des clients ne remarqueront pas le changement. Seuls les clients privés de Swisscom qui utilisent le serveur d'un autre fournisseur pour envoyer leur e-mails et appliquent l'authentification SMTP sur le port 25 doivent modifier les paramètres du serveur de courrier sortant (SMTP) de leur compte de messagerie : ils doivent passer le numéro du port de 25 à 587, le port prévu. Un message d'erreur avertit les clients et ils sont dirigés sur une page d'aide de Swisscom afin qu'ils puissent modifier les paramètres eux-mêmes. Il n'est toutefois pas exclu que certains clients préfèrent une aide personnelle, auquel cas il faut qu'ils s'adressent au fournisseur de leur compte de messagerie. Il est possible de leur conseiller la page Swisscom suivante qui peut les aider: http://www.swisscom.ch/p25/. Meilleures salutations, Security Swisscom Suisse Abuse & Security Operations -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swisscom prosegue l’introduzione del filtro per il traffico e-mail tramite il port 25 Bongiorno, Ogni giorno, più di 10 milioni di e-mail spam vengono inviate sulla rete Swisscom. Per questo motivo, tre anni fa Swisscom ha iniziato a impiegare un nuovo filtro per il traffico e-mail dei suoi clienti privati DSL. Dal giugno 2013, Swisscom porta avanti gradualmente l’implementazione del filtro per ridurre ulteriormente la presenza di spam. Si prevede che l’introduzione avrà termine entro marzo 2014. Swisscom ritiene che circa il 98% di tutti i clienti non si accorgerà del passaggio. Solo i clienti privati Swisscom, che utilizzano il server di un altro operatore per le e-mail in uscita e fanno ricorso all’autenticazione SMTP sul port 25, dovranno d’ora in poi modificare le impostazioni dell’e-mail nel server di posta in uscita (SMTP) passando dal port 25 al port 587 appositamente previsto. I clienti interessanti verranno informati a riguardo tramite un messaggio di errore e verranno indirizzati a una pagina di supporto di Swisscom, in modo da poter inserire personalmente le impostazioni necessarie. Tuttavia, non si esclude che alcuni clienti preferiscano il supporto personale e si rivolgano, quindi, all’operatore del proprio account di posta elettronica. Per i servizi di supporto è possibile consigliare a questi clienti la seguente pagina Swisscom: http://www.swisscom.ch/p25/. Distinti saluti, Security Swisscom Svizzera Abuse & Security Operations -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swisscom continues implementation of the filter for mail service via Port25 Good afternoon, More than 10 million spam mails a day are sent over the Swisscom network. Three years ago, Swisscom began using a new filter for the mail service of its residential DSL customers. Since June 2013, Swisscom is continuing the stepwise implementation of this filter to further stem the flow of spam. Implementation is scheduled to be complete in March 2014. Swisscom estimates that about 98% of all customers will not notice any changes at all. Only residential Swisscom customers who use an outside provider's server for their outgoing e-mails in conjunction with SMTP authentication on Port 25 will be required to adjust their e-mail settings for the outgoing post server (SMTP) from Port 25 to Port 587. Affected customers will be notified with an error message, which will lead them to Swisscom’s Help page where they can make the necessary adjustments themselves. It is quite possible that some customers preferring personal, individual support will contact their e-mail account provider. It is recommended that these customers consult the following page for Swisscom help services: http://www.swisscom.ch/p25/. Best regards, Security Swisscom Switzerland Abuse & Security Operations

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Strafanklage gegen Schweizer Spamer
by Xaver Aerni 04 Oct '13

04 Oct '13

Hallo zusammen, Ich bin zur Zeit an einer Strafanzeige wegen versendung von Spams an folgende Personen einzureichen: Herrn Dr.Erb (ist leider Jurist, deshalb hat die Staatsanwaltschaft sehr grosse Angst) sowie gegen die AntifeministenZeitung... Die Person bin ich noch am Ermitteln, aber die Staatsanwaltschaft müsste wissen wer dahinter steckt. Diese Leute nerven wegen den Spams besonders. Beim letzten Versuch konnte ich nur 10 geschädigte der Staatsanwaltschaft geben. Darauf meinte die Staatsanwaltschaft es ist nicht bewiesen dass ein Spam verschickt wurde. Da ich aus Datenschutzgründen nicht einfach die Logfiles unserer Server beilegen konnte, möchte ich, dass andere Betroffen mir eine Kopie von einer dieser Mails mit Header zustellen. Das Ziel ist das ich der Staatsanwaltschaft etwa 100 bis 1000 Mails übergeben kann. Ich denke dann muss die Staaatsanwaltschaft eine Anzeige machen. Ich danke für Eure Mithilfe gegen Spam im Voraus. Besten Dank und Gruss Xaver Aerni

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OFFTOPIC: Hardware needed
by Silvan M. Gebhardt 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

Hi Folks, Slightly offtopic but someone might be happy to help me out: I'm in need of a Sun X6270 Blade Module, 2x 2.26Ghz QuadCore E5520 Prozessor, 2-4GB Memory. No Disks needed. Anyone got a recommendation where to look at? I don't like to have to go to oracle directly Thx, Silvan Silvan Gebhardt Openfactory GmbH Bahnhofstrasse 85 8500 Frauenfeld Mobile CH +41 78 810 39 88 Mobile AT +43 664 180 1971 Landline CH +41 52 566 95 01

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Scenic route of the day: L3 towards UPC
by Fredy Kuenzler 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

Anyone else seeing this... do we have a new peering spat or is it just a random routing issue? Regards, Fredy traceroute to 84.116.204.234 (84.116.204.234), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 r1zlz1.core.init7.net (77.109.136.233) [AS13030] 23.682 ms 23.741 ms 23.775 ms 2 r1zrh1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.209) [AS13030] 0.188 ms r1zrh2.core.init7.net (77.109.128.74) [AS13030] 0.199 ms r1zrh1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.209) [AS13030] 0.193 ms 3 r1bas1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.130) [AS13030] 1.090 ms 1.129 ms r1fra1.core.init7.net (77.109.128.250) [AS13030] 38.806 ms 4 r1fra2.core.init7.net (77.109.128.133) [AS13030] 5.997 ms 5.988 ms 6.016 ms 5 TenGigabitEthernet8-1.ar2.FRA4.gblx.net (64.213.54.33) [AS3549] 6.653 ms 6.134 ms 6.673 ms 6 ae7.edge2.SanJose3.level3.net (4.68.62.177) [AS3356] 153.420 ms 152.925 ms 153.399 ms 7 vlan70.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.126) [AS3356] 161.564 ms vlan90.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.254) [AS3356] 161.054 ms vlan70.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.152.126) [AS3356] 161.807 ms 8 ae-71-71.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.5) [AS3356] 160.948 ms ae-61-61.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.153.1) [AS3356] 160.512 ms 160.433 ms 9 ae-2-2.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.69.135.186) [AS3356] 161.355 ms 161.310 ms 161.509 ms 10 ae-47-47.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.69.201.34) [AS3356] 161.949 ms 4.69.201.38 (4.69.201.38) [AS3356] 161.581 ms 161.724 ms 11 ae-1-100.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net (4.69.135.253) [AS3356] 162.124 ms 161.121 ms 161.658 ms 12 4.69.201.85 (4.69.201.85) [AS3356] 161.126 ms 4.69.201.93 (4.69.201.93) [AS3356] 161.524 ms 4.69.201.85 (4.69.201.85) [AS3356] 161.193 ms 13 ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) [AS3356] 161.151 ms 161.558 ms ae-82-82.csw3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.154) [AS3356] 161.627 ms 14 ae-33-80.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.133) [AS3356] 185.388 ms ae-43-90.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.197) [AS3356] 263.449 ms ae-23-70.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.69) [AS3356] 264.054 ms 15 UPC-BROADBA.car3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.79.168.202) [AS3356] 161.118 ms 161.109 ms 160.838 ms 16 84.116.134.61 (84.116.134.61) [AS6830] 167.752 ms 167.674 ms 159.751 ms 17 at-vie15a-ra1-xe-2-2-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.245) [AS6830] 160.584 ms 161.327 ms 84-116-130-62.aorta.net (84.116.130.62) [AS6830] 160.749 ms 18 hu-bud02a-ra3-xe-1-1-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.194) [AS6830] 161.284 ms 160.877 ms ch-zrh02a-ra1-xe-2-0-0.aorta.net (84.116.130.226) [AS6830] 160.285 ms 19 84.116.204.234 (84.116.204.234) [AS6830] 160.346 ms 160.831 ms 160.272 ms -- Fredy Kuenzler Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd. AS13030 St. Georgen-Strasse 70 CH-8400 Winterthur Skype: flyingpotato Phone: +41 44 315 4400 Fax: +41 44 315 4401 Twitter: @init7 / @kuenzler http://www.init7.net/

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