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Extraction fees
by Pim van Pelt 14 Nov '11

14 Nov '11

Hi NOG! An ISP that I have had a ~4y relationship with has recently terminated the hosting for a small number of servers (3x 1U machine and a switch and a console server). For a while they were not able to return my equipment to me, but now they have sent me a friendly letter asking me to pay a significant sum of money (to the tune of 4000 CHF) extraction fee, and that I must accompany two engineers on-site for about 16 hours to safely remove the equipment. Is it common for swiss companies to terminate agreements and then send an invoice for returning the property? Feel free to drop me a note off-list. -- Pim van Pelt <pim(a)ipng.nl> PBVP1-RIPE - http://www.ipng.nl/

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Re: [swinog] Extraction fees
by vwatson＠dancendrumarts.com 14 Nov '11

14 Nov '11

Pim: Take the police there with you. This should add a sobering, legalizing effect to the whole ordeal because nothing about this sounds normal OR legal! If not the police, then take your lawyer so that the company can explain the details of this 'extraction excercize' to the attourney. To me this sounds (pardon my French everyone!) more like an INSERTION tnan an extraction! Cheers! Vinnie -----Original Message----- From: Will van Gulik [mailto:mailing-porcus@porcus.ch] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 02:56 AM To: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Extraction fees Hi Pim, First, I'm thinking that 16 hours and 2 (other) guys for 3 servers and some network devices looks a bit heavy. Maybe that's what they are counting for the time spent for those two guys. My point of view is that if they act like that after a long work period, it might be a place/company to avoid. However if you don't have pending bills, I don't see why they are charging you for extraction, that's really non sense. Will On 11/13/11 11:19 PM, Pim van Pelt wrote: > Hi NOG! > > An ISP that I have had a ~4y relationship with has recently terminated > the hosting for a small number of servers (3x 1U machine and a switch > and a console server). For a while they were not able to return my > equipment to me, but now they have sent me a friendly letter asking me > to pay a significant sum of money (to the tune of 4000 CHF) extraction > fee, and that I must accompany two engineers on-site for about 16 > hours to safely remove the equipment. Is it common for swiss companies > to terminate agreements and then send an invoice for returning the > property? > > Feel free to drop me a note off-list. _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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ALU ISAM 7330
by Stanislav Sinyagin 11 Nov '11

11 Nov '11

hi all, is anyone using Alcatel ISAM 7330 and managing it with third-party SNMP tools? There's a problem that the SNMP interface indexing is not documented in the MIBs, so it's nontrivial to derive the line names from IF-MIB entries. If anyone has already addressed this problem, please contact me off-list. thanks, stan

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Lost & Found
by Roman Hochuli 11 Nov '11

11 Nov '11

Dear All We found a ring and a scarf yesterday. If you are missing these objects please get in touch with the Gurten staff on +41 31 970 33 33. Regards Roman

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*special* FONDUE SwiNOG-BE104 - Beer Event 104 - 5th of December 2011 @ Chäsalp / Alter Tobelhof / ZH
by Steven Glogger 10 Nov '11

10 Nov '11

hi everybody december is fondue time. please note: - place is limited - registration deadline is one week before the facts for the next event: ----------------------------- Date: 5th of December 2011 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Chäsalp / Alter Tobelhof" in Zürich Available Places: 20 Registration deadline: 28.11.2011 18:00:00 (Monday) Important: Seats are limited! If you subscribe be REALLY SURE that you come! ----------------------------- Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap (+41 79 277 92 35). greetings -steven

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Using MED for outgoing traffic management
by Roque Gagliano 10 Nov '11

10 Nov '11

Hi all, As I mentioned in the mic at the end of the previous session. The MED attribute is often also used by content providers to be able to manage outgoing traffic by affecting the selection criteria when there is a tie in the ASPATH. This "new" use of the attribute (rather than the "cold potato" routing mentioned) is very well described in this NANOG presentation: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog46/abstracts.php?pt=MTM3MiZuYW5vZzQ2&nm=… Roque -- At least I did something Don Draper - Mad Men

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Environmental Monitoring
by Kay Schroeder 10 Nov '11

10 Nov '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm going to evaluate alternatives for environmental monitoring in data centres. The following measurepoints are required: - - measurement of voltage - - measurement of current (16A) per circuit - - measurement of temperature and humidity I wonder if somebody of you are using environmental monitoring appliance and which type of experiences do you have. Important to say it that it should be easy to manage via Web and SNMP. IPv6 would be nice ;) Kind Regards, Kay - -- Kay Schroeder e-mail: kay.schroeder(a)de-cix.net DE-CIX Management GmbH Phone: +49 69 1730 902-43 Lindleystr. 12, 60314 Frankfurt Mobile: +49 151 21292486 Geschaeftsfuehrer Harald A. Summa Fax: +49 69 4056 2716 Registergericht AG Koeln, HRB 51135 http://www.de-cix.net Zentrale: Lichtstr. 43i, 50825 Koeln -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOu41UAAoJEAukAFDXIpv1nFcH/judwWyb2jmT5Ot/6ram6hi8 6hQr/mh4yy1MhpO+ihpcUNehglHZmc8FDCTIcgRqQ1SGr0pPZOfqMAhp9Y6BYZn0 xJe5dxTqnymi6He6N69xqW9I6x9gwgYIhDwi+vK1UIzWzSr2PldwlxqmjYx1sAqf 0xdNS9h7bk5aG01qUCK3IN7RniPrgDFU/44LQZOxq40bXyDg8uQOQcCWDX7n7oFu 5bm+pO2we2RRbFFzZpJJr6f6sCIWTxxTLSoQjhSZ90QHJbuasBz9CSZbUfgIe+jd 6+O+ZxxIDVWkWitVU1sCTUZYSRYoE6lzyxWpHrNgk/nG11cTq1jifepuXexa3AA= =Lvbf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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System Engineer bei EBM
by Schlageter Benjamin 09 Nov '11

09 Nov '11

Hallo zusammen Als Verstärkung für unser Engineering Team suchen wir einen System Engineer. Weitere Infos könnt ihr dem Text entnehmen. Gruss Benjamin ------ Als System Engineer (m/w) beteiligst du dich aktiv an dem Betrieb und Weiterentwicklung unserer Plattformen. Du bist in der Lage dich selbstständig in komplexe Systeme einzudenken und diese kritisch zu hinterfragen. Dein technisches Know-How in den Bereichen Unix und Internet hilft dir bei der täglichen Arbeit. Neues und Unbekanntes macht dir Spass und du magst es Dinge richtig zu lösen. Du analysierts Probleme von verschiedenen Seiten um eine optimale Lösung zu finden. Deine Aufgaben: * Aktive beteiligung an der Weiterentwicklung und dem Unterhalt unserer Plattformen * Evaluation, Integration und Unterhalt von Hardware-, Netzwerk und Softwarekomponenten * Definieren von technischen Anforderungen für neue Systeme * Wartung und Sicherstellung des Betriebs unserer Infrastruktur rund um die Uhr * Unterstützen des Servicecenters bei anspruchsvollen Problemen oder Störungen Dein Profil: * Du verfügst über eine abgeschlossene Berufslehre, vorzugsweise als Informatiker * Interesse an komplexen technischen Herausforderungen * Du zeigst Eigeninitiative und kannst selbstständig arbeiten * Neue Technologien kannst du dir im Selbststudium selbser beibringen * Du bist ein Teamplayer, flexibel und bleibst auch in Stresssituationen ruhig * Der Umgang mit Linux (Debian), Shells und Scriptsprachen gehört zu deinem Alltag * Vertieftes Verständnis von Netzwerkprotokollen: nebst TCP/IP auch Layer5-7 Protokolle wie HTTP, FTP, SMTP, SNMP, SIP etc. * Der Umgang mit VMware und iSCSI Storage ist die nicht fremd * Bereitschaft zum Piket-Dienst Wir bieten: * Viele abwechslungsreiche und vielseitige Tätigkeiten * Ein junges, gut eingespieltest Team * Flexible Arbeitszeiten und 5 Wochen Ferien * Unterstützung bei Weiterbildungen * Verantwortung für den Betrieb und der zukünftigen Entwicklung unserer Services * Einen angenehmen Arbeitsplatz in modernen Büroräumlichkeiten Hast du Interesse? Dann sende deine vollständigen Bewerbungsunterlagen an Herrn Daniel Probst, Abteilungsleiter Personalentwicklung oder via E-Mail an jobs(a)ebm.ch. Für Fachfragen kannst du dich an Herr Igor D'Ambrosio, Teamleiter Engineering & Betrieb, Telefon 061 415 47 45 wenden.

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Re: [swinog] Fwd: Recommended datacenter in Dubai
by Sam Rumhy 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

Good Day, You may check out "Ehosting Datafort" http://www.ehdf.com/ in DXB. Its in Dubai internet city. Kind Regards, Sam Rumhy > > ---------- Urspr�ngliche Nachricht ---------- > Von: Marcel Prisi<marcel(a)virtua.ch> > An: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > Datum: 8. November 2011 um 10:54 > Betreff: [swinog] Recommended datacenter in Dubai > > Hi Swinoggers, > > We are looking for a good colocation / dedicated server in Dubai ... > > Do you have any recommandation ? > > Thanks ! > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Recommended datacenter in Dubai
by Marcel Prisi 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

Hi Swinoggers, We are looking for a good colocation / dedicated server in Dubai ... Do you have any recommandation ? Thanks !

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