swinog May 2006

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About the Fiber Cut in Augst yesterday; reasons, consequences and solutions
by Guillaume Leclanche 25 May '06

25 May '06

Hello, As some of you probably already know, our (Fibre Lac) 144-fibers cable was completely cut yesterday on the motorway between Basel and Zürich, somewhere on the communal territory of KaiserAugst, in Canton Argau, near the border with Basel-Land. On this part of the motorway, there are a lot of ducts burried, something like six 120mm ducts and twelve 34 mm. The people doing work there were installing new driver crash barriers, which is done by digging holes for the posts and then putting the posts in the holes. They go as far as 1m for the barrier to be correctly installed. The 34mm fiber ducts, used by Fibre Lac and two international operators, are burried below the six 120mm ducts, and the whole thing is filled with concrete. The workers still managed to have the posts go through two (empty) 120mm ducts and reached, 60cm under the ground, fiber optics cables, among which they broke several the tubes, but only one really filled with fibers, ours. The other operators were not cut. Among impacted customers and partners, there were several operators and internet exchanges, and especially SwissIX and IXEurope (TIX link Geneva-Zurich). We then quickly started to look for a rescue solution at least for the active network (we couldn't really find a 144-fibers unsused cable on another path), and we managed to have a rescue link set up at about 22:40, thanks to several people : - Freddy Kuenzler, Init7, for lending the fiber pair, and spending hours trying to get the whole thing working, - Sascha Kaufmann, IXEurope, for spending hours trying to get the whole thing working, - Herr Bolliger, IWB, for spending hours trying to get the whole thing working, when it was public holidays in Basel. Today, at 5am, a 200m temporary fiber cable was replacing the broken one, laid down in a temporary duct behind the fence along the motorway, this is obviously not secure, but at least bytes can flow again. We're working on the definitive solution, which means re-opening the motorway, changing the damaged duct parts, and blow a new cable. If you want more information, I'll be happy to provide you with it, since I believe it's quite an ususual incident and I think it's better for everyone to know what happens and what is done ! I and Fibre Lac globally, we are really sorry for every one of you who got issues directly or indirectly due to this incident. Thank you for your understanding ! Guillaume

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Niksa Tomulic is out of the office.
by Niksa Tomulic 24 May '06

24 May '06

I will be out of the office starting 22.05.2006 and will not return until 24.05.2006. I will respond to your e-mail with a delay. Please don't hesitate to call me on my mobile +385 91 1288 333 Niksa Tomulic Director, Professional Services ccie #11548 NIL Data Communications direct +386 1 4746 537 mobile +385 91 1288 333 http://www.nil.com ******************************************** Cisco Systems Global Learning Solutions Partner of the Year

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Rules for used hardware selling
by Marc Eggenberger 23 May '06

23 May '06

Dear list. How are the current rules for selling hardware? As far as I remember its ok if I only sell a few used pieces. I dont do this as a business of course. Just found a couple of stuff during my last move ;-) Thanks for any comments. Regards, Marc

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Reminder: BE^2 No.3
by Reto Burkhalter 23 May '06

23 May '06

Hello everybody Just a short reminder: - What: Berne-Beer Event 3 - Location: Altes Tramdepot Bern - Date: Thursday, May 25th, 2006 - Time: starting 18.00 until ? Tramdepot is reserved - a few seats still available.. please contact me off-list, if you want to attend. Greets, Reto

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Cisco AS5350 8E1
by Sarpreet 18 May '06

18 May '06

Hi, I came across a used Cisco AS535-8E1-210-AC I am selling at $16500 USD. If you have interest please feel free to contact me. Regards, Sarpreet Basi Knowledge Computers Email: sar(a)knowledgecomputers.net Toll-free: 800.967.6609 x102 International: 250.748.0818 x102 Fax: 250.748.3388 Mobile: 250.709.0336 AOL IM: sarpreetb MSN: sarpreet(a)hotmail.com www.knowledgecomputers.net

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Niksa Tomulic is out of the office.
by Niksa Tomulic 17 May '06

17 May '06

I will be out of the office starting 15.05.2006 and will not return until 19.05.2006. I will respond to your e-mail with a delay. Please don't hesitate to call me on my mobile +385 91 1288 333 Niksa Tomulic Director, Professional Services ccie #11548 NIL Data Communications direct +386 1 4746 537 mobile +385 91 1288 333 http://www.nil.com ******************************************** Cisco Systems Global Learning Solutions Partner of the Year

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RE: [swinog] Power outage in CERN
by Ludwig Pregernig 16 May '06

16 May '06

According to preliminary reports the following happened. The 400kV line from France to CERN went down. This caused --as it should be-- the switchover to the 130kV Swiss line within 30". But then the Swiss line went down. The critical UPS (220V) stayed up and equipment powered by it was not affected. The cut brought down a unit of a 48V-system which affected some equipment. Just for information, the computer-centre power substation is for 6 MW of power. Two high-voltage lines come directly into CERN (400kV from France and 130kV from Switzerland). If one of them fails switchover to the other occurs within 30". If both fail, diesel generators come up within 10'. With our apologies, Ludwig Pregernig (phone: 022-7672666, mobile: 076-4875370) -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Jérôme Tissières Sent: 16 May 2006 14:18 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Power outage in CERN Hi all, It seems the CERN have (again) a power outage, but not all is down. The hotline is not reachable... anybody have more infos ? Thanks, Jerome _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] Power outage in CERN
by Jérôme Tissières 16 May '06

16 May '06

Yes, here too. Any official news from CERN ? Cu, Jerome > -----Message d'origine----- > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Nicolas Strina > Envoyé : mardi, 16. mai 2006 14:32 > À : swinog(a)swinog.ch > Objet : Re: [swinog] Power outage in CERN > > Hello, > > UP again here. > > Cu, > > Nico > > > EDF supply failed, and when the CERN switched to the Swiss > network, SIG didn't handle the load, I've been said there was > a power failure consequently in a wider area of Geneva than > just the CERN. CERN is on diesel power and does not know how > long it will last. > > > > That's all that I know (not directly from CERN-mouth). > > > > Guillaume > > > >> -----Message d'origine----- > >> De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog- > >> bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Jérôme Tissières Envoyé : > >> mardi, 16. mai 2006 14:18 À : swinog(a)swinog.ch Objet : > [swinog] Power > >> outage in CERN > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> It seems the CERN have (again) a power outage, but not all is down. > >> > >> The hotline is not reachable... anybody have more infos ? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Jerome > >> _______________________________________________ > >> swinog mailing list > >> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > >

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RE: [swinog] Power outage in CERN
by Guillaume Leclanche 16 May '06

16 May '06

EDF supply failed, and when the CERN switched to the Swiss network, SIG didn't handle the load, I've been said there was a power failure consequently in a wider area of Geneva than just the CERN. CERN is on diesel power and does not know how long it will last. That's all that I know (not directly from CERN-mouth). Guillaume > -----Message d'origine----- > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog- > bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Jérôme Tissières > Envoyé : mardi, 16. mai 2006 14:18 > À : swinog(a)swinog.ch > Objet : [swinog] Power outage in CERN > > Hi all, > > It seems the CERN have (again) a power outage, but not all is down. > > The hotline is not reachable... anybody have more infos ? > > Thanks, > Jerome > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Power outage in CERN
by Jérôme Tissières 16 May '06

16 May '06

Hi all, It seems the CERN have (again) a power outage, but not all is down. The hotline is not reachable... anybody have more infos ? Thanks, Jerome

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