Hello,
I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has only 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd start a thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in reality _already_ exhausted at IANA.
If you read IANA policies, you know that among the 7 "/8" (some here will know a /8 as "class A" even though it's incorrect), 5 are reserved (1 per RIR) and will be allocated when they are the only ones left. That leaves IANA with only 2 "/8". But APNIC is _already_ entitled to get these addresses, as per IANA policy (they don't have enough left to hold 9 months at their average alloc rate). And when they will in reality request these addresses, it will trigger the allocation of the "last 5", and, well, the end.
The request from APNIC could come tomorrow, or next week, or in 3/4 months. They can do it whenever they want. It doesn't matter, the way the movie ends is already known : APNIC will get 3 more /8, our beloved RIPE will get 1 more, as well as ARIN, LACNIC, and AFRINIC.
If you have another understanding of the situation, please share, I didn't find a lot of real analysis on the current situation, mainly refs to potaroo, so I'd be happy to discuss.
Now if you have not thought yet about how your network will reach the networks that will be IPv6-only starting middle of next year, well ... I'm sure a lot of people on the list are ready to help :)
Guillaume
Am 03.12.2010 00:27, schrieb Guillaume Leclanche:
I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has only 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd start a thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in reality _already_ exhausted at IANA.
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Good summary, thanks for this.
Now if you have not thought yet about how your network will reach the networks that will be IPv6-only starting middle of next year, well ... I'm sure a lot of people on the list are ready to help :)
I'd say some have to cancel christmas holiday and network freeze periods... too bad. Anyway, I thought I share the links of the latest versions my presentations I gave earlier in various occations, which may be a start to make the network IPv6 ready.
http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/IPv6-deployment-for-the-IPv4-clueful-heise-ipv6-... http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/Native-IPv6-via-xdsl-how-to-tweak-your-LNS.pdf
Good luck to all v6 newbies!
F.
Am 03.12.10 00:55, schrieb Fredy Kuenzler:
Am 03.12.2010 00:27, schrieb Guillaume Leclanche:
I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has only 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd start a thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in reality _already_ exhausted at IANA.
[...]
Good summary, thanks for this.
Now if you have not thought yet about how your network will reach the networks that will be IPv6-only starting middle of next year, well ... I'm sure a lot of people on the list are ready to help :)
I'd say some have to cancel christmas holiday and network freeze periods... too bad. Anyway, I thought I share the links of the latest versions my presentations I gave earlier in various occations, which may be a start to make the network IPv6 ready.
http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/IPv6-deployment-for-the-IPv4-clueful-heise-ipv6-...
http://www.blogg.ch/uploads/Native-IPv6-via-xdsl-how-to-tweak-your-LNS.pdf
Nice presentations, thanks for sharing them. I've got native IPv6 even on my home (ADSL) network with a /48 and it works nearly perfect.
Just not sure if my ISP is knowledgeable about delegating the DNS reverse lookups to my server....
Good luck to all v6 newbies!
F.
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-----Original Message----- From: Guillaume Leclanche guillaume@leclanche.net To: swinog swinog@swinog.ch Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 00:27:13 +0100 Subject: [swinog] IPv4 already exhausted at IANA ?
Hi Guillaume,
I noticed on this list no special reaction to the fact that IANA has only 7*/8 left after the allocations on Nov. 30th. So I thought I'd start a thread to share my thoughts on the fact that IPv4 is in reality _already_ exhausted at IANA.
yes, this is quite true, as the counter indicate March 1st as the deadline.
http://www.wari.net/ipv4exh.htm
But we're working on Ipv6 from 10 years, previewing this moment. If operators are not ready yet, this is not because nobody had care of it. In other words, I'm not seeing anything strange in the fact that IPv4 are in effect finished. If NRO decided to distribute last /8s in such way, or in another, doesn't matter. The fact is that the D-day is near us and we cannot continue to surprise ourselves every time if this happens.
Thanks Fredy for his presentation (I saw it twice this year :D) and for bringing IPv6 to Internet Citizens.
Manfredo
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2010/12/3 Manfredo Miserocchi mis@wari.net:
Hi Manfredo,
But we're working on Ipv6 from 10 years, previewing this moment. If operators are not ready yet, this is not because nobody had care of it. In other words, I'm not seeing anything strange in the fact that IPv4 are in effect finished. If NRO decided to distribute last /8s in such way, or in another, doesn't matter. The fact is that the D-day is near us and we cannot continue to surprise ourselves every time if this happens.
I agree with you, it's not a surprise. I wanted to send a well-argumented reminder for those who still think that the counter is "just a counter".
Given the audience of the list in Switzerland and outside, it's always good to tickle people who missed the event, especially when they're planning their budget for the year to come.
Normally Freddy or Jeroen would do that but for once they were maybe "exhausted" ;)
Guillaume
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