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Cogent routing to AS44038 / AS3303
by Matias Meier 12 Dec '12

12 Dec '12

Good evening Swinog If someone from Swisscom / Bluewin is reading here: I know about at least three announced subnets on AS44038 / AS3303: 188.62.0.0/15 178.192.0.0/14 85.0.0.0/14 I think there is some routing issue. All three subnets gets routed very different since 1-2 weeks from cogent zurich, see the traceroutes made from cogent looking glass router in zurich: traceroute to 178.192.0.0 (178.192.0.0), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 te2-2.3.ccr01.zrh01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.254.113) 145.741 ms 145.737 ms 2 i79tix-005-xe0-3-3.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.149) 0.255 ms 0.267 ms 3 i00sgx-005-pos2-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.144) 0.659 ms 0.763 ms 4 i79zhb-025-hu4-0-0.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.143) 2.892 ms 2.899 ms 5 1-220-3-213.bluewin.ch (213.3.220.1) 1.054 ms 1.139 ms 6 10-218-3-213.bluewin.ch (213.3.218.10) 1.077 ms 0.837 ms traceroute to 85.0.0.0 (85.0.0.0), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 te2-2.3.ccr01.zrh01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.254.113) 0.352 ms 0.355 ms 2 te3-7.ccr01.lys01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.73.177) 8.018 ms te2-4.ccr01.lys01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.3.193) 8.033 ms 3 te3-2.ccr01.gnb01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.48.214) 9.542 ms 9.549 ms 4 te2-1.ccr01.gva01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.39.233) 13.354 ms 13.363 ms 5 swisscom.gva01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.14.54) 11.861 ms 11.873 ms 6 i68geb-025-bun14.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.14) 18.959 ms 18.968 ms 7 i79zhb-025-ten0-9-0-8.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.154) 8.624 ms i79zhb-025-bun4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.37) 12.166 ms 8 5-220-3-213.bluewin.ch (213.3.220.5) 8.746 ms 8.756 ms 9 14-218-3-213.bluewin.ch (213.3.218.14) 9.636 ms 8.619 ms BAD ROUTING (over foreign countries, high latency): traceroute to 188.62.0.0 (188.62.0.0), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 te2-2.3.ccr01.zrh01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.254.113) 0.414 ms 0.414 ms 2 te3-1.ccr01.str01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.1.113) 3.302 ms te1-2.ccr01.str01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.3.13) 3.319 ms 3 te0-0-0-7.ccr21.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.3.78) 6.381 ms 6.411 ms 4 te0-2-0-2.ccr21.vie01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.73.230) 12.630 ms 12.638 ms 5 62.157.248.57 (62.157.248.57) 62.245 ms 62.226 ms 6 217.239.40.230 (217.239.40.230) 69.447 ms 217.239.39.22 (217.239.39.22) 69.035 ms 7 80.157.130.222 (80.157.130.222) 72.955 ms 72.969 ms 8 i79zhb-025-bun11.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.106) 68.502 ms 68.480 ms 9 1-220-3-213.bluewin.ch (213.3.220.1) 68.514 ms 68.471 ms 10 10-218-3-213.bluewin.ch (213.3.218.10) 68.110 ms 68.067 ms Wish you a nice evening and sorry for my bad english. -Matias

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Fwd: AccessPolicy to swisstime.ethz.ch changed to ClosedAccess
by Steven Glogger 11 Dec '12

11 Dec '12

FYI, we've received such a message... -steven Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht: > Von: "Wittmann Armin" <awittmann(a)ethz.ch> > Betreff: AccessPolicy to swisstime.ethz.ch changed to ClosedAccess > Datum: 11. Dezember 2012 09:01:06 MEZ > An: ID.NET.Hostmaster <hostmaster(a)ethz.ch> > > Dear Hostmaster, dear network responsible > > You are receiving this notification because devices in your network are using the ntp-Service of swisstime.ethz.ch and you are among the most frequent users (several 10 MB data per day). The usage of swisstime.ethz.ch has been increasing constantly over the years and has reached a state that would require additional specialized hardware to support the millions of sessions. The board of ICT-Services of ETH Zürich decided not to spend this money for new devices but to block the access to the server in the near future. > > For this reason the Access Policy of swisstime.ethz.ch has been changed to "Closed Access" > http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/SwisstimeEthzCh > and you are kindly requested to use other ntp-Services provided by the internet for free - > we recommend using the public ntp-Pool > http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/ > > We intend to block the access to swisstime.ethz.ch in June 2013. > > Do not hesitate to contact me for further questions. > Kind regards > Armin Wittmann > > Dr. Armin Wittmann > ETH Zürich - Informatikdienste - ICT-Networks > Division Head > Weinbergstrasse 43 - WET B3 > CH-8092 Zürich - Switzerland > Tel.: +41 44 632 50 15 > Fax: +41 44 632 11 66 > E-Mail: awittmann(a)ethz.ch > > >

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some one interested in NI-MLX-1Gx20 cards
by Michael Richter 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Hi I have two used Brocade NI-MLX-1Gx20-GC which I will sell. If someone is interested please send me a mail. I checked the compatiblity and this card should run in the following devices: - MLX (SFM and hSFM) - MLXe with MLX or MR2 MGMT Freundliche Grüsse sasag Kabelkommunikation AG Michael Richter dipl. Techniker HF Mühlenstrasse 21 8201 Schaffhausen mrichter(a)sasag.ch 052 633 01 71 www.sasag.ch

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SwiNOG-BE116 cancelled
by Roman Hochuli 01 Dec '12

01 Dec '12

Dear all We are sorry to announce that for various reasons BE116 has to be cancelled. Looking forward to see you all again in 2013 for the Fondue-Event in January. -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Sent from my iPhone

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SwiNOG-BE116 cancelled
by Roman Hochuli 01 Dec '12

01 Dec '12

Dear all -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Sent from my iPhone

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Internet Society Delegation to Attend World Conference on International Telecommunications in Dubai, 3-14 December 2012
by Jeroen Massar 30 Nov '12

30 Nov '12

On the subject of that ITU thing... -------- Original Message -------- Internet Society Delegation to Attend World Conference on International Telecommunications in Dubai, 3-14 December 2012 More than 50 members of the Internet Society global community will participate [Washington, D.C. and Geneva, Switzerland – 30 November 2012] – An Internet Society delegation will attend the World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) in Dubai, 3-14 December 2012. WCIT is a global treaty conference hosted by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) where 193 ITU Member States come together to discuss and modify the International Telecommunications Regulations (ITRs). Approximately 50 members of the Internet Society global community will attend the meetings. As a Sector Member of the ITU Telecommunication Standards and Telecommunication Development Sectors, the Internet Society submitted a statement to the ITU as part of the WCIT public consultation. The statement can be found here: http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/WCITSubmissionOctober2012. The Internet Society remains hopeful that the ITU Member State delegations to the WCIT will agree to a treaty that enhances rather than restricts international telecommunications. The Internet Society and its Board of Trustees believe that any revisions to the ITRs should: * Reinforce Member States’ commitment to open, transparent, and inclusive policy-making processes; * Enshrine a commitment to open, voluntary international standards; * Enable continued innovation; * Emphasize policy approaches such as competition, liberalization, and transparency; * Be based on thorough technical and socio-economic analysis; and * Retain the high-level nature of the ITRs. The Internet Society delegation looks forward to having opportunities to interact with Member State delegations during the course of the Conference and to a successful outcome of the WCIT. For more information on WCIT, visit http://internetsociety.org/wcit. http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-delegation-attend-worl…

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(secret) ITU conference in Dubai: Swiss Delegation?
by Fredy Kuenzler 29 Nov '12

29 Nov '12

Does anyone know the Swiss delegate of the upcoming ITU conference in Dubai? It would be appropriate if the delegate of our democratic country actually has a known face and we all know how he/she is going to vote. The topics in this conference are a real threat to the Internet we know and love (refer to the SwiNOG #25 slides of Arnold). If you are not familiar yet with the topic, watch (and share) this website and video: https://www.whatistheitu.org/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzNQarkk95Q Regards, Fredy Künzler / Init7

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20.000 Cables under the Ocean
by Andre Oppermann 26 Nov '12

26 Nov '12

A very interesting report on ARTE about undersea cables. Visiting a cable repair ship, cable manufacturing, and so on... Available in German and French (43 Minutes): http://videos.arte.tv/de/videos/20-000-kabel-unter-dem-meer--7062114.html http://videos.arte.tv/fr/videos/20-000-cables-sous-les-mers--7062114.html Available for watching until Wednesday 17:00. -- Andre

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Re: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP
by vwatson＠dancendrumarts.com 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Silvan: Well, you said you had the all SFP switch with the 2 gig uplinks completing the ring of 5 switches and having only 24 Fast Ethernet ports with SFP capability available....how were you intending to use these ports ? Why do you say your cpe devices are not appropriate? Also are the ring of switches all the same make/model? What are the 24 100mbit ports on that last switch NOT doing? Please bring some more details of your plan if you would. Are all switches running same config and IOS verson and feature set? Regards, Vinnie -----Original Message----- From: Silvan Gebhardt [mailto:gebhardt@openfactory.ch] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 02:37 PM To: vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com Cc: swinog(a)swinog.ch, 'Frederic Gargula' Subject: Re: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----Hash: SHA1so basically what I have is the all SFP Switch, with 24 Fibre Ports onFastEthernet and 2 Gigabit Ports. Gigabit is all taken since we have 5switches in a ring.Therefore I have some situation where my CPE is not appropriate and Iwanted to use SX or LX fibre there. 1000BASE TX do not work.BestSilvanAm 22.11.2012 13:08, schrieb vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com:> Frederic:> > You are quite right, I stand corrected! The 3400g-2cs has only two > 10/100/1000 ports and the 3400g-12cs has 12 such ports. My main> point was that these switches support SFP on other than uplink> ports and the me 3400-24ts does not. Thanks for the correction.> Best Regards,> > Vinnie> > > -----Original Message----- *From:* Frederic Gargula> [mailto:frederic.gargula@ip-max.net] *Sent:* Thursday, November 22,> 2012 12:03 PM *To:* vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com *Cc:* 'Silvan> Gebhardt', swinog(a)swinog.ch *Subject:* Re: [swinog] Yet another> "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP> > Hello, ME 3400G-2CS has only 2 10/100/1000 ports. Best regards,> Frederic Gargula IP-Max On Nov 22, 2012, at 11:58 AM,> vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com wrote: > Hi Silvan: > > Hope you are> doing well. It looks like there is only one model of these switches> that supports SFP on the 100mbit ports. That model is ME 3400-24FS.> It supports SFP on the 100mbit ports and on the 2 gbit uplink> ports. > > The other switch from this platform that has only> 10/100mbit ports (ME 3400-24TS) only supports SFP on the 2 gigabit> uplink ports. > > The remainder of the switches in this series:>>> ME 3400G-12CS > ME 3400G-2CS > > Both have 24 10/100/1000 Dual> purpose ports that support SFP and RJ45. I hope this helps. Best > Regards, > > Vinniw Watson > > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Silvan Gebhardt [mailto:gebhardt@openfactory.ch] > Sent:> Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:54 AM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch >> Subject: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, I have an> ME3400. I need SFP that work on the 100mbit ports, I need 1x LX 2x> SX OR: 3x 100mbit Copper please note, the fastethernet ports on> this switch do not accept the 100BASE-SX or LX from cisco at all.> anyone that can help me out with SFP that work in that cisco switch> please contact me offlist with a good offer. Best Silvan -----BEGIN> PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment:> Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ > iEYEARECAAYFAlCt9msACgkQC82WwYR1u2qv/ACgm/SF7Q5hyfEDPlnlqybLbhVo > x0sAn1tVIo2VXa0HZyYlKbNo/zxv0l3J =zFfO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----> > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing> list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux)Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/iEYEARECAAYFAlCuKqwACgkQC82WwYR1u2ockwCfbeUrmdfFo6w… PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [swinog] Yet another"needhardwarenow"- 100mbit SFP
by vwatson＠dancendrumarts.com 22 Nov '12

22 Nov '12

Frederic: You are quite right, I stand corrected! The 3400g-2cs has only two 10/100/1000 ports and the 3400g-12cs has 12 such ports. My main point was that these switches support SFP on other than uplink ports and the me 3400-24ts does not. Thanks for the correction. Best Regards, Vinnie -----Original Message----- From: Frederic Gargula [mailto:frederic.gargula@ip-max.net] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:03 PM To: vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com Cc: 'Silvan Gebhardt', swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP Hello,ME 3400G-2CS has only 2 10/100/1000 ports.Best regards,Frederic GargulaIP-MaxOn Nov 22, 2012, at 11:58 AM, vwatson(a)dancendrumarts.com wrote:> Hi Silvan:> > Hope you are doing well. It looks like there is only one model of these switches that supports SFP on the 100mbit ports. That model is ME 3400-24FS. It supports SFP on the 100mbit ports and on the 2 gbit uplink ports. > > The other switch from this platform that has only 10/100mbit ports (ME 3400-24TS) only supports SFP on the 2 gigabit uplink ports.> > The remainder of the switches in this series:> > ME 3400G-12CS> ME 3400G-2CS> > Both have 24 10/100/1000 Dual purpose ports that support SFP and RJ45. I hope this helps. Best Regards,> > Vinniw Watson> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Silvan Gebhardt [mailto:gebhardt@openfactory.ch]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 10:54 AM> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch> Subject: [swinog] Yet another "need hardware now" - 100mbit SFP> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, I have an ME3400. I need SFP that work on the 100mbit ports, I need 1x LX 2x SX OR: 3x 100mbit Copper please note, the fastethernet ports on this switch do not accept the 100BASE-SX or LX from cisco at all. anyone that can help me out with SFP that work in that cisco switch please contact me offlist with a good offer. Best Silvan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlCt9msACgkQC82WwYR1u2qv/ACgm/SF7Q5hyfEDPlnlqybLbhVo x0sAn1tVIo2VXa0HZyYlKbNo/zxv0l3J =zFfO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________> swinog mailing list> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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