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RE: [swinog] Swindle? (Betrug)
by Fabrice La Farina 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

Hi all Thank you for your answers. > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of noc(a)everyware.ch > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:36 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] Swindle? (Betrug) > > On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:20:40 +0200 > "Matthias Hertzog" <m.hertzog(a)mhs.ch> wrote: > > > Yes, i've heard about it. It's the same company i wrote in > here a few months > > ago. It was called "EURO DOMAIN CONTROL" then. However, > somehow, they seem > > to have forced my posting out of the archives. :-( > > Do you mean this one? > > http://marmoset.init7.net/public/swinog/2006-April/001158.html > > - Dimitri > With best regards, Fabrice La Farina Services / Geraeteinformatiker Astaro Certified Engineer ______________________________ IFE Informatikpartner AG Luzernstrasse 13 CH-4552 Derendingen T: +41 (0) 32 682 16 72 F: +41 (0) 32 682 01 73 VoIP: +41 (0) 32 510 26 72 sip:41325102672@sip.backbone.ch fabrice.lafarina(a)ifeip.ch http://www.ifeip.ch/

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bluewin
by Walter Onda 25 Sep '06

25 Sep '06

Hello, Could some mailadmin from bluewin contact me offlist? Thanks in advanced. Walter ****************************************** Glattwerk AG Usterstrasse 111 8600 Dübendorf 2 Support: 0900 80 11 11 Tel: +41 (0)44 801 68 11 Fax: +41 (0)44 801 68 33 E-Mail: walter.onda(a)glattwerk.ch www: www.glattwerk.ch <http://www.glattwerk.ch/> www: www.glattnet.ch <http://www.glattnet.ch/> ******************************************

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Sunrise network issues?
by Fredy Kuenzler 22 Sep '06

22 Sep '06

Anyone else with problems to reach the Sunrise backbone? We saw an high latency between Verizon Business (702) and Sunrise and after rerouting via Telia (1299) the latency remained between in the Level3 (3356) Backbone. TTL LFT trace to business.sunrise.ch (195.141.106.101):80/tcp 1 [AS13030] r4.core.init7.net (213.144.129.65) 3.1ms 2 [AS13030] r7.core.init7.net (213.144.128.7) 6.3ms 3 [AS1299] zch-b1-link.telia.net (213.248.96.45) 6.5ms 4 [AS1299] ffm-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.65.41) 12.1ms 5 [AS1299] ffm-b2-link.telia.net (80.91.249.194) 14.5ms 6 [AS3356] ge-6-13.car2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.111.101) 14.6ms 7 [AS3356] ae-0-53.bbr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net (4.68.118.65) 3398.5/3402.7ms 8 [AS3356] so-1-0-0.mpls2.Geneva1.Level3.net (212.187.128.245) 3406.1/3414.9ms 9 [AS3356] so-10-0.hsa2.Geneva1.Level3.net (4.68.125.182) 3410.9/3408.9ms 10 [AS3356] 213.242.73.150 3385.8/3408.4ms 11 [AS6730] 195.141.35.3 3395.9/3403.3ms 12 [AS6730] gi0-1.ber08d01.sunrise.ch (195.141.225.222) 3391.5/3389.5ms 13 * [AS6730] 195.141.3.14 3387.2ms 14 [AS6730] [target] business.sunrise.ch (195.141.106.101):80 3381.2ms Any explanation? F.

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Swindle? (Betrug)
by Fabrice La Farina 22 Sep '06

22 Sep '06

Hello Has someone already heard over the Registrar www.europadomainregistrierung.com ? I think it makes financial fraud. I have customer that become phone and they makes pressure to buy domains? I not found any prices or a online registation formular. An i can't find it under http://www.internic.com/regist.html Thanky you for more Informations. With best regards, Fabrice La Farina Services / Geraeteinformatiker Astaro Certified Engineer ______________________________ IFE Informatikpartner AG Luzernstrasse 13 CH-4552 Derendingen T: +41 (0) 32 682 16 72 F: +41 (0) 32 682 01 73 VoIP: +41 (0) 32 510 26 72 sip:41325102672@sip.backbone.ch fabrice.lafarina(a)ifeip.ch http://www.ifeip.ch/

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AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?
by Mike Kellenberger 22 Sep '06

22 Sep '06

Hey cool, my packets to our server at init7 as a cablecom customer travel from winterthur over half europe to zürich now :-( Tracing route to r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.10.1 2 * 7 ms 7 ms 62-2-80-229.static.cablecom.ch [62.2.80.229] 3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 10.219.224.1 4 32 ms * * ch-gva01a-ra1-ge-1-1-0.aorta.net [213.46.171.53] 5 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms ch-gva01a-ra1-ge-1-1-0.aorta.net [213.46.171.53] 6 40 ms 39 ms 42 ms nl-ams01a-rd1-ge-4-1.aorta.net [213.46.160.25] 7 40 ms 42 ms 40 ms fr-par03a-rd1-ge-4-0.aorta.net [213.46.163.82] 8 44 ms 41 ms 57 ms fr-par03a-ra1-ge-0-0-0_0.aorta.net [213.46.163.9 0] 9 41 ms 41 ms 42 ms prs-b2-geth6-1.telia.net [213.248.70.37] 10 42 ms 54 ms 41 ms prs-bb2-pos7-1-0.telia.net [213.248.65.225] 11 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms ffm-bb2-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.118] 12 63 ms 61 ms 61 ms zch-b1-pos2-0.telia.net [213.248.65.170] 13 40 ms 43 ms 40 ms init-113677-zch-b1.c.telia.net [213.248.96.46] 14 41 ms 42 ms 41 ms r4.core.init7.net [213.144.128.4] 15 43 ms 46 ms 44 ms r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] Trace complete. Freundliche Grüsse -- Mike Kellenberger mike.kellenberger(a)escapenet.ch Escapenet - the Web Company Tel +41 52 235 0700 http://www.escapenet.ch Skype mikek70atwork -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Nik Hug Gesendet: Freitag, 22. September 2006 08:26 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues? Good Morning [..] > It is a general thing. I would have thought swiss ISPs > buying a bit more selective based on rtt and peering being > local or close by. Disclaimers apply left and right, for > you know who I am etc. But I am really surprised, believe > it or not. yes we do care about rtt - but we can't ignore the prices. it's the usual trade-off :-( If you have to pay twice the price for peering transit as for full transit the decision is clear - at least from my point of view. > Think about it this way - before there were 2 ISPs you had > with 'interesting' domestic peering policies. Now you have > three... I could bet with you these three do not react so > much about traffic over their upstream unless it is some > 500m sustained...? I speak of experience, in a way [..] in the past it showed, that this "bad" domestic peering policies even brought customers to our network. You can very well explain the peering policy of a big domestic ISP to your own customers and earn their sympathy and support. Regards Nik _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?
by Mike Kellenberger 22 Sep '06

22 Sep '06

looks better from home (leunet -> cablecom) Tracing route to r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 7 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.32.0.1 3 8 ms 10 ms 12 ms 212.203.33.62 4 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms gig-4-3-719.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net [62.2.154. 241] 5 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms swissix-glb.init7.net [194.242.34.3] 6 18 ms 12 ms 14 ms r4.core.init7.net [213.144.128.4] 7 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] Trace complete. funny that the cablecom business access is so much worse than a cheap private access... :-( Freundliche Grüsse -- Mike Kellenberger mike.kellenberger(a)escapenet.ch Escapenet - the Web Company Tel +41 52 235 0700 http://www.escapenet.ch Skype mikek70atwork -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Mike Kellenberger Gesendet: Freitag, 22. September 2006 08:37 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues? Hey cool, my packets to our server at init7 as a cablecom customer travel from winterthur over half europe to zürich now :-( Tracing route to r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.10.1 2 * 7 ms 7 ms 62-2-80-229.static.cablecom.ch [62.2.80.229] 3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 10.219.224.1 4 32 ms * * ch-gva01a-ra1-ge-1-1-0.aorta.net [213.46.171.53] 5 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms ch-gva01a-ra1-ge-1-1-0.aorta.net [213.46.171.53] 6 40 ms 39 ms 42 ms nl-ams01a-rd1-ge-4-1.aorta.net [213.46.160.25] 7 40 ms 42 ms 40 ms fr-par03a-rd1-ge-4-0.aorta.net [213.46.163.82] 8 44 ms 41 ms 57 ms fr-par03a-ra1-ge-0-0-0_0.aorta.net [213.46.163.9 0] 9 41 ms 41 ms 42 ms prs-b2-geth6-1.telia.net [213.248.70.37] 10 42 ms 54 ms 41 ms prs-bb2-pos7-1-0.telia.net [213.248.65.225] 11 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms ffm-bb2-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.65.118] 12 63 ms 61 ms 61 ms zch-b1-pos2-0.telia.net [213.248.65.170] 13 40 ms 43 ms 40 ms init-113677-zch-b1.c.telia.net [213.248.96.46] 14 41 ms 42 ms 41 ms r4.core.init7.net [213.144.128.4] 15 43 ms 46 ms 44 ms r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] Trace complete. Freundliche Grüsse -- Mike Kellenberger mike.kellenberger(a)escapenet.ch Escapenet - the Web Company Tel +41 52 235 0700 http://www.escapenet.ch Skype mikek70atwork -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Nik Hug Gesendet: Freitag, 22. September 2006 08:26 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues? Good Morning [..] > It is a general thing. I would have thought swiss ISPs > buying a bit more selective based on rtt and peering being > local or close by. Disclaimers apply left and right, for > you know who I am etc. But I am really surprised, believe > it or not. yes we do care about rtt - but we can't ignore the prices. it's the usual trade-off :-( If you have to pay twice the price for peering transit as for full transit the decision is clear - at least from my point of view. > Think about it this way - before there were 2 ISPs you had > with 'interesting' domestic peering policies. Now you have > three... I could bet with you these three do not react so > much about traffic over their upstream unless it is some > 500m sustained...? I speak of experience, in a way [..] in the past it showed, that this "bad" domestic peering policies even brought customers to our network. You can very well explain the peering policy of a big domestic ISP to your own customers and earn their sympathy and support. Regards Nik _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Internet Security at hack.lu
by Yann Berthier 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

Dear swinogers, As you may know, hack.lu will be held on 19-21 oct - what you may not know is that, on the first day, we set up an Internet Security track, with great speakers (Nicolas Fischbach of fame, Peter Haag, Bruno de Troch on Flow Spec, Henning Brauer, Michael H. Behringer, Benoit Claise). See http://www.hack.lu/index.php/InternetSecurity for more details The rest of the conference should interest you as well, with Wietse Venema, Daniel Karrenberg, and many other great speakers and great subjects (IPTV Security, Broadcasting by Misuse of Satellite ISPs, IPv6 Security and insecurity, ...) So, if you want to see top-notch speakers on your subjects of choice, in a "fun and relaxed atmosphere", in a location close to switzerland, hack.lu is the place to go ! Thanks, - yann, on behalf of the hack.lu team

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Providers supporting TLS (for SMTP, POP, IMAP, ...)?
by Matthias Leisi 18 Sep '06

18 Sep '06

Hi all, The subject says it all: do you know which providers support TLS (the technology formerly known as SSL) for SMTP, POP and/or IMAP for their residential or small-office dialup/broadband customers? If you are a provider yourself and you do not offer it: Are there particular reasons? Is it a conscious decision not to offer it or is it that just nobody asked yet? Thanks, -- Matthias

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job offer: webdeveloper
by Elias Wittwer 13 Sep '06

13 Sep '06

hi, if somebody has interest: we looking for a webdeveloper who has strong skills in (x)html, css and all the w3c standards, php, mysql, python. informations and the assessment test: http://www.hostpoint.ch/company.php?subCatID=CAFI8 greets eli

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SwiNOG #13 - save the date
by Fredy Kuenzler 11 Sep '06

11 Sep '06

Dear all, SwiNOG #13 is approaching - Wednesday, Nov 1st, 2006. Same place - http://www.altestramdepot.ch/ Please save the date. Main Sponsor: http://www.agilent.com/ Infos and registration will follow. Please consider giving a presentation - send suggestions to swinog-core(a)swinog.ch - thanks. For the Core Team, Fredy

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