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ahhh feel much better
by Zorg 421 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

we'll have chicken tomorrow at noon.I was anxious that it would be otherwise. (I already miss the spaghettis...)

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SwiNOG #17 debriefing ... and Pingsta, jittered.
by Fredy Kuenzler 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

Dear all, Thanks everybody for attending SwiNOG #17, I hope you consider it a successful gathering like me. Unfortunately the people from Pingsta couldn't make it to Berne, we got the following email from Peter, CEO of Pingsta: > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Re: [swinog-core] SwiNOG-17 - Pingsta Team Stuck in Paris en > Route Bern > Datum: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:05:20 -0700 (PDT) > Von: Peter Alfred-Adekeye > > Dear Paschal, Fredy, Nicole & Michel, > > Due to circumstances beyond our control, we are stuck in Paris en > route Bern and unless a miracle happens, we would most likely not be > able to get to Bern on time today. As such, would it be possible to > deliver my speech over skype video instead? If no, I guess we may > have to reschedule the Pingsta presentation to SwiNOG 18 or 19? > > Once again, please accept our sincere apologies for the rather short > notice. In the meantime, please feel free to give away the Pingsta > T-shrts and wish the entire SwiNOG team and participants well for us. > > Danke > Peter :( > > Peter Alfred-Adekeye > CEO, Pingsta Peter: thanks for the explanation, we have been a bit surprised and disapointed that you couldn't make it - unfortunately your mail was read only after the gathering ... we enjoyed the early beer and ignored waiting emails ;-) ... nevermind, packets sometimes arrive with latency, get lost or show up jittered. The Pingsta t-shirts in fact made it right on time to Berne and nevertheless got distributed to the crowd ... many thanks! We are happy to reserve a slot in the upcoming SwiNOG #18 in Spring 2009, but at this time we don't have a scheduled date. Please make sure that you are subscribed to the SwiNOG list that you don't miss the announcement. Best regards ... until SwiNOG #18! Fredy Künzler SwiNOG Core Team

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SwiNOG Mailing List Policy Change
by Steven Glogger 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

hi everyone we've voted at todays SwiNOG meeting for a policy change of the mailinglist-reply-functionality. as per today when you clicked on 'reply' the recipient-to has been set to swinog(a)swinog.ch (aka back to the mailing list). at the vote today the majority of the voters requested that this will be changed to the sender of the originating email. so, it will be changed now. so, please ensure for the future, that IF you want to reply back to the list that the mailing-list is getting the email ,-) greetings -steven

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swisscom xdsl outage 041 area since 14:15 ?
by vito 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

hi since 14:15 we have many xdsl customers there are offline --> 041 area any info ? thx Vito

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SwiNOG-17 (details for tomorrow)
by Steven Glogger 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

hi folks some information for SwiNOG-17: Application Fee: ================ let me remind you that you have to take the CHF 35.- lunch fee with you and we are NOT giving back change. if you're not sure wether you're registered or not, check the registration page: http://www.spale.com/cgi-bin/swinogreg Le Menu aka Food: ================= so, the menu is already defined - you might make up your mind and tell us at the welcome desk which menu you like. the choice is: Non-Vegetarian: --------------- Salad *** Poulet-Cordon bleu (stuffed with Ham and Cheese) with fried potatoes *** Ice Cream Vegetarian: ----------- Salad *** Tagliarini (Noodles / Pasta) with peproncini, tomatoes, onion, garlic, parsley and parmesan. *** Ice Cream Agenda: ======= as usual you can find the updated agenda on the website: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog17/swinog17_agenda-txt.txt Wireless LAN: ============= Free WLAN access for all participants will be available at SwiNOG 17: * 10 MBit/s Internet connectivity * Use DHCP for the ip assignement * Open WLAN without encryption * SSID: SwinogPublic You're responsible for the security of your laptop. Remember that we've got always some guys sniffing the network... see you then ,) greetings -steven

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SwiNOG 17 Meeting: IPv6 connectivity
by Erich Hohermuth 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Dear SwiNOG 17 meeting attendants, Cause of the cooperation between NTS (Wireless Sponsor) and SolNet we are proud to announce IPv6 connectivity by tomorrow. If someone is interested in a direct native IPv6 peering [1] just drop an email to peering(a)solnet.ch. Regards Erich [1] Supported Locations are: Swissix, TIX, CiXP, DeCix, LINX -- * Erich Hohermuth IP Engineer - SolNet (AS 9044) PGPKEY-46A08FCB * * phone: +41 32 517 6220 / sip:9044*463@inoc-dba.pch.net *

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Re: [swinog] RBL's (again) (Was: Anyone from Green here?)
by Stanislav Sinyagin 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

> Greylisting only delays mails. Proper spammers just use ISP relays and > then they will try forever. Or they will just nicely do the full SMTP > thing for the first message and try again later, or stall sending to you > as the 450 is recognized and spam run you again later. So many easy ways > around it and it only causes annoyance. I don't know anything about proper spammers. Greylisting has reduced the amount of incoming spam significantly, probably at 90-95%. Of course there are spambots which play around greylisting, but they aren't yet that widely used. > On top of that, I guess you have whitelisted large mail providers like > gmail who try to send a single mail from several IP's, thus hitting your > greylist over and over again, and then just giving up? :) some greylisting packages have their whitelists already pre-filled in the distribution package, so it works quite well (we used http://policyd.sourceforge.net/ , and I have no complaints about this software, and neither do the users.

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Re: [swinog] high delay with icmp
by Philippe Strauss 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:51:28AM +0200, Adrian Kägi wrote: > Hmmm, i think it was/is (!) a fault from cc... > I started a trouble ticket. (!) google is probably using some form of anycast. (I would personnaly travel much more if crossing the atlantic had a cost of 50ms :-) -- Philippe Strauss http://philou.ch

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Re: [swinog] high delay with icmp
by Steven.Glogger＠swisscom.com 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

nope, no clue... i've not seen any issues or got any alarms. maybe cablecom had (again?) bandwidth issues? -steven -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Adrian Kägi Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:38 AM To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] high delay with icmp The accessibility to www.google.com and a lot of other web sites, was yesterday the whole "very" slow! Icmp from Sunday 2008-10-19 18.00 Antwort von 209.85.135.103: Bytes=32 Zeit=121ms TTL=242 Antwort von 209.85.135.103: Bytes=32 Zeit=117ms TTL=242 Antwort von 209.85.135.103: Bytes=32 Zeit=118ms TTL=242 Antwort von 209.85.135.103: Bytes=32 Zeit=119ms TTL=242 Traceroute: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms . [192.168.10.1] 2 7 ms 6 ms 7 ms 10.14.0.1 3 7 ms 9 ms 8 ms tr-1430019570.zapp.ch [213.213.160.65] 4 7 ms 7 ms 14 ms 108-160-213-213.static.zapp.ch [213.213.160.108] 5 9 ms 10 ms 8 ms 62-2-42-33.static.cablecom.ch [62.2.42.33] 6 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms ch-zrh01a-ra1-ge-1-1-0.aorta.net [213.46.171.49] 7 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms tix.net.google.com [194.42.48.58] 8 110 ms 110 ms 120 ms 64.233.174.34 9 118 ms 120 ms 126 ms 72.14.238.128 10 116 ms 122 ms 118 ms 209.85.241.189 11 127 ms 130 ms 124 ms 209.85.253.26 12 120 ms 119 ms 120 ms www.google.com [209.85.135.147] Icmp from today 2008-10-20 08:30 Antwort von 209.85.135.99: Bytes=32 Zeit=23ms TTL=243 Antwort von 209.85.135.99: Bytes=32 Zeit=22ms TTL=243 Antwort von 209.85.135.99: Bytes=32 Zeit=21ms TTL=243 Antwort von 209.85.135.99: Bytes=32 Zeit=20ms TTL=243 Any known problems?? Best regards! Adrian _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Open position @IP+
by Andre Chapuis 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

Hi, http://www.swisscom.com/SCMCMS/Scripts/PopupJobEngine.aspx?frameurl=https:/… b_search?sap-wd-configId=ZAPPLWI_UNREG Search for: CBU-50315754 André ------------------------------ André Chapuis Swisscom IP-Plus Genfergasse 14 3050 Berne +41 31 342 40 74 chapuis(a)ip-plus.net CCIE #6023 ------------------------------

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