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JANOG's English Page Updated
by Masaru AKAI 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

Dear SwiNOG Colleagues, We have updated JANOG (Japan Network Operators' Group) English wiki page. Recent additions include presentation titles and abstracts for the JANOG22 meeting, which was held July 2008. You can view the contents via the link below. http://www.janog.gr.jp/en/index.php?JANOG22%20Programs For us to bring better content, your comments and feedbacks are greatly appreciated. Regards, Masaru AKAI, for JANOG i18n Team

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Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
by Stanislav Sinyagin 10 Oct '08

10 Oct '08

> From: Andre Timmermann <andre.timmermann(a)nine.ch> > Am Mittwoch, den 08.10.2008, 03:55 -0700 schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin: > > yes, Venty, everyone wants to know what you talk about in your > > private communications. > > Yihaaa, the *****ng "I don't have anything to hide"-statement. nope, it's the other thing: If I need to hide something, I use the right tools :) so, if I go once and buy 1000 paper knives, I will not pay by my plastic card and won't use any Supercard or Cumulus :-)

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Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
by Scott Weeks 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

--- roger(a)mgz.ch wrote: at least it prooved the ML is still alive, and not so slow as some mentioned ;-) we got 3 days nanog feeling, who cares ? if someone like an idling list.. we maybe could create idle(a)swinog.ch, and to make shure there is no accidentaly traffic setting this list to moderated this would be even helpfull for all the autoresponder fan's ----------------------------- I enjoyed reading it all. It put a smile on my face several times. One day, I want to do a beer event with you guys, but since it's 12,277 kilometers (7628 miles) there: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/distanceresult.html?p1=103&p2=268 It'll probably be a very long time until that happens... ;-) scott

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IRC Server dead ?
by roger＠mgz.ch 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

irc.swinog.ch is not reachable via bluewin irc.subcult.ch telling me after connect checking ident .. found your hostname .. and then stays like that whats happen ? Roger

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Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
by Stanislav Sinyagin 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) ----- Original Message ---- > From: Boris Meyer <boris(a)imp.ch> > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:51:20 PM > Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ? > > > PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at: > http://irc.subcult.ch > > As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX > > is at the moment only reachable by its peers. > > > > We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the > > mean time eiher use another server of the mesh or have a > > SwissIX-connected ISP ;). > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
by Stanislav Sinyagin 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

yes, Venty, everyone wants to know what you talk about in your private communications. don't be silly, just use it as any other public communication platform, be it Gmail or internet forums. If you need to transport sensitive data, use secure channels for it. If you need to communicate to few hundred of your contacts, there's not much alternative, because most of them use skype anyway. ----- Original Message ---- > From: Martin Ebnoether <ventilator(a)semmel.ch> > > > Skype is like MSN Messenger, just another ugly overloaded communication > > > tool. if I have to choose between skype and MSN, it's MSN, because there > > > are a lot of opensource and freeware alternatives to the bad Live > > > Messenger from Microschrott, ah Microsoft... :-) > > > > Well, it might be ugly, but at least it works in almost every situation. > > If it would not, they could not sniff into other peoples private > communications.

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Re: [swinog] Embedded Linux practicing
by julien mabillard 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

There was an interesting project compiling mobile technologies applied in Japan with NetBSD: Nemo[1] [1] http://2007.asiabsdcon.org/papers/P01-paper.pdf --

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open source patch to coop and migros
by Zorg 421 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

I'm very much involved in the scene of goumoens-la-ville (doing theatre) and I must admit I don't write enough patches.The first real pride of mine in this area was fixing, well, not really, almost beeing able to fix a bug in... the linux kernel (waouw, tremendous!). it was about a kernel lockup when booting on some hardware. I've spent one night a one day investing, adding printk, recompiling, rebooting, pressing the reset button. it was in the keyboard driver (rocket science, the keyboard driver). Almost came with a patch (after some guidance from some genuinely nice folks on the LK mailing-list) to notice that when connecting both the mouse and the keyboard, not just the keyboard, the problem was solved (ohhh shit almost became famous). I threw away my patch, plugged the mouse, swallowed my pride, and, well, life is not too bad like this either.

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Migros and coop privacy violence
by roger＠mgz.ch 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

> On the Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:26:37AM -0700, Stanislav Sinyagin blubbered: > > Hi. > > > going to compile anything on my desktop anyway. And if it collects any marketing > > stats, so what, everyone is doing that, and we're helping them (Coop Supercard > > for example). There's nothing bad about companies knowing better what I might > > buy from them :-) well would be not surprised when in a DB scan they recognizing you as single buying so much .. they think your making business with it, and noticing the tax department. or like a neighbour .. he got sued to throw liter in ilegal bags .. because they verifyed the list of items he was buying .. found a receipt with his name .. and they got him .. but as the letter arrived he was just back from holiday, and all the items where still in his house but they didnt accept that > Well... > Actually, the Supercard (and the Cumulus as well) are quite easy > to "exploit" and throw a monkey wrench up Coops and Migros > database. > > I have both cards but I share them with my parents. That is one > thing, one can do, share the card. > > Then, I don't have the card with me all of the time. (In fact I > do have them with me, but oh well...). In that case, if the > grandma before or after me has a card, I just ask her if she > wants my Cumulus points on her account. Sure they do, classical > win-win situation. She is happy, Migros database is confused > (what does the 90 year old lady buys beer, CD-Rs and condoms > for?) and the clerk won't mind anyway. > > This also works the other way. If someone at the checkout does > not have a card, why not ask them, if you can have their points > on your account? Just ask nicely, most people without a card > won't mind. Another win-win situation here. > > For your listening pleasure, download the Privacy song: > http://three-dead-trolls-in-a-baggie-the-privac-mp3-download.kohit.net/_/61… > > CU, Venty > > -- > What we're planning here is World Domination! > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --- Ende der weitergeleiteten Nachricht / End of forwarded message ---

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Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
by Stanislav Sinyagin 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

> From: Martin Ebnoether <ventilator(a)semmel.ch> > All that is needed to take Skype down is an automatic windows > update of some thousand computers. > > Remember last summer? > http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070819 hey Venty, long time no see :) if you remember, back in 2003-2004 there were viruses which knocked down hundreds of thousands of windows PCs. So what, we're still using that :) If the tool serves my needs, I don't really care if it's open source - I'm not going to compile anything on my desktop anyway. And if it collects any marketing stats, so what, everyone is doing that, and we're helping them (Coop Supercard for example). There's nothing bad about companies knowing better what I might buy from them :-)

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