Hello everybody!
Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was holiday season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin purposes, nonetheless I see some importance in this topic nowadays. And we have something interesting to say about it. So Im taking the freedom to post another "commercial message" on this.
I been in the hosting-market for 16 yrs now, mostly as an independent and with pretty good projects. I saw the market go from diversivied into a huge consolidation with a shrinking market volume. Nowadays I am the head of Tecnostore Group (http://www.tecnostore-group.com), a small company with about a dozen nerds in .ch and .in. TSgroup is selling its own SaaS products at http://www.dasprivacy.com, but also provides infrastructure, mostly as whitelabel to companies and some providers. About a week ago we launched this services for the public at http://www.cleartier.com (Our pages arent that gr8, but come on, v r techies not designers)
The reason Im writing this is our cleartier architecture: We can run it zone-based in multiple locations. Currently we have three zones: One in Delhi, and two in Switzerland. Inside each zone we can put up small virtual datacenters for our customers (up to 50 hosts, virtual. Physical on Demand). This is very popular mostly with ISVs to run SaaS-Products. As our business is picking up speed, we are looking for partners, and like to present various business cases for people on this list.
For Hosting-Providers that are pretty small, and have other main revenue streams (e.g. renting Broadcast Equipment): - Bring down your cost by moving into the ClearZones Virtual Datacenter. - Lower the administration footprint by leaving monitoring & management to us. - Keep your brand and your customers by doing only first level & billing. - With the Physical to Virtual migration techniques, you can even move your current setups into our virtual datacenter. - If you want to migrate to a newer infrastructure, we can provide you a up-to-date technology hosting setup (Ubuntu 12.04 based).
For Line-Access Providers, Datacenter Owners and such: - As a Line-Access provider you can provide added value to your customers by running a ClearZone Inhouse. - We feature a lot of turnkey solutions and setups and we take over the management. - As a datacenter owner, you can provide a ClearZone with your overhead hardware. - We are looking to resell our services and some services of our ISV-Customers through the channels of current ISPs.
So long story short: There are a lot of business opportunities also for smaller providers, theres no need to make a frown guys.
You can reach us at: - service@tecnostore-group.com - 041 312 13 91 (Lukas Meyer, CEO) - 041 312 13 92 (Peter Hethely, System Engineering)
We look forward to get in touch with you.
Regards
L. Meyer
Am 02.08.12 13:26, schrieb Xaver Aerni:
Hello, My office is two a small ISP. We have less than 50 Hostingclinets. If we would have to live them we would have a problem. I think that we will outsource somme service in the Future like e-Mail... etc. We have beginn with the ISP Services in Year 1996. At this time was the Price for a Hosting Fr. 80.-- or more. Today, you will pay for the same Service by a Serferfarm for Fr. 5.-- till 25.--. In fact. You make less money. And must pay more for the infrastructure. I would also calculate a my work, then the loss would be a lot higher. At the Moment we make the money with renting Broadcast Equipment. The ISP Part will financed whit this buissness. Thats is fact. And I don't think this will be better in the future. Greetings Xaver
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Von:* swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] *Im Auftrag von *chris burri *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 2. August 2012 03:49 *An:* swinog@swinog.ch *Betreff:* [swinog] Calling all stations! To whom it may concern: Starting from zero and nowhere plus an old computer, I've spent the last few Months since September 2011 in St. Gallen, building a small but steady ISP operation supporting close to 30 active customers as of right now. At my business' core, a remarkable web of ideas. Entirely founded on a rather ingenious prepaid-everything-everywhere philosophy, aiming for no less than total evasion from last-mile stranglehold and reseller slavery in particular and other, potentially unhealthy dependencies in general while reaching far beyond "just" telecommunications, into financial services and more. Much of this glorious plan has been condensed down from my brains into a paper, covering 86 pages A4 already. Some people would literally kill to get their hands on those pages, they just don't know yet... But gladly, there's no need to send a hitman! I'll let you read the entire thing if you sign me an NDA or hire me on the spot. I've evaluated the basics, considered the law, estimated the cost, implemented a network, set up a pilot, demonstrated the principle functioning in a live environment, devised products for the market and -in virtually no time- started attracting customers, making money since March 2012. Everything was looking just fine and very promising and I've been busy preparing the next steps: getting admission as an "FDA", just before hiring a handful of motivated people to get things moving swift on a larger scale. We were about to start rumbling the neighbourhood, if not the entire city and more! As it turns out, I've relied on the wrong people to do business with and back this up - Now, everything appears to be going down the drain, anytime soon. Because....my operation is yet about 10 times too small in terms of customers to survive by itself (aka pay for the running costs and allowing myself a humble salary for shelter, food and living a rather simple life), I've been trying to find fresh capital to support expansion as planned. Alas, in vain so far. So little time, way too little time - And that little time's about to run out. So...uh... I could use a little HELP over here. An Angel investor, perhaps? A "friendly takeover" by another ISP? An offer for a decent job? While I bring my customers, my brains and -likely- my plans with me? All your questions, suggestions and considerations are very-most welcome off-list. I'm open to your ideas. This is a chance. I just don't want to succumb and give in! Serenely Chris Burri Informatiker EFZ --- "To do is to be" - Socrates// "To be is to do" - Sartre//"Dobedobedoo" - Sinatra ------------------------------------------------------------------------ E-Mail ist virenfrei. Von AVG überprüft - www.avg.de <http://www.avg.de> Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virendatenbank: 2437/5169 - Ausgabedatum: 01.08.2012
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 12:47:09 +0200 "Lukas Meyer (TSG Codebase)" lukas@codebase.ch wrote:
Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was holiday season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin purposes, [...]
[...] but I think I'm a so awesome guy, that I can ignore the purpose of such a mailinglist and spam it. You can call me chuck norris.
Best regards from my drug dealer Luke
Dear Lukas
I guess it's not a coincidence, that you're trying to sell something to this list, just after the "call for sponsors" for SwiNOG 25 has gone out.
It's just that: Next time, please send your sponsoring application to swinog-core, not to the technical discussion lists.
Kind regards, Viktor
On 23.08.2012 12:47, Lukas Meyer (TSG Codebase) wrote:
Hello everybody!
Its been a while since the last activity on this thread, it was holiday season. Im aware that this list is usually for admin purposes, nonetheless I see some importance in this topic nowadays. And we have something interesting to say about it. So Im taking the freedom to post another "commercial message" on this.
I been in the hosting-market for 16 yrs now, mostly as an independent and with pretty good projects. I saw the market go from diversivied into a huge consolidation with a shrinking market volume. Nowadays I am the head of Tecnostore Group (http://www.tecnostore-group.com), a small company with about a dozen nerds in .ch and .in. TSgroup is selling its own SaaS products at http://www.dasprivacy.com, but also provides infrastructure, mostly as whitelabel to companies and some providers. About a week ago we launched this services for the public at http://www.cleartier.com (Our pages arent that gr8, but come on, v r techies not designers)
The reason Im writing this is our cleartier architecture: We can run it zone-based in multiple locations. Currently we have three zones: One in Delhi, and two in Switzerland. Inside each zone we can put up small virtual datacenters for our customers (up to 50 hosts, virtual. Physical on Demand). This is very popular mostly with ISVs to run SaaS-Products. As our business is picking up speed, we are looking for partners, and like to present various business cases for people on this list.
For Hosting-Providers that are pretty small, and have other main revenue streams (e.g. renting Broadcast Equipment):
- Bring down your cost by moving into the ClearZones Virtual Datacenter.
- Lower the administration footprint by leaving monitoring &
management to us.
- Keep your brand and your customers by doing only first level & billing.
- With the Physical to Virtual migration techniques, you can even move
your current setups into our virtual datacenter.
- If you want to migrate to a newer infrastructure, we can provide you
a up-to-date technology hosting setup (Ubuntu 12.04 based).
For Line-Access Providers, Datacenter Owners and such:
- As a Line-Access provider you can provide added value to your
customers by running a ClearZone Inhouse.
- We feature a lot of turnkey solutions and setups and we take over
the management.
- As a datacenter owner, you can provide a ClearZone with your
overhead hardware.
- We are looking to resell our services and some services of our
ISV-Customers through the channels of current ISPs.
So long story short: There are a lot of business opportunities also for smaller providers, theres no need to make a frown guys.
You can reach us at:
- service@tecnostore-group.com
- 041 312 13 91 (Lukas Meyer, CEO)
- 041 312 13 92 (Peter Hethely, System Engineering)
We look forward to get in touch with you.
Regards
L. Meyer
Am 02.08.12 13:26, schrieb Xaver Aerni:
Hello, My office is two a small ISP. We have less than 50 Hostingclinets. If we would have to live them we would have a problem. I think that we will outsource somme service in the Future like e-Mail... etc. We have beginn with the ISP Services in Year 1996. At this time was the Price for a Hosting Fr. 80.-- or more. Today, you will pay for the same Service by a Serferfarm for Fr. 5.-- till 25.--. In fact. You make less money. And must pay more for the infrastructure. I would also calculate a my work, then the loss would be a lot higher. At the Moment we make the money with renting Broadcast Equipment. The ISP Part will financed whit this buissness. Thats is fact. And I don't think this will be better in the future. Greetings Xaver
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Von:* swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] *Im Auftrag von *chris burri *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 2. August 2012 03:49 *An:* swinog@swinog.ch *Betreff:* [swinog] Calling all stations! To whom it may concern: Starting from zero and nowhere plus an old computer, I've spent the last few Months since September 2011 in St. Gallen, building a small but steady ISP operation supporting close to 30 active customers as of right now. At my business' core, a remarkable web of ideas. Entirely founded on a rather ingenious prepaid-everything-everywhere philosophy, aiming for no less than total evasion from last-mile stranglehold and reseller slavery in particular and other, potentially unhealthy dependencies in general while reaching far beyond "just" telecommunications, into financial services and more. Much of this glorious plan has been condensed down from my brains into a paper, covering 86 pages A4 already. Some people would literally kill to get their hands on those pages, they just don't know yet... But gladly, there's no need to send a hitman! I'll let you read the entire thing if you sign me an NDA or hire me on the spot. I've evaluated the basics, considered the law, estimated the cost, implemented a network, set up a pilot, demonstrated the principle functioning in a live environment, devised products for the market and -in virtually no time- started attracting customers, making money since March 2012. Everything was looking just fine and very promising and I've been busy preparing the next steps: getting admission as an "FDA", just before hiring a handful of motivated people to get things moving swift on a larger scale. We were about to start rumbling the neighbourhood, if not the entire city and more! As it turns out, I've relied on the wrong people to do business with and back this up - Now, everything appears to be going down the drain, anytime soon. Because....my operation is yet about 10 times too small in terms of customers to survive by itself (aka pay for the running costs and allowing myself a humble salary for shelter, food and living a rather simple life), I've been trying to find fresh capital to support expansion as planned. Alas, in vain so far. So little time, way too little time - And that little time's about to run out. So...uh... I could use a little HELP over here. An Angel investor, perhaps? A "friendly takeover" by another ISP? An offer for a decent job? While I bring my customers, my brains and -likely- my plans with me? All your questions, suggestions and considerations are very-most welcome off-list. I'm open to your ideas. This is a chance. I just don't want to succumb and give in! Serenely Chris Burri Informatiker EFZ --- "To do is to be" - Socrates// "To be is to do" - Sartre//"Dobedobedoo" - Sinatra ------------------------------------------------------------------------ E-Mail ist virenfrei. Von AVG überprüft - www.avg.de <http://www.avg.de> Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virendatenbank: 2437/5169 - Ausgabedatum: 01.08.2012
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