OSI Layer 10 hat wieder zugeschlagen... Sorry for any inconvinience, but the "Tepichetage" still does not understand the Internet, in contrary, it's getting worse and worse...
Christian
-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler Sent: Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 20:05 Cc: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Re: Peering Sunrise<>Cablecom lausig
Reto Koch wrote:
Sind wir ins Mittelalter zurückgefallen?
Es scheint so ...
Sunrise scheint neuerdings mit Cablecom über DECIX und Sprintlink zu peeren. Was soll dieser sinnlose Umweg, weiss jemand genaueres? Bis vor einigen Wochen gab es ein direktes Peering.
... 4 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 212.161.164.38 5 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms g0-1.fra01s01.sunrise.ch [195.141.240.218] 6 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms sl-gw20-fra-2-2.sprintlink.net [217.147.97.109] 7 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms sl-bb21-fra-9-0.sprintlink.net [217.147.96.226] 8 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms sl-bb20-par-14-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.65] 9 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms sl-bb20-zur-15-1.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.128 10 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms sl-gw10-zur-14-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.8.36] 11 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms sle-cable4-1-0.sprintlink.net [80.93.9.22] 12 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms pos-14-0.blxZHZ002.bb.cablecom.net [62.2.4.234] 13 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms tengig-2-4.mlrZHZ006.gw.cablecom.net [62.2.33.2] ...
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Kuster, Christian wrote:
OSI Layer 10 hat wieder zugeschlagen... Sorry for any inconvinience, but the "Tepichetage" still does not understand the Internet, in contrary, it's getting worse and worse...
Christian, you are brave. You shouldn't bite the hand which is feeding you.
Maybe we should establish a Teppich-Etage-Exchange ;-P
F.
"Kuster, Christian" wrote:
OSI Layer 10 hat wieder zugeschlagen... Sorry for any inconvinience, but the "Tepichetage" still does not understand the Internet, in contrary, it's getting worse and worse...
And most interesting is that Cablecom has surpassed Sunrise a long time ago with regard to eyeballs. Last September Bluewin/IP-Plus had about 38% share, Cablecom 20% and Sunrise 13.7%. Some people at Sunrise seem to have a hard time accepting they are no longer number two in Switzerland. By the way, Cablecom is still growing IP traffic market share. Now the most interesting question is if you can guess who comes after Sunrise and with how many percent?
OSI Layer 10 hat wieder zugeschlagen... Sorry for any inconvinience, but the "Tepichetage" still does not understand the Internet, in contrary, it's getting worse and worse...
And most interesting is that Cablecom has surpassed Sunrise a long time ago with regard to eyeballs. Last September Bluewin/IP-Plus had about 38% share, Cablecom 20% and Sunrise 13.7%. Some people at Sunrise seem to have a hard time accepting they are no longer number two in Switzerland. By the way, Cablecom is still growing IP traffic market share. Now the most interesting question is if you can guess who comes after Sunrise and with how many percent?
Andre, what are those figures based on? ADSL lines, Mbps per sec on public graphs, secret handshakes, glow of the moon? I've heard so many different versions of the Swiss market share that I'm quite curious as to how you calculate this.
Thomas
Thomas Kernen wrote:
OSI Layer 10 hat wieder zugeschlagen... Sorry for any inconvinience, but the "Tepichetage" still does not understand the Internet, in contrary, it's getting worse and worse...
And most interesting is that Cablecom has surpassed Sunrise a long time ago with regard to eyeballs. Last September Bluewin/IP-Plus had about 38% share, Cablecom 20% and Sunrise 13.7%. Some people at Sunrise seem to have a hard time accepting they are no longer number two in Switzerland. By the way, Cablecom is still growing IP traffic market share. Now the most interesting question is if you can guess who comes after Sunrise and with how many percent?
Andre, what are those figures based on? ADSL lines, Mbps per sec on public graphs, secret handshakes, glow of the moon? I've heard so many different versions of the Swiss market share that I'm quite curious as to how you calculate this.
*Very* popular website in the French and German speaking part of Switzerland. Reverse mapping of user IP addresses to AS numbers. The website is predominantly used by consumers but a home and at work. This gives a pretty fair average. The percentages do not include transit customers of any ISP, only prefixes announced by those AS.
On 14-Feb-2005 Andre Oppermann wrote:
*Very* popular website in the French and German speaking part of Switzerland. Reverse mapping of user IP addresses to AS numbers.
So, if an ISP wants to be the first they just have to generate lots of page hits on that web-site?! I'm not saying your source isn't good but I wouldn't trust only that one. YMMV
Cheers Jorge
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