Dear all
Following up on my presentation on Swisscom's IPv6 plans, I can finally announce that we are ready for a public pilot of IPv6 on DSL for residential Internet access (formerly known as "bluewin"). The swinog community is happily invited, should there be Swisscom customers amongst them :-)
Please note that you'll need a router of the latest generation ("centro grande" or "centro piccolo") to participate -- the ones with the rounded casing without external WLAN antenna.
You can register for the pilot at http://ipv6test.questionpro.com. We'll then upgrade your DSL router to the IPv6-capable firmware. After the firmware upgrade, you may enable (and disable) IPv6 on the customer web portal : https://sam.sso.bluewin.ch/my/data/ModemMgmtService?mode=overview
Happy testing! Martin
Martin Gysi ___________________________________________________________________________ dipl. Ing. ETH Lausanne Senior Network Development Engineer
Phone 058 223 57 24 martin.gysi@swisscom.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Swisscom (Schweiz) AG Network & IT Network Development Binzring 17 8045 Zürich www.swisscom.chhttp://www.swisscom.ch/
On 2011-10-20 16:31 , Martin.Gysi@swisscom.com wrote:
Dear all
Following up on my presentation on Swisscom's IPv6 plans, I can finally announce that we are ready for a public pilot of IPv6 on DSL for residential Internet access (formerly known as "bluewin"). The swinog community is happily invited, should there be Swisscom customers amongst them :-)
Please note that you'll need a router of the latest generation ("centro grande" or "centro piccolo") to participate -- the ones with the rounded casing without external WLAN antenna.
What about those VDSL Netopias with disabled WLAN acting as a bridge towards a more capable box? :)
Do we get to see a presentation on how things are done at an upcoming SwiNOG?
Also, if you pass a list of IPv4 prefixes that might be eligible for this test to info@sixxs.net, I can forward this message to all the users who are using SixXS from that address space. Same goes for other ISPs who might want that of course.
Greets, Jeroen
According to Swisscom hotline, Business Internet Light users are not able to switch to Centro Grande/Centro Picolo as those routers do things different (why do we have ITU standards for DSL if no one follows them?). I would love to throw out the cheap Zyxel and do real stuff with real routers and get rid of the crap.
On 20.10.2011, at 17:04, Jeroen Massar wrote:
On 2011-10-20 16:31 , Martin.Gysi@swisscom.com wrote:
Dear all
Following up on my presentation on Swisscom's IPv6 plans, I can finally announce that we are ready for a public pilot of IPv6 on DSL for residential Internet access (formerly known as "bluewin"). The swinog community is happily invited, should there be Swisscom customers amongst them :-)
Please note that you'll need a router of the latest generation ("centro grande" or "centro piccolo") to participate -- the ones with the rounded casing without external WLAN antenna.
What about those VDSL Netopias with disabled WLAN acting as a bridge towards a more capable box? :)
Do we get to see a presentation on how things are done at an upcoming SwiNOG?
Also, if you pass a list of IPv4 prefixes that might be eligible for this test to info@sixxs.net, I can forward this message to all the users who are using SixXS from that address space. Same goes for other ISPs who might want that of course.
Greets, Jeroen
swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
On 2011-10-20 17:11 , Andreas Fink wrote:
According to Swisscom hotline, Business Internet Light users are not able to switch to Centro Grande/Centro Picolo as those routers do things different (why do we have ITU standards for DSL if no one follows them?). I would love to throw out the cheap Zyxel and do real stuff with real routers and get rid of the crap.
I have no need to switch, my nice little Netopia plays bridge quite well and thus nicely delivers a 1500 MTU Ethernet link to my box.
I guess on the Swisscom side they simply use DHCP option 82 to determine which user one is instead of doing user/pass auth ala PPP, much easier to deploy too IMHO.
Greets, Jeroen
Hello Martin,
as a Swisscom custommer, i will be pleased to test, anyway, i dont use a swisscom device (still looking foran appropriate bridge modem) to put in front of my cisco instead of the motorola modem.
Best regards,
philippe Schlumpf
On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 14:31 +0000, Martin.Gysi@swisscom.com wrote:
Dear all
Following up on my presentation on Swisscom's IPv6 plans, I can finally announce that we are ready for a public pilot of IPv6 on DSL for residential Internet access (formerly known as "bluewin"). The swinog community is happily invited, should there be Swisscom customers amongst them :-)
Please note that you'll need a router of the latest generation ("centro grande" or "centro piccolo") to participate -- the ones with the rounded casing without external WLAN antenna.
You can register for the pilot at http://ipv6test.questionpro.com.We%27ll then upgrade your DSL router to the IPv6-capable firmware. After the firmware upgrade, you may enable (and disable) IPv6 on the customer web portal : https://sam.sso.bluewin.ch/my/data/ModemMgmtService?mode=overview
Happy testing! Martin
Martin Gysi ___________________________________________________________________________ dipl. Ing. ETH Lausanne Senior Network Development Engineer
Phone 058 223 57 24 martin.gysi@swisscom.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Swisscom (Schweiz) AG Network & IT Network Development Binzring 17 8045 Zürich www.swisscom.ch
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Hi Martin,
This is good, and as ISP we are also curious to see when DHCPv6 will be available on BBCS with our own prefixes. Do you know what is the road-map for this?
Small remark, the portal below with the survey is only in German. There is also a part of the population that speaks French and Italian in Switzerland ...
Best Regards, Jerome Tissieres
2011/10/20 Martin.Gysi@swisscom.com:
Dear all
Following up on my presentation on Swisscom's IPv6 plans, I can finally announce that we are ready for a public pilot of IPv6 on DSL for residential Internet access (formerly known as "bluewin"). The swinog community is happily invited, should there be Swisscom customers amongst them :-)
Please note that you'll need a router of the latest generation ("centro grande" or "centro piccolo") to participate -- the ones with the rounded casing without external WLAN antenna.
You can register for the pilot at http://ipv6test.questionpro.com. We'll then upgrade your DSL router to the IPv6-capable firmware. After the firmware upgrade, you may enable (and disable) IPv6 on the customer web portal : https://sam.sso.bluewin.ch/my/data/ModemMgmtService?mode=overview
Happy testing! Martin
Martin Gysi ___________________________________________________________________________ dipl. Ing. ETH Lausanne Senior Network Development Engineer
Phone 058 223 57 24 martin.gysi@swisscom.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Swisscom (Schweiz) AG Network & IT Network Development Binzring 17 8045 Zürich www.swisscom.ch
swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Hi Jerome
DHCPv6 will not be available until (guess mode on) about 2015. The internal architecture of our network does not currently permit native IPv6. That is why we use 6rd to deploy IPv6. However, 6rd is a very scalable and easy-to-deploy technology, that can also be used independently by wholesale ISP partners. I know of one small ISP that uses 6rd today. So for native IPv6, the choice is today limited to PPP, Ethernet/DHCP must use 6rd (6rd may also be used with PPP, that's how we do it).
If you're interested in 6rd, you'll have to figure out how to configure the CPEs with the required parameters. We use TR-69, as we already have such a device management system in place. Another option is static configuration or the use of a DHCP (v4) option. That DHCP option is not currently supported by our DHCP servers, but you were to ask for such a feature, that should be easy to add.
And yes, I'm aware of that small non-german speaking part of Switzerland ;-), I lived and studied in Lausanne for 5 years… But as this is just a small-scale pilot, we cannot go through the efforts to translate everything. Service launch is imminent, and that will be available in all languages of course.
Best regards, Martin
Am 21.10.2011 um 09:19 schrieb Jerome Tissieres:
Hi Martin,
This is good, and as ISP we are also curious to see when DHCPv6 will be available on BBCS with our own prefixes. Do you know what is the road-map for this?
Small remark, the portal below with the survey is only in German. There is also a part of the population that speaks French and Italian in Switzerland ...
Best Regards, Jerome Tissieres
2011/10/20 Martin.Gysi@swisscom.com:
Dear all
Following up on my presentation on Swisscom's IPv6 plans, I can finally announce that we are ready for a public pilot of IPv6 on DSL for residential Internet access (formerly known as "bluewin"). The swinog community is happily invited, should there be Swisscom customers amongst them :-)
Please note that you'll need a router of the latest generation ("centro grande" or "centro piccolo") to participate -- the ones with the rounded casing without external WLAN antenna.
You can register for the pilot at http://ipv6test.questionpro.com. We'll then upgrade your DSL router to the IPv6-capable firmware. After the firmware upgrade, you may enable (and disable) IPv6 on the customer web portal : https://sam.sso.bluewin.ch/my/data/ModemMgmtService?mode=overview
Happy testing! Martin
Martin Gysi ___________________________________________________________________________ dipl. Ing. ETH Lausanne Senior Network Development Engineer
Phone 058 223 57 24 martin.gysi@swisscom.com ___________________________________________________________________________ Swisscom (Schweiz) AG Network & IT Network Development Binzring 17 8045 Zürich www.swisscom.ch
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