Hi,
preparing myself for the panel discussion on Silvia's IPv6 conference next week, I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that are offering IPv6 connectivity today - and if yes, which flavor (single-stack IPv6 with NAT64/DNS64 like TMO USA, or dual-stack v4+v6 with v4 CGN like T-Mobile DE), and whether it's default-on for anything yet...
thanks :-)
Gert Doering -- NetMaster
Am 11.06.2016 um 19:28 schrieb Gert Doering gert@space.net:
Hi,
preparing myself for the panel discussion on Silvia's IPv6 conference next week, I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that are offering IPv6 connectivity today - and if yes, which flavor (single-stack IPv6 with NAT64/DNS64 like TMO USA, or dual-stack v4+v6 with v4 CGN like T-Mobile DE), and whether it's default-on for anything yet...
I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that know that IPv6 exists…
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:14:37PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote:
Am 11.06.2016 um 19:28 schrieb Gert Doering gert@space.net:
preparing myself for the panel discussion on Silvia's IPv6 conference next week, I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that are offering IPv6 connectivity today - and if yes, which flavor (single-stack IPv6 with NAT64/DNS64 like TMO USA, or dual-stack v4+v6 with v4 CGN like T-Mobile DE), and whether it's default-on for anything yet...
I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that know that IPv6 exists???
Swisscom certainly does... not sure whether their mobile brach does, though.
(Which other mobile providers *are* there, anyway?)
Gert Doering -- NetMaster
Am 11.06.2016 um 20:16 schrieb Gert Doering gert@space.net:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:14:37PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote:
Am 11.06.2016 um 19:28 schrieb Gert Doering gert@space.net:
preparing myself for the panel discussion on Silvia's IPv6 conference next week, I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that are offering IPv6 connectivity today - and if yes, which flavor (single-stack IPv6 with NAT64/DNS64 like TMO USA, or dual-stack v4+v6 with v4 CGN like T-Mobile DE), and whether it's default-on for anything yet...
I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that know that IPv6 exists???
Swisscom certainly does... not sure whether their mobile brach does, though.
it does not, afaict.
(Which other mobile providers *are* there, anyway?)
Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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I have some rumours in mind that swisscom has a test APN you can have enabled to test it?
can anyone confirm that?
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Am 11.06.2016 um 20:16 schrieb Gert Doering gert@space.net:
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 11, 2016 at 08:14:37PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote:
Am 11.06.2016 um 19:28 schrieb Gert Doering gert@space.net:
preparing myself for the panel discussion on Silvia's IPv6 conference next week, I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that are offering IPv6 connectivity today - and if yes, which flavor (single-stack IPv6 with NAT64/DNS64 like TMO USA, or dual-stack v4+v6 with v4 CGN like T-Mobile DE), and whether it's default-on for anything yet...
I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that know that IPv6 exists???
Swisscom certainly does... not sure whether their mobile brach does, though.
it does not, afaict.
(Which other mobile providers *are* there, anyway?)
Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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Martin Gysi spoke about this at the 2015 conference:
http://www.ipv6conference.ch/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/B10-Swisscom-Status_...
According to slide 7 launched in June 2015. Martin can you give an update?
Thanks Silvia
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I think, I read somewhere that Swisscom's VoLTE is IPv6-only. But I do not have links yet...
Am Samstag, den 11.06.2016, 20:24 +0200 schrieb Marc Balmer:
Swisscom certainly does... not sure whether their mobile brach does, though.
it does not, afaict.
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Hi Gert
Swisscom does not offer IPv6 for internet access yet, and as far as I know none of the competitors in CH do that either. We've tested T-Mobile US' approach with 464XLAT. Works well for those handsets that support it. We're focusing on a new approach that would make use of IPv6 for all handsets and that will look like dual-stack to the handsets.
Voice over LTE has been using an IPv6-only APN since its launch last year.
Cheers Martin
-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:29 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] mobile providers with IPv6 in switzerland?
Hi,
preparing myself for the panel discussion on Silvia's IPv6 conference next week, I wonder if there are any mobile providers in Switzerland that are offering IPv6 connectivity today - and if yes, which flavor (single-stack IPv6 with NAT64/DNS64 like TMO USA, or dual-stack v4+v6 with v4 CGN like T-Mobile DE), and whether it's default-on for anything yet...
thanks :-)
Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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Hi Martin,
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 06:12:34AM +0000, Martin.Gysi@swisscom.com wrote:
Swisscom does not offer IPv6 for internet access yet, and as far as I know none of the competitors in CH do that either. We've tested T-Mobile US' approach with 464XLAT. Works well for those handsets that support it. We're focusing on a new approach that would make use of IPv6 for all handsets and that will look like dual-stack to the handsets.
Thanks for the update. Do you have a timeline for that already?
(Maybe we can test and enjoy this next year at the conference?)
Voice over LTE has been using an IPv6-only APN since its launch last year.
This is good :-) - but not very visible on the outside, so content providers can still lean back and defer their IPv6 implementation, pointing to the mobile operators "see, even if we did v6, nobody would use it..."
Gert Doering -- NetMaster
You should be able to test this at next year's conference, yes :-) And commercial launch is also likely to happen next year, if practice adheres to theory (which it does, in theory). It would hopefully be a strong sign to content providers.
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Hi Martin,
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 06:12:34AM +0000, Martin.Gysi@swisscom.com wrote:
Swisscom does not offer IPv6 for internet access yet, and as far as I know none of the competitors in CH do that either. We've tested T-Mobile US' approach with 464XLAT. Works well for those handsets that support it. We're focusing on a new approach that would make use of IPv6 for all handsets and that will look like dual-stack to the handsets.
Thanks for the update. Do you have a timeline for that already?
(Maybe we can test and enjoy this next year at the conference?)
Voice over LTE has been using an IPv6-only APN since its launch last year.
This is good :-) - but not very visible on the outside, so content providers can still lean back and defer their IPv6 implementation, pointing to the mobile operators "see, even if we did v6, nobody would use it..."
Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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