Dear SwiNOGers, I just received an email from EJPD / DFJP which released a partial revision of the "Verordnung über die Überwachung des Post- und Fernmeldeverkehrs" / "Ordonnance sur la surveillance de la correspondance par poste et télécommunication" (VÜPF/OSCPT) today. (request for feedback alike, deadline for answers is 29 july 2011). This is not the update of the law! It is a revision of the regulation (probably to make the "IP Richtlinie / Directive IP" valid!). It really looks like a wish-list including fancy stuff like real-time Internet surveillance (Art. 24a), Instant messaging, VPN surveillance and so on, some articles even have "etc.." to make it virtually unlimited... !? ASUT, Swisscable and SwiNOG have received the documents and they will be available from the website of the EJPD/DFJP starting tomorrow. If you want them right now, I have packed them into a ZIP on the SwiNOG site. http://www.swinog.ch/files/vupf08062011.zip SwiNOG is not representing the ISPs, we all know that and we're running around this problem for a while now. "SwiNOG Organisation" can, however, organise stuff ;-) That is why I propose to organise a meeting (not an event, a meeting) with representatives of all interested ISPs and hosters. The temporary agenda of the meeting is in two parts. First we will discuss how to answer this "request for feedback" and in the second part we will discuss how/why/if the ISPs should be represented (basically, a lobby) and hopefully get a real answer to the forever question. I have invited the ASUT to participate to our meeting but have no answer yet. Finecom has offered its meeting room in Biel/Bienne which is about in the middle of everyone. Here's a doodle for the meeting: http://www.doodle.com/3xqutr9n68cwr3uy Please forward to the concerned person(s) in your organisation. Thanks, Pascal Gloor SwiNOG Organisation