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Hi everyone!
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Dear Daniel, and all,
Yes, I confirm if you order a /30, /29, /28, etc to VTX, the first IP of the subnet is assigned to the CPE with the right mask associated.
> > This setup works on Cisco and Zyxel ADSL as the WAN interface is using
> > the IP from the LAN side and the LNS sees both a /32 and a /30
> > route...not sure about other xDSL CPEs though (o;
I confirm, this setup works on most of the CPE. For exemple with a /30 you have one IP for your LAN gateway and one usable. That's normal, it's a /30. :)
Have a nice day,
Jerome
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> De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch
> [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Daniel
> Roethlisberger
> Envoyé : dimanche, 3. juin 2007 22:46
> À : swinog(a)swinog.ch
> Objet : Re: [swinog] vtx ADSL /30 subnet practice
>
> richard(a)routerlab.org <richard(a)routerlab.org> 2007-06-03:
> > This setup works on Cisco and Zyxel ADSL as the WAN
> interface is using
> > the IP from the LAN side and the LNS sees both a /32 and a /30
> > route...not sure about other xDSL CPEs though (o;
>
> In this setup, the PPP endpoint address of the CPE router is
> the same as it's LAN address, and the customer still gets his
> /30 network to use as expected, i.e. there's an address left
> for, say, a server.
>
> In the vtx case (if correct), there is nothing of the /30
> left to the customer to use, except the WAN address assigned
> via PPPoX. Granted, this does not sound very sane, since the
> customer pays for a /30 which he does not get.
>
> Maybe the vtx engineers just had bad luck explaining the
> above to the customer.
>
> Cheers
> -Dan
>
> >
> >
> > cheers
> > rick
> >
> >
> > Daniel Roethlisberger schrieb:
> > >It seems that vtx has some very strange way of configuring the /30
> > >subnet when customers order 4 fix IP addresses.
> > >
> > >Normally when someone orders a /30, the ADSL router's PPP
> interface
> > >would get an address from an unrelated address range. The 4
> > >addresses from the customer's /30 subnet can be used by
> the custumer
> > >for the network and broadcast addresses (-2), the router's LAN
> > >interface (-1), leaving one address for a server or
> desktop machine.
> > >
> > >However, this seems not to be the case at vtx.ch. As two vtx
> > >engineers explained to a (tech-savvy dipl. Inform.) customer, they
> > >use the addresses from the /30 subnet for the PPP link
> between their
> > >last router and the customer's ADSL router. So in effect,
> this means
> > >ordering a /30 subnet (the 4 fix IP addresses option) from
> vtx gets
> > >you the same as ordering a single fix IP address -- you
> get a static
> > >address on your ADSL router's PPPoA/PPPoE interface, period. To
> > >actually use the static address on a server/desktop, you need to
> > >either configure destination NAT on your router or operate it in
> > >bridging mode and run PPPoE directly from the server/desktop.
> > >
> > >Can anybody confirm that this is current practice at vtx?
> Are other
> > >providers doing the same?
> > >
> > >-Dan
> > >
> >
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It seems that vtx has some very strange way of configuring the /30
subnet when customers order 4 fix IP addresses.
Normally when someone orders a /30, the ADSL router's PPP interface
would get an address from an unrelated address range. The 4 addresses
from the customer's /30 subnet can be used by the custumer for the
network and broadcast addresses (-2), the router's LAN interface (-1),
leaving one address for a server or desktop machine.
However, this seems not to be the case at vtx.ch. As two vtx engineers
explained to a (tech-savvy dipl. Inform.) customer, they use the
addresses from the /30 subnet for the PPP link between their last router
and the customer's ADSL router. So in effect, this means ordering a /30
subnet (the 4 fix IP addresses option) from vtx gets you the same as
ordering a single fix IP address -- you get a static address on your
ADSL router's PPPoA/PPPoE interface, period. To actually use the static
address on a server/desktop, you need to either configure destination
NAT on your router or operate it in bridging mode and run PPPoE directly
from the server/desktop.
Can anybody confirm that this is current practice at vtx? Are other
providers doing the same?
-Dan
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