swinog December 2005

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Policy of blocking spam vs. flagging
by Peter Guhl 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

Hello all Our customers strictly want to get their mail - so we prefer flagging over blocking. Looking around in my server logs (and postmaster accounts) makes me feel that most ISPs today are much more in blocking. Don't they all have huge problems with people complaining? We already have... Regards Peter -- Wie finde ich heraus wie ich etwas herausfinde: http://sourcepole.ch/sources/tips/antwort-findungs-howto.html http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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[swinog] Sober.X, a list of your infected users, please take actions
by Martin Blapp 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

------------------------- http://mx.imp.ch/wormlist ------------------------- Hi everybody, After two weeks with Sober.X and its bounces, we don't see a significant decrease of infected PCs. Infected users often don't see anything and stay infected - and even more complicated - they have disabled antivirus software installed which leads to mass installation of trojan horses and viruses. So please download http://mx.imp.ch/wormlist and inform your customers so they can remove that stupid worm before it does any harm. A good removal tool can be found on: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/FixSbr.exe Sincerly: M. Blapp, ImproWare AG Martin Blapp, <mb(a)imp.ch> <mbr(a)FreeBSD.org> ------------------------------------------------------------------ ImproWare AG, UNIXSP & ISP, Zurlindenstrasse 29, 4133 Pratteln, CH Phone: +41 61 826 93 00 Fax: +41 61 826 93 01 PGP: <finger -l mbr(a)freebsd.org> PGP Fingerprint: B434 53FC C87C FE7B 0A18 B84C 8686 EF22 D300 551E ------------------------------------------------------------------

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couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Thomas Schneider 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Good morning we observed already the 4th to 5th major outage of Sunrise DSL lines in different areas of Switzerland since some days. Is someone able to tell what exactly is going on? Hotline is talking about major backbone problems... cheers tom

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Glogger Steven 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

well, what is the real problem? when i read that only business customers are affected, not private i suppose that swisscom is routing business customers to (one or more) other lns of sunrise. is the interconnection between sunrise and swisscom broken? if yes: normally traffic is rerouted to some redundant system (in this case probably lausanne). is the backbone to lausanne too small? capacity problems? planning faults? dear sunrise, tell us what is happening in detail ,-) everyone would like to learn from mistakes ;-) -steven > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Güntensperger, Robert > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:22 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > Thanks for the flowers! > > G. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler > > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:19 > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > > > Viktor Steinmann wrote: > > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch > > jobmail, but if > > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for > > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I > guess, they > > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > > > > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > > my point > > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere ("Säuliamt"))) > > > > http://www.sunrise.ch/uebersunrise/medien/medienmitteilungen/a > > rchiv-suche/medienmitteilungendetailliert.htm?medid=11649 > > > > > Fachleute von sunrise und dem Lieferanten arbeiten mit Hochdruck > > > daran, die Störung zu beheben. > > > > I wonder if there are any "Fachleute" left except Günti ;-P > > > > Implementation cycles at Sunrise are now > 3 weeks for a 30 minutes > > BGP4 configuration job. > > > > F. > > > > (P.S. Sunrise if you need some freelance "Fachleute" - this list is > > probably the place to hire) > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Güntensperger, Robert 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Sorry i can't tell you more. The ones they should/could know are troubleshooting and not at their desks. Günti > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Glogger Steven > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:27 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > well, what is the real problem? > > when i read that only business customers are affected, not > private i suppose that swisscom is routing business customers > to (one or more) other lns of sunrise. > is the interconnection between sunrise and swisscom broken? > if yes: normally traffic is rerouted to some redundant system > (in this case probably lausanne). is the backbone to lausanne > too small? capacity problems? planning faults? > > dear sunrise, tell us what is happening in detail ,-) > everyone would like to learn from mistakes ;-) > > -steven > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > > Güntensperger, Robert > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:22 PM > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > > > Thanks for the flowers! > > > > G. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Fredy Kuenzler > > > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:19 > > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > > > > > Viktor Steinmann wrote: > > > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch > > > jobmail, but if > > > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for > > > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I > > guess, they > > > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > > > > > > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > > > my point > > > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere ("Säuliamt"))) > > > > > > http://www.sunrise.ch/uebersunrise/medien/medienmitteilungen/a > > > rchiv-suche/medienmitteilungendetailliert.htm?medid=11649 > > > > > > > Fachleute von sunrise und dem Lieferanten arbeiten mit > Hochdruck > > > > daran, die Störung zu beheben. > > > > > > I wonder if there are any "Fachleute" left except Günti ;-P > > > > > > Implementation cycles at Sunrise are now > 3 weeks for a > 30 minutes > > > BGP4 configuration job. > > > > > > F. > > > > > > (P.S. Sunrise if you need some freelance "Fachleute" - > this list is > > > probably the place to hire) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Christian.Kuster＠swisscom.com 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

> Oh well, Rümlang isn't any better in terms of being in the pampas. > > CU, Venty > (who is happy living and working both in Schlieren) No no, Rümlang is shut down. Everything in the sunrise towers...

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Güntensperger, Robert 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Thanks for the flowers! G. > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:19 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > Viktor Steinmann wrote: > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch > jobmail, but if > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I guess, they > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > my point > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere ("Säuliamt"))) > > http://www.sunrise.ch/uebersunrise/medien/medienmitteilungen/a > rchiv-suche/medienmitteilungendetailliert.htm?medid=11649 > > > Fachleute von sunrise und dem Lieferanten arbeiten mit Hochdruck > > daran, die Störung zu beheben. > > I wonder if there are any "Fachleute" left except Günti ;-P > > Implementation cycles at Sunrise are now > 3 weeks for a 30 > minutes BGP4 > configuration job. > > F. > > (P.S. Sunrise if you need some freelance "Fachleute" - this list is > probably the place to hire) > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Glogger Steven 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

ooh.. christian has switched over to swisscom without saying something? ,-) -steven > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Christian.Kuster(a)swisscom.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:52 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > No comment... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Viktor > Steinmann > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:50 PM > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch > jobmail, but if > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I guess, they > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > my point > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere > > ("Säuliamt"))) > > > > Cheers, > > Viktor > > > > Zitat von Xaver Aerni <xaerni(a)pop.ch>: > > > > > Sunrise has sayed, one of the two Routers are completly > down... I'm > > > wondering that sunrise only has two routers in Switzerland. > > One in Zürich... > > > it was today down... and one in Lausanne... > > > I think Sunrise has a big problem with the rednunance of > > their system.... > > > Only two Possiblety and if one is down, they couldent > > route all the > > > traffic to the other router... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Christian.Kuster＠swisscom.com 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

No comment... > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Viktor Steinmann > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:50 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch jobmail, > but if you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is > looking for experienced network engineers for a long time > now... I guess, they don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > my point of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere > ("Säuliamt"))) > > Cheers, > Viktor > > Zitat von Xaver Aerni <xaerni(a)pop.ch>: > > > Sunrise has sayed, one of the two Routers are completly down... I'm > > wondering that sunrise only has two routers in Switzerland. > One in Zürich... > > it was today down... and one in Lausanne... > > I think Sunrise has a big problem with the rednunance of > their system.... > > Only two Possiblety and if one is down, they couldent > route all the > > traffic to the other router... > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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F-Secure Network Control
by Daniel Lorch 05 Dec '05

05 Dec '05

Hi anyone using this? "This box will monitor traffic from end-users at the network edge, automatically denying offending computers access to the network. Those using too much bandwidth or operating as spam zombies will automatically get redirected to a self-help web page, explaining what they have to do (like "clean your PC - install patches!") in order to regain network connectivity." http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/archive-122005.html product website: http://www.f-secure.com/products/fsnc/ Daniel

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