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couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Thomas Schneider 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Good morning we observed already the 4th to 5th major outage of Sunrise DSL lines in different areas of Switzerland since some days. Is someone able to tell what exactly is going on? Hotline is talking about major backbone problems... cheers tom

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Glogger Steven 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

well, what is the real problem? when i read that only business customers are affected, not private i suppose that swisscom is routing business customers to (one or more) other lns of sunrise. is the interconnection between sunrise and swisscom broken? if yes: normally traffic is rerouted to some redundant system (in this case probably lausanne). is the backbone to lausanne too small? capacity problems? planning faults? dear sunrise, tell us what is happening in detail ,-) everyone would like to learn from mistakes ;-) -steven > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Güntensperger, Robert > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:22 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > Thanks for the flowers! > > G. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler > > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:19 > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > > > Viktor Steinmann wrote: > > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch > > jobmail, but if > > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for > > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I > guess, they > > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > > > > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > > my point > > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere ("Säuliamt"))) > > > > http://www.sunrise.ch/uebersunrise/medien/medienmitteilungen/a > > rchiv-suche/medienmitteilungendetailliert.htm?medid=11649 > > > > > Fachleute von sunrise und dem Lieferanten arbeiten mit Hochdruck > > > daran, die Störung zu beheben. > > > > I wonder if there are any "Fachleute" left except Günti ;-P > > > > Implementation cycles at Sunrise are now > 3 weeks for a 30 minutes > > BGP4 configuration job. > > > > F. > > > > (P.S. Sunrise if you need some freelance "Fachleute" - this list is > > probably the place to hire) > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Güntensperger, Robert 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Sorry i can't tell you more. The ones they should/could know are troubleshooting and not at their desks. Günti > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Glogger Steven > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:27 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > well, what is the real problem? > > when i read that only business customers are affected, not > private i suppose that swisscom is routing business customers > to (one or more) other lns of sunrise. > is the interconnection between sunrise and swisscom broken? > if yes: normally traffic is rerouted to some redundant system > (in this case probably lausanne). is the backbone to lausanne > too small? capacity problems? planning faults? > > dear sunrise, tell us what is happening in detail ,-) > everyone would like to learn from mistakes ;-) > > -steven > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > > Güntensperger, Robert > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:22 PM > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > > > Thanks for the flowers! > > > > G. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Fredy Kuenzler > > > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:19 > > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > > > > > Viktor Steinmann wrote: > > > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch > > > jobmail, but if > > > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for > > > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I > > guess, they > > > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > > > > > > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > > > my point > > > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere ("Säuliamt"))) > > > > > > http://www.sunrise.ch/uebersunrise/medien/medienmitteilungen/a > > > rchiv-suche/medienmitteilungendetailliert.htm?medid=11649 > > > > > > > Fachleute von sunrise und dem Lieferanten arbeiten mit > Hochdruck > > > > daran, die Störung zu beheben. > > > > > > I wonder if there are any "Fachleute" left except Günti ;-P > > > > > > Implementation cycles at Sunrise are now > 3 weeks for a > 30 minutes > > > BGP4 configuration job. > > > > > > F. > > > > > > (P.S. Sunrise if you need some freelance "Fachleute" - > this list is > > > probably the place to hire) > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Christian.Kuster＠swisscom.com 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

> Oh well, Rümlang isn't any better in terms of being in the pampas. > > CU, Venty > (who is happy living and working both in Schlieren) No no, Rümlang is shut down. Everything in the sunrise towers...

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Güntensperger, Robert 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Thanks for the flowers! G. > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler > Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 16:19 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > Viktor Steinmann wrote: > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch > jobmail, but if > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I guess, they > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > my point > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere ("Säuliamt"))) > > http://www.sunrise.ch/uebersunrise/medien/medienmitteilungen/a > rchiv-suche/medienmitteilungendetailliert.htm?medid=11649 > > > Fachleute von sunrise und dem Lieferanten arbeiten mit Hochdruck > > daran, die Störung zu beheben. > > I wonder if there are any "Fachleute" left except Günti ;-P > > Implementation cycles at Sunrise are now > 3 weeks for a 30 > minutes BGP4 > configuration job. > > F. > > (P.S. Sunrise if you need some freelance "Fachleute" - this list is > probably the place to hire) > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Glogger Steven 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

ooh.. christian has switched over to swisscom without saying something? ,-) -steven > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Christian.Kuster(a)swisscom.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:52 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > No comment... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Viktor > Steinmann > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:50 PM > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch > jobmail, but if > > you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for > > experienced network engineers for a long time now... I guess, they > > don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > my point > > of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere > > ("Säuliamt"))) > > > > Cheers, > > Viktor > > > > Zitat von Xaver Aerni <xaerni(a)pop.ch>: > > > > > Sunrise has sayed, one of the two Routers are completly > down... I'm > > > wondering that sunrise only has two routers in Switzerland. > > One in Zürich... > > > it was today down... and one in Lausanne... > > > I think Sunrise has a big problem with the rednunance of > > their system.... > > > Only two Possiblety and if one is down, they couldent > > route all the > > > traffic to the other router... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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RE: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
by Christian.Kuster＠swisscom.com 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

No comment... > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Viktor Steinmann > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:50 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages > > Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch jobmail, > but if you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is > looking for experienced network engineers for a long time > now... I guess, they don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) > > Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong place (from > my point of view (which is of course the middle of nowhere > ("Säuliamt"))) > > Cheers, > Viktor > > Zitat von Xaver Aerni <xaerni(a)pop.ch>: > > > Sunrise has sayed, one of the two Routers are completly down... I'm > > wondering that sunrise only has two routers in Switzerland. > One in Zürich... > > it was today down... and one in Lausanne... > > I think Sunrise has a big problem with the rednunance of > their system.... > > Only two Possiblety and if one is down, they couldent > route all the > > traffic to the other router... > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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F-Secure Network Control
by Daniel Lorch 05 Dec '05

05 Dec '05

Hi anyone using this? "This box will monitor traffic from end-users at the network edge, automatically denying offending computers access to the network. Those using too much bandwidth or operating as spam zombies will automatically get redirected to a self-help web page, explaining what they have to do (like "clean your PC - install patches!") in order to regain network connectivity." http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/archive-122005.html product website: http://www.f-secure.com/products/fsnc/ Daniel

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RE: [swinog] Checkpoint Flaw
by Glogger Steven 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

hi stony > Basically they say, that one would need admin privileges on > windows to exploit that. So they suggest, that we ask > everyone to not use admin rights. well, they're right. internet would be so safe if no one would use admin rights - much more better: no one should use computers at all. no computer = no internet = no spam = no cybercrime = no amazon/ebay/skype/google/<putyourfavoriteurlshere> anyway, things will change in release 8 or 9 ;-) -steven > > Funny... let's ask hackers to not use admin rights. That > would make the internet a safer place :-) > > Cheers, > Viktor > > Zitat von Viktor Steinmann <stony(a)stony.com>: > > > Hi all > > > > We've found a flaw in the Checkpoint SecureClient NGX, > which makes it > > a "not-really-secure Client"... > > > > Does anyone on this list have a direct contact to > Checkpoint Quality > > Control, so I don't have to go the long and hard way of > explaining the > > flaw to 10 different people at our reseller...? If yes, > tell them to > > contact me offlist, please. > > > > (I will of course open a case at our reseller anyway, just > to prove, > > that resellers are usually not very helpful in very technical > > cases...) :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Viktor > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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Checkpoint Flaw
by Viktor Steinmann 29 Nov '05

29 Nov '05

Hi all We've found a flaw in the Checkpoint SecureClient NGX, which makes it a "not-really-secure Client"... Does anyone on this list have a direct contact to Checkpoint Quality Control, so I don't have to go the long and hard way of explaining the flaw to 10 different people at our reseller...? If yes, tell them to contact me offlist, please. (I will of course open a case at our reseller anyway, just to prove, that resellers are usually not very helpful in very technical cases...) :-) Cheers, Viktor

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