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Hardware: looking for a cisco catalyst 4006 fan tray
by Frédéric Martin 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

Hello, I'm looking for a Cisco Catalyst 4006 fan tray (Part number WS-X4005). Does anyone have one/two pieces to sell (either new or refurbished) ? Thank you Frédéric

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RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

well, i think RSS is quite a standard and there are possibilities to provide the swinog mailinglist also as RSS feed.. but anyway, a forum/blog is the wrong way... mail should be still the way of communication for swinog members ,-) -steven > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Xaver Aerni > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > think to install an RSS Client is in different offices is a > Problem. If we make a change is a Forum (or new called Blogg) > the beter idea. But you must check what is in the future the > best way. I think some people uesing Handshields or Mobiles > for reading the list... > I don't konw if in future are RSS Reader avable for this products. > > Greetings > Xaver > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tonnerre LOMBARD" <tonnerre(a)bsdprojects.net> > To: "Glogger Steven" <S.Glogger(a)cybernet.ch> > Cc: <swinog(a)swinog.ch> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:38 AM > Subject: Re: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: [swinog] FW: Copper thefts in california
by Glogger Steven 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

imagine this imaginary conversation with an ISP help desk: helpdesk: "good day sir. how can i help you?" customer: "help - my internet and my ADSL line is not working anymore." helpdesk: "does your phone is working?" customer: "no, not at all - i'm calling you from my mobile." helpdesk: "did you checked the cablings? is the plug inserted correct in the walljack?" ... 2minutes of rümschelrümschel... we hear an 'outch' - seems the customer banged his head against the table or so... customer: "<little bit dizzy>yes, i've taken it out and plugged back in - but still no signal" helpdesk: "hmm.. let me check your line - " ... <tiptiptip> ... "yes, i dont see any signal on our side - it could be that you have a psysical access problem" customer: "no, i'm not challenged!!!" helpdesk: "i mean that your physical line of the t-e-l-e-p-h-o-n-e might be interrupted / broken somewhere. you know, the thin cable ..." customer: "what should i do? call an electrician?" helpdesk: "no, we will open a ticket at <put in your favorite last mile provider or:> the local telco". ... some days later ... helpdesk: "good day sir. we've got now feedback from the local telco company. your line should be fixed within the next days" customer: "what is it?" helpdesk: "lets call it problem with the last mile access..." customer: "... which means?...." helpdesk: "well... it seems that someone stole your wire?" customer: "sorry, i'm disturbed.. he stole what??" helpdesk: "as you might have heard the price increase for copper has lead some criminals to pick exiting copper lines which are digged in the street... some made a fortune with copper lines..:" customer: "this would explain why my electrian had to put in new electrical-cables - they might have disappeared some days ago... i had no power at all... " customer: "... and my internet was not working ... thats why i called you" helpdesk: <speakless> otherwise..please refer to "the internet help desk" (old but always good :)) http://www.mrmouse.ch/fun/video/wesmonocable.mov -steven ps: plz reserve in your agenda the 17th of july - next ZH beer event will be planned for this date :)

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FW: Copper thefts in california
by Glogger Steven 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

will this be the new business model after upgrading mostly to fiber? "we sell copper" does get a double meaning :) -steven -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Sean Donelan Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:42 PM To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: Copper thefts in california In addition to the traditional backhoe threat, as the price of copper increased so has the threat of people stealing telephone trunk cables containing copper wire. http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_4021500 Since Jan. 1, there have been 148 reports of copper wire theft in San Bernardino County, said sheriff's spokeswoman Jodi Miller. [...] Per pound, the metal has risen in price from about 70 cents in July 2001 to $3.60 this month, according to Kitco Inc., an international retailer of precious metals. [...] Anyone with information on the Verizon theft may call the Verizon Security Control Center, 1-800-997-3287. For the AT&T thefts, people may call security at (213) 633-2558 or (213) 633-2405. People with information on copper thefts may also contact their local law enforcement agencies.

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FW: 91.192/10 to be used for PI assignments to End Users
by Glogger Steven 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

probably swisscom/andré will update their filter stuff, not? :) -steven -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog(a)merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of leo vegoda Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:51 PM To: Address Policy WG; routing-wg(a)ripe.net Cc: nanog(a)merit.edu; afnog(a)afnog.org; sanog(a)sanog.org; uknof(a)ukif.org.uk; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: 91.192/10 to be used for PI assignments to End Users Dear Colleagues, At recent RIPE Meetings, we have reported a steady rise in requests from our members for Provider Independent (PI) address space for End User networks. We have reclaimed and recycled space from closed Local Internet Registries to meet this demand, but we are nearing the point where the available PI space will run out. In the past, we made PI assignments from former Class C space (193/8 and 194/7). Because of the increasing demand for PI space, we made sure that we would be able to use some of our most recent allocation of address space to meet future requests. We have designated 91.192/10 for PI assignments to End User networks. When the former Class C space is exhausted, we will start to make PI assignments from 91.192/10. We will let you know when this happens. We are announcing a pilot prefix using the RIS beacons, you may want to update any filters that you have in place. The RIS beacons are announcing the following networks: 91.192.0.0/24 91.192.0.0/16 You can ping 91.192.0.1. Full details of reachable IP addresses and tools are available on our web site at: http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon/debogon.html Regards, -- leo vegoda Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC

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[OT] Announcement: Birth of our son
by Tobias Orlamuende 05 Jul '06

05 Jul '06

Hi folks, last Saturday our son - Leon - was born. He had a weight of 3460 g and a size of 50 cm. If you are interrested, have a look at his gallery which will be updated regulary. http://leon.linux-guru.ch Cheers Tobias

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mhs.ch: Job offerings (german only - sorry)
by Matthias Hertzog 03 Jul '06

03 Jul '06

Hi folks! We currently have two job offerings: Technician/Supporter: http://www.mhs.ch/unternehmen/Jobs/Jobs_techniker.shtml Webpublisher: http://www.mhs.ch/unternehmen/Jobs/Webpublisher.shtml Best wishes, Matthias _________________________________________ mhs @ internet AG Zürcherstrasse 204, CH - 9014 St. Gallen Phone +41 71 274 93 93, Fax +41 71 274 93 94 http://www.mhs.ch _________________________________________

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gprs01.swisscom-mobile.ch whitelisting / dsbl
by Olivier Mueller 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

Hello, On some mail servers under my (co-)responsability, the DSBL blacklist is used on smtp-server level to try to fight a little bit against spam. Problem: some customers online via gprs are unable to send mails over these servers, because their external visible IP adress (gprs01.swisscom-mobile.ch: 193.247.250.1) is blacklisted on several lists: http://www.robtex.com/rbls/193.247.250.1.html http://dsbl.org/listing?193.247.250.1 We asked swisscom why they don't try to get away from these lists, but the answer is that we should rather whitelist them: "Die grösseren Schweizer Internet Service Anbieter haben sich vielmehr darauf geeinigt, die IP Nummern von Zugangsanbietern wie Swisscom Mobile auf ihre WhiteList zu nehmen."... Do you think it's the correct way to react? :) Delisting from dsbl.org wouldn't work anyway, at least until abuse or postmaster adresses are created: >Final-Recipient: rfc822;abuse(a)swisscom-mobile.ch >Action: failed >Final-Recipient: rfc822;postmaster(a)swisscom-mobile.ch >Action: failed General question: are you (the postmasters around) using blacklists like dsbl or spamhaus directely on smtp-level (directely rejecting the mails from listed IP's) or only after (like in spamassassin & co.) ? regards, Olivier -- _______________________________________________________ Olivier Müller - PGP key ID: 0x0E84D2EA - Switzerland

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Job: UNIX Administrator, Schlieren/ZH
by Stanislav Sinyagin 29 Jun '06

29 Jun '06

hi all, We're looking for an experienced UNIX Administrator/Support engineer. The tasks include to maintain internet and network applications on approximately 20 servers, install and maintain new servers, and to provide 2nd and 3d level support to our customers. The candidate should be able to show a good knowledge of general Unix administration. Experience with Solaris and Linux is welcome, but is not a requirement. Knowledge of network applications and protocols, such as email, web, dns, etc. is necessary. Perl and bourne shell scripting experience is desired. Knowledge of IP routing and switching basics is a plus too. The candidate will have to work autonomously, find the answers and solutions on his(her) own, be ready to work under pressure and under time constraints. The requirement is a Swiss or EU citizenship and fluent German and English. Fluent French is a plus. The office is located in Schlieren, in approximately 30 minutes from Zurich HB, or 5 minutes by bus from Zurich-Altstetten station. Please feel free to contact me, as given below. Regards, Stanislav Stanislav Sinyagin Senior System Engineer CCIE #5478 GPS Technik AG Zuercherstrasse 139 CH-8952 Schlieren Switzerland Tel : +41 (0)44 732 99 53 Fax : +41 (0)44 731 18 40 Mobile: +41 (0)79 407 02 24 mail : s.sinyagin(a)gpstechnik.ch www : http://www.gpstechnik.ch

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Contact
by Nicolas Strina 27 Jun '06

27 Jun '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello, Any Dataway people around ? Please contact me offlist. Regards, Nicolas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEoPruhVupqbmzoscRA96+AKCs7mB5Q0UnCz6tjLWeGpHeYoL18ACfeDvo M+Oxbe3VibFu+DEbDM4oHNc= =x/RG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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xorp
by Richard Klingler 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

ehlo (o; Anybody of you using xorp in a production environment? Any figures regarding stability and resource usage on fbsd/netbsd platforms? cheers rick

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RFD: Filtering/Blacklisting AS9145 (EWETEL) Cause: Providing internet access to known spamer
by Benoit Panizzon 26 Jun '06

26 Jun '06

Dear colleagues In february this year we detected a lot of spam, being sent from dial-up accounts in the responsibility of AS9145. Those spam emails are sent from the well known swiss spamer 'Martin Fürst' who won't get internet-access at almost all ISP in Switzerland and many more in UK Germany and China. I had quite a few phone calls with EWETEL techs and finaly with their law responsible (Mr. Heder.) As I understood their policy does not allow them to block internet-access to the customer sending those spam mails. (Nor to reveal his identity which I never asked for... he is too well known). Today more spam-mails with typical 'Martin Fürst' signatures arrived to various spam-traps and customer addresses. Unfortunately right now I was not able to catch Mr. Heder, and on the support number they again didn't want to put me through to the abuse-desk responsible or to the management, ceo or cto of EWETEL. So I think time has come the ISP running mailservers affected by those spam-floods from EWETEL have to put up a bit more pressure. We are considering filtering AS9145 on our routers and to list the IP-ranges of AS9145 on the SWINOG Antispam Blacklists; if we still don't get the reply from EWETEL that this customer is definitively banned from their network within a few days. What are your opinions? Would other ISP join? Mit freundlichen Grüssen Benoit Panizzon -- I m p r o W a r e A G - System Services ______________________________________________________ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 00 CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 01 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch ______________________________________________________

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RE: [swinog] RFD: Filtering/Blacklisting AS9145 (EWETEL) Cause:Providing internet access to known spamer
by Glogger Steven 23 Jun '06

23 Jun '06

hoi benoit well, i personally dont see a difference between fürst and any other korean, US or spanish spammer. so why should i block any other ISP's AS/traffic? the collateral damage might be too big and does not justify the filtering. anyway, i dont like spammer and i don't like fürst at all. i cannot understand the reasons of EWETEL to not react on it, because it's a normal abuse case where they risk to get on blacklists which can cause them more damage.. but anyway, thats their risk.... if you think to put the whole AS9145 to the swinog antispam list we might consider to not use anymore the list, because we're having then a sorbs-a-like effect which i dont like ... but i'm not the decision maker in our company, so this remains a personal view ;-) -steven

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Reset DSCP/IP-PREC field
by Marcel Leuenberger 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

HiYa! Just want to ask you if it is "allowed" to reset the IP-PRECEDENCE/DSCP-Field to Zero (or any other value) at the border of an ISP network? Means there is no problem if an IP-Transit provider reset the customers IP-PREC/DSCP field because INTERNET is best effort and therefore each ISP can do with the IP-PREC/DSCP whatever he want's because each ISP has it's own "QoS-Domain and rules"? For me resetting the IP-PREC/DSCP is a must concerning security and to declare Internet-Traffic as BE in internal networks. Or I am wrong and are there any existing rules in the "ISP" community relating modifying IP-PREC/DSCP? Are you resetting the IP-PREC/DSCP as well? Thanks and greetings, - Marcel

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Server space
by Richard Klingler 22 Jun '06

22 Jun '06

Good morning (o; As I decided to leave 4589 to give my family a higher priority as some might already know I'm looking for a small 1HU space for my tiny little server for my Linux/OSX/SIP and openrouter development stuff...average traffic well below 50kbits/sec... preferrably Zurich area... cheers rick ps: net-engineers can of course apply at 4589.ch.... but I'm not gonna comment on that or give any further information (o;

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RE: [swinog] Reset DSCP/IP-PREC field
by Christian.Kuster＠swisscom.com 20 Jun '06

20 Jun '06

Strongly recommended, unless the Provider's Backbone is DSCP transparent... Cheers Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Marcel Leuenberger Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 1:59 PM To: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Reset DSCP/IP-PREC field HiYa! Just want to ask you if it is "allowed" to reset the IP-PRECEDENCE/DSCP-Field to Zero (or any other value) at the border of an ISP network? Means there is no problem if an IP-Transit provider reset the customers IP-PREC/DSCP field because INTERNET is best effort and therefore each ISP can do with the IP-PREC/DSCP whatever he want's because each ISP has it's own "QoS-Domain and rules"? For me resetting the IP-PREC/DSCP is a must concerning security and to declare Internet-Traffic as BE in internal networks. Or I am wrong and are there any existing rules in the "ISP" community relating modifying IP-PREC/DSCP? Are you resetting the IP-PREC/DSCP as well? Thanks and greetings, - Marcel _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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SwiNOG-BE38 - Beer Event 38 - 26th of June 06 @Pumpstation / Zurich Lake
by Glogger Steven 15 Jun '06

15 Jun '06

dear swinogers so, next beer event is coming. again for the lake ;-) please watch out the reg. deadline (saturday, 24.06. at high-noon) .. :) thanks. some important words: ====================== since we're reserving at the pumpstation, and officially we're not allowed to reserve any table there, we have to be really on time. i have to give up the remaining space around 18:45/18:50. so, if you're not punctional it might be that your seat is already gone and you'll organize a new seat by yourself... we've had some troubles with the restaurant last year because people came too late, we've had an almost empty table around for about an hour. this is bad for their business and this is bad for us (no reservations anymore...). if you're not sure if you'll be on time just drop a note to the comment field... the facts for the next event: ----------------------------- Date: 26th of June 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @lake in restaurant "Pumpstation" (see image; www.pumpstation.ch) On Bad weather (will be communicated the same day around noon) we go to the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 24.06.06 12:00:00 Registration: ------------- Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven

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Evaluation of broadband across 26 OECD countries
by Sarpreet 05 Jun '06

05 Jun '06

Hi All, This is a really cool report that was commissioned by InternetNZ http://www.internetnz.net.nz/media/2006-05-29-research-report Regards, Sarpreet Basi Knowledge Computers Email: sar(a)knowledgecomputers.net Toll-free: 800.967.6609 x102 International: 250.748.0818 x102 Fax: 250.748.3388 Mobile: 250.709.0336 AOL IM: sarpreetb MSN: sarpreet(a)hotmail.com www.knowledgecomputers.net

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Wanted: Foundry switch(es)
by Kirill Ponazdyr 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

Hi folks, I am looking for Foundry switch(es), need total of 48 100 or 1000BaseT ports. Something like EdgeIron 4802 or similar would be sweet. Let me know if you have something like that around. Thanks! Kirill -- Kirill Ponazdyr Technical Director Codeangels Solutions GmbH Tel: +41 (0)43 844 90 10 Fax: +41 (0)43 844 90 12 http://www.codeangels.ch http://www.codeangels.com

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Wanted: Cisco flash SIMM
by A. Uk / dataway GmbH 02 Jun '06

02 Jun '06

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Search for 4000 Power Supply
by Michel Renfer 01 Jun '06

01 Jun '06

Hi All! Anyone has one or more AC power supplys for Cisco 4000 to sell? (Part WS-X4008=) Please contact me offlist... thanks, michel

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RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

hi ruedi > What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? > Good/bad idea? bad. how do you answer to posts? ,-) for me RSS is not a solution for participating in a mailinglist. if you want to have read only access, it may be an alternative... so you still need the mails ;-) > I personally would very much favour this approach for the following > reasons: > - My inbox remains emptier/smaller <ironic> yes, you're right, we've got about 654'465'108 mails a year on this mailinglist ;-) makes sense ,-) </ironic> > - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list well, as i said: mail will remain, so auto reply's will remain ... > - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. i dont know, but i think bandwidth is not really a problem with that mailinglist, right? we're not (yet) at nanog's size ,) > So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for > example, recommends this software on the server side: > http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt i think you're gladly invited to provide an RSS feed for those people which cannot live without it ;-) cheers -steven

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RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

> Whom does the RSS feed serve the most? Surely not the active > part of the SwiNOG-Community. Those guys can just as well > read the mails and answer to random topics they feel the need to. ack. > RSS does not give you that possibility, you're readonly. A > perfect excuse to just consume and give nothing back > (information that is). I don't like that idea. full ack. > Mail is as easy and flexible that it's even readable on a > cell phone or an old-fart PDA. Just because some of you have > a shiny new Ogo or Mulberry (whatchamacallit?) does not mean > everyone wants to replace his Palm IIIx now. another ack. > Finally, HTML-Mails with Flash and JavaScript do go the same > way, so don't even think about coming up with THAT! final ack. -steven

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AW: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Hofer Ruedi 31 May '06

31 May '06

Steven, you're my hero! /ruedi > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Glogger Steven > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 11:22 > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Betreff: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > so, something like http://www.mrmouse.ch/swinog-rss/ ? ,-) > > -steven > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Hofer Ruedi > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:56 AM > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > > > > Hi all > > > > What do you think of reading this mailing list as RSS feed? > > Good/bad idea? > > > > I personally would very much favour this approach for the following > > reasons: > > - My inbox remains emptier/smaller > > - No problems with auto replys which flood the whole list > > - Only headers get downloaded automatically. This saves bandwidth. > > > > RSS clients are found in Firefox, Thunderbird. That means, > > users have the necessary tools already installed! > > > > So, dear administrator, why not give it a try? Google, for > > example, recommends this software on the server side: > > http://jmason.org/software/scripts/mailman-archive-to-rss.txt > > > > Cheerio > > Ruedi Hofer, Energy Water Berne > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed
by Glogger Steven 31 May '06

31 May '06

can someone remove this guy which is completely not able to give his autoresponder some "artificial intelligence" to at least respond ONCE and not each time ;-)? -steven > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > gbadel(a)freestudios.ch > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 11:23 AM > To: Glogger Steven > Subject: RE: RE: [swinog] Reading list as RSS feed > > > I will be out of the office starting 22.05.2006 and will not > return until 05.06.2006. > > Your email will not be forwarded. I will respond to your > message when I return. > Please contact Nicolas Guillemenot +41 22 592 50 00 for any > urgent matters. > > Best Regards > > GrÃ©goire Badel >

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