D'oh - shame on me, I should practice more on Google. :) Mhm, this bnx2 thingy isn't impossible but still annoying...

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Mario Iseli Gesendet: Montag, 15. Februar 2010 09:56 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] ProLiant & Debian

Hi Benjamin,

Debian Wiki: http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant

It runs on most newer HP servers quite well, never had any problems. But you need to install the bnx2 driver for most network interfaces.

Have fun and regards, Mario

-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Schlageter Benjamin Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 9:42 AM To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] ProLiant & Debian

Hi everybody

Has someone any experiences with Debian on a ProLiant 120 and/or 160? I'm searching some cheap server for monitoring and our old Dell PE 1950 is an ass full of pain with Debian. :(

Cheers Benjamin

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with sunoracle servers, you end up with disk bays that are difficult to buy if you need to increase the disk capacity. And the original Sun disks cost a fortune.

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From: Mathias Seiler mathias.seiler@mironet.ch To: Schlageter Benjamin B.Schlageter@ebm.ch Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 10:00:08 AM Subject: Re: [swinog] ProLiant & Debian

Hi Benjamin :)

Try Sun gear, pardon Oracle servers.

I remember they once wanted to start with official Debian support on these machines. They even are "certified" for Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/sun

Regards

On 15 Feb 2010, at 09:41, Schlageter Benjamin wrote:

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Hi everybody

Has someone any experiences with Debian on a ProLiant 120 and/or 160? I'm searching some cheap server for monitoring and our old Dell PE 1950 is an ass full of pain with Debian. :(

Hi

On 18 Feb 2010, at 14:10, Tonnerre Lombard wrote:

Salut,

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 04:33:03 -0800 (PST), Stanislav Sinyagin ssinyagin@yahoo.com wrote:

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with sunoracle servers, you end up with disk bays that are difficult to buy if you need to increase the disk capacity. And the original Sun disks cost a fortune.

That is so not true! Even if you buy a Sun Fire with 0 hard disks you still get all drive bays along with the server so you can mount your own disks in a minute.

Last time I checked, I received just "dummy"-bays (not really what one needs to mount own drives).

You can still buy the "cheapest" hard drive (so you get a bay) and swap the disk though :)

Cheers

		Tonnerre

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Hi

Hmm, I may have confused the term "bay" here :)

What I meant is this:

The connectors on the servers don't look like standard SAS or SATA connectors, so I assume you absolutely have to buy an original expensive (-ish) disk and can't mount your own (reasonably priced) disks.

Cheers

On 19 Feb 2010, at 15:14, Tonnerre Lombard wrote:

Salut,

On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 14:34:04 +0100, Mathias Seiler mathias.seiler@mironet.ch wrote:

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That is so not true! Even if you buy a Sun Fire with 0 hard disks you still get all drive bays along with the server so you can mount your own disks in a minute.

Last time I checked, I received just "dummy"-bays (not really what one needs to mount own drives).

I'm a rather frequent and loyal Sun customer, I think over time I must have bought just about every Fire model, and they all came with empty drive bays where no hard disks have been ordered. I never saw any «dummy» or unusable bay between the years 2000 and 2010.

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You can still buy the "cheapest" hard drive (so you get a bay) and swap the disk though :)

You can do that as well if you like.

		Tonnerre

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This site has come in handy for some RAID controllers and Debian Lenny: http://hwraid.le-vert.net/

On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 15:47 +0100, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

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From: Tonnerre Lombard tonnerre@bsdprojects.net

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I'm a rather frequent and loyal Sun customer, I think over time I must have bought just about every Fire model, and they all came with empty drive bays where no hard disks have been ordered. I never saw any «dummy» or unusable bay between the years 2000 and 2010.

Yes, empty drive bays where you can't insert a standard bare disk. You need Sun disk mount kits, which are not sold separately.

You both sure have made very contradicting experiences with Sun HW!

Is your reseller making a business out of it for it's own, removing the unused disk frames and selling them apart with third-party disks? /Speculation

Because I too always have got a usable disk frame in every disk bay.

Am 2/21/10 10:49 AM, schrieb Alexandre Suter:

You can find 2.5" trays on e-bay though (look for the corresponding Sun part number).

For HP ProLiant users, that one could be very handy: http://www.pcp.ch/product-1a15080534.htm?parnr=12832879

Cheerz, - Dan