Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

-- Mike Kellenberger mike.kellenberger@escapenet.ch Escapenet - the Web Company Tel +41 52 235 0700 http://www.escapenet.ch Skype mikek70atwork -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Viktor Steinmann Gesendet: Montag, 16. Februar 2009 17:02 An: Andreas Fink Cc: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud Same same, but different...? http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog@swinog.ch/msg00847.html Kind regards, Viktor Andreas Fink wrote: > Hello Collegues, > > Today I got a document sent to us because we are listed as ISP. You > probably have all received it as well. > Its a case of a Party A against "unknown" who has said something > wrong/bad about Party A. (Ehrverletzung/Verleumdung etc.) > > While I can understand that Party A tries to get their right to get > things wrong written about them is being changed to correct, the ISP's > of Switzerland are now out of a sudden involved in this as they are > "in charge of blocking" the corresponding site. > > > Also what upset's me most is the sentence that this is the status of a > "Verfügung" from a "Untersuchungsrichter" and there is no legal way to > oppose ("gegen die vorliegende Verügung keine Rechtsmittel möglich > sind"). This might be true for the immediately accused as they had > their chance to answer but for us "other 3rd party" ISP's it can not > hold true as we have never heard of this case ever before and we have > not been involved in this case before. > > I would suggest the ISP community of Switzerland stands up united > against such ridiculous practice of judges who have no clue how the > internet works: > > > I see two possible ways > > > a) All ISP's send an INvoice to the Party A for the installment of the > filters. They have caused this work so they are liable for the cost. > Its not our fault. > > b) all ISP's object in written to the decision of being in this case > and oppose. > > or both. > > > What are your oppinions? > > > > > > Andreas Fink > > Fink Consulting GmbH > Global Networks Schweiz AG > BebbiCell AG > IceCell ehf > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Tel: +41-61-6666330 Fax: +41-61-6666331 Mobile: +41-79-2457333 > Address: Clarastrasse 3, 4058 Basel, Switzerland > E-Mail: andreas@fink.org mailto:andreas@fink.org > www.finkconsulting.com > http://www.finkconsulting.com www.global-networks.ch www.bebbicell.ch > --------------------------------------------------------------- > ICQ: 8239353 MSN: msn1@gni.ch mailto:msn1@gni.ch AIM: smsrelay > Skype: andreasfink > Yahoo: finkconsulting SMS: +41792457333 > > http://a-fink.blogspot.com/ A developers view about iPhone SDK > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog