August 2009 - swinog - vmaill01.sys

Switzerlandwide Internet problem
by Michele Capobianco 16 Jul '23

16 Jul '23

Hey all A friend just told me that Cybernet told him there is a Switzerlandwide Internet Problem. Does anybody know something? Cheers Michele -------- Online Consulting AG, Michele Capobianco, System Administrator, Weststrasse 38, CH-9500 Wil Phone +41 (0)71 913 31 31, Fax +41 (0)71 913 31 32 http://www.online.ch, michele.capobianco(a)online.ch<mailto:michele.capobianco@online.ch> --------

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IRCnet server for *.ch
by Fabian Uebersax 04 Sep '09

04 Sep '09

Hi everybody, We've decided that we no longer have the resources to host our IRC server irc.datacomm.ch / irc.span.ch, which is connected to IRCnet (http://www.ircnet.com/). Currently, we're the only swiss server for IRCnet. We're looking for someone who is willing and able to run the IRC service on a machine located here in Switzerland. Please read here for the requirements of linking a new server: http://www.ircnet.com/index.php?&p=2&mid=6&id=8 If you're interested please contact me offlist, thanks! cheers, - Fabian

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Are the dates for the next meetings correct?
by Thomas Kernen 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

The Swinog website has listed the dates for the meetings in 2010. The one in April happens to fall on a Friday. Is this a mistake or intentional? Thomas

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SHDSL / ADSL DSLAM
by Marco Fretz 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

Hi there, We're looking for small IP DSLAMs for G.SHDSL(.bis) and ADSL2+. We need about 16-24 Ports in 1 Rack Unit (or a modular system), Ethernet Uplink (GE / FE), dot1q, etc. Does anyone know a suitable product that fits our requirements with a good cost-performance ratio? We are already using ZyXEL IES 1000 with modules and IES 2000 (which are no longer sold by ZyXEL). The IES 1000 with SAM-1216-22 in G.SHDSL.bis mode delivers just 16 Ports in 1 Unit (2 modules for 3900 CHF each) and is due to this to expensive. Also the IES5000 is to big and expensive for our small PoPs. Do you recommend the G.SHDSL.bis or should we stay with G.SHDSL (4096 per line)? Thanks and best regards Marco Fretz

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registrationsgebühr invoice #110
by Steven Glogger 31 Aug '09

31 Aug '09

hoi elisabete fyi: bitte bezahl die rechnung #110 nicht, ich werde dir sie gutschreiben resp. auf 0 setzen, sobald ich von thomas alle angaben habe, damit ich eine sammelrechnung machen kann. keine angst, ich werde keine registrationen kippen wegen einer verspätung der sammelrechnung ,-) -steven

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SwiNOG #19 Announcement & Registration
by Pascal Gloor 27 Aug '09

27 Aug '09

Dear SwiNOG community, # IMPORTANT: Read the WHOLE mail! Its important :-) We're pleased to announce the next SwiNOG meeting. But before I go into event details I need to explain a few changes here. On 27th July 2009, the so far known as "The SwiNOG Core-Team" has established the "SwiNOG Organisation" association. The goals of the SwiNOG Organisation is to organise and finance the SwiNOG events, run the mailing-list, hold the domain and all the different resources the SwiNOG community needs. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- # Why did you make this move now? Didn't it work before ? There are a few main reasons: - So far we were always personally responsible of the event charges, if a sponsor would have failed to pay, we would have had to pay it ourselves. - Simplification for sponsors, we can send them a legal invoice for the sponsoring. - End of the registration mess. The registration has been a problem for SwiNOG events since a few years now. We will stop this mess by putting in place a regular registration process with in advance payment. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- # Can I be member of the association ? Yes, you can be member of the association, but it doesn't make sense. Members of the association organise the events, they have no benefit or special conditions (yes, we also pay to join the event!). Additionally we're fully staffed and have no needs to expand. If we'll need more people, we'll let the community know. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- # Are you SwiNOG ? No, we are not SwiNOG, YOU are the SwiNOG community. Its a little bit like RIPE and RIPE NCC (don't laugh :P). YOU are the community and we organise YOUR resources. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Now lets see what changed in the event organisation. Starting from SwiNOG 19 the following registration rules will apply: - You need to register online in advance. - There is an event fee of 50 CHF which includes the lunch. - If we don't get your payment within 5 days you will get a warning by email. If we still don't get your payment a few days later your registration will be dropped. - Once we get your payment, you will receive a confirmation by email. If you have paid and don't get a confirmation within 5-6 days, make sure to bring a payment proof with you (we don't need a legal document, a print screen of an online payment is fine). - If you show up at the event without prior registration or payment, you still have the possibility to join the event for 100 CHF, but only if there are free seats. - There is NO refund policy, but you may give your seat to someone else. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (if you scrolled down here just to get the registration link, go back and read the mail!) Let get to the real stuff: The SwiNOG Organisation is pleased to announce the next SwiNOG event. Event: SwiNOG #19 Place: AltesTramdepot in Bern Date: 29th of September 2009 Fee: 50 CHF online, 100 CHF at the event (only if seats are available) Registration: http://register.swinog.ch Registration deadline: 20 September 2009 23:59 Agenda: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog19/swinog19_agenda-txt.txt We would already thank to our sponsors by enabling us to provide you this event. Main sponsor: Global Crossing Social event: T-Systems / DTAG Wireless LAN: nts workspace Thank you for the time you spent reading this huge email ;) Pascal Gloor President SwiNOG Organisation Email: swinog-core at swinog dot ch

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Off List Contact: "bighosting" / "hightechbits"
by Tobias Göller 26 Aug '09

26 Aug '09

Hi All I'm not sure someone from hightechbits.com / bighosting.biz is on this list. If yes: Could someone of you please contact me offlist ASAP? Thanks Tobias Goeller

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System Enginneer vacant
by Radek Mrskos 25 Aug '09

25 Aug '09

For those that are interested in a new opportunity. http://www.oneit.ch/wb/pages/home/offene-stellen.php /Radek

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server transportation / delivery
by Mateo Meier 25 Aug '09

25 Aug '09

Hi Guys, We are importing our servers from Netherland, on a monthly basis or whenever we need new hardware. Currently we use UPS an DHL, but they are expensive (aprox. 200-300 USD per order) and take long for each delivery. Does anyone have a good recommendation for a delivery or server transportation company ? Thx a lot and warm regards Mateo

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[Fwd: Stellenausschreibung]
by Steven Glogger 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

FYI: in case someone is interested. I've got an request if I could forward this mail to the ML. this is a one time issue. I'm not really intersted to allow all recuiting companys to use swinog as a 'job portal'. -steven -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Stellenausschreibung Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:41:52 +0200 From: Dieter Mutti <dieter.mutti(a)bluewin.ch> To: <swinog-core(a)swinog.ch> Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren Für eine Mandatin im Kanton Bern suche ich einen Network System Engineer mit einer CCxx-Zertifizierung und Erfahrung im Cisco-Umfeld, s. _http://www.gcp.ch/infoglueDeliverLive_gcp/Home/KARRIEREANGEBOTE/Suche+Karriereangebote/Detailanzeige+Karriereangebote?catId=6&jobId=1_ <http://www.gcp.ch/infoglueDeliverLive_gcp/Home/KARRIEREANGEBOTE/Suche+Karri…> Wäre es möglich, unter den Mitgliedern der Swiss Network Operators Group eine Meldung mit dem Link zirkulieren zu lassen? Herzlichen Dank. Freundliche Grüsse Dieter Mutti Partner GFELLER CONSULTING & PARTNER AG Wankdorffeldstrasse 102 Postfach 261 CH-3000 Bern 22 Tel: +41 31 335 62 75 Fax: +41 31 371 44 18 Mobile: +41 79 649 64 13 E-mail: dieter.mutti(a)gcp.ch Web: _www.gcp.ch_ <file://www.gcp.ch>

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Bluewin.ch
by Xaver Aerni 18 Aug '09

18 Aug '09

Hello, Could someone from noc. Bluewin me contact offline. Greetings Xaver Xariffusion Informatik & Telecom Zürichstrasse 10a 8340 Hinwil Tel. 043/8437878 Fax 043/8437871 E-mail info(a)xariffusion.ch

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Business Internet Line Geneva
by Ruben Lehmann 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Hi Does anyone provide business internet services in Geneva? We need about 10Mbit/s symmetric. The location is around the train station. Please contact me off list. Thank you and regards Ruben Lehmann Network Engineer ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monzoon Networks AG, Spinnerei-Lettenstrasse, Riverside, 8192 Zweidlen, Switzerland Tel. +41 (0)43 5000 4776 Fax. +41 (0)43 5000 478 Mobile. +41 (0)78 656 4772 E-Mail. rlehmann(a)monzoon.net WebPage. www.monzoon.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Vorratsdatenspeicherung
by Xaver Aerni 12 Aug '09

12 Aug '09

Hallo zusammen, Das Bakom hat in dem letzten Monat ein Büchlein als Gerichtsurkunde verschickt, betreffend der Voratsdatenspeicherung. Was die Geräte können müssen etc. Meinse wissens gibt es bis jetzt nur eine Lösung die einigermassen "Abnehmbar" ist. Das ist das von Nokia Siemens... Und das erfüllt auch nicht in allen Punkten die Vorschriften. Die Vorschrift ist ja eigentlich für die Katze. Und die Provider müssen für diese Lösung viel Geld in die Hand nehmen. Für 3 Monate sämtlichen Verkehr aufzuzeichnen. Braucht je nach Providergrösse sehr grosse Kapazitäten. Mich nimmt es Wunder was im Moment bei den diversen Provider geplant ist. Eigentlich müsste der Aufwand für das Aufzeichnen auf die Kunden abgewälzt werden. Das heisst ein DSL Anschluss würde im Schnitt etwa Fr. 10.-- bis Fr. 20.-- im Monat teurer werden. Die Auf die Abgaben die der Bund für eine Auskunft zahlen würde. (Betrag steht ja nicht fest) kann man ja nicht rechnen. Gruss Xaver ********************************************** Xaver Aerni Zürichstrasse 10a 8340 Hinwil Tel. 001 707 361 68 39

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aspsms down?
by Andre Timmermann 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

Hi, I think some of you might use aspsms.com for alerting (nagios, etc) Currently, we have no connection to aspsms which seemes to reside somewhere at sunrise. Can anybody confirm that aspsms.com is unrechable? -- Kind regdards Andre Timmermann Nine Internet Solutions AG, Albisriederstr. 243c, CH-8047 Zuerich Tel +41 44 637 40 00 | Direkt +41 44 637 40 06 | Fax +41 44 637 40 01

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EJPD = Access Denied??
by Andreas Fink 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

Does anybody get on: www.ejpd.admin.ch the result Access Denied (policy_denied) Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL. For assistance, contact your network support team. Andreas Fink Fink Consulting GmbH Global Networks Schweiz AG BebbiCell AG IceCell ehf --------------------------------------------------------------- Tel: +41-61-6666330 Fax: +41-61-6666331 Mobile: +41-79-2457333 Address: Clarastrasse 3, 4058 Basel, Switzerland E-Mail: andreas(a)fink.org www.finkconsulting.com www.global-networks.ch www.bebbicell.ch --------------------------------------------------------------- ICQ: 8239353 MSN: msn1(a)gni.ch AIM: smsrelay Skype: andreasfink Yahoo: finkconsulting SMS: +41792457333 http://a-fink.blogspot.com/

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datacenter failover?
by . . 08 Aug '09

08 Aug '09

hey guys, we have some servers in datacenter#1: ns1, ns2, web1(mail/sql). we also have ns3 and web2 outside this web. how can we make this working? ok, we can copy the data by cron, no problem. but can i give ns3 another ip for an a record? what`s your solution? greets, sebastian

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Und meine Antwort...
by Claudio Prezzi 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

Sehr geehrter Herr Meier Ihre Antwort tönt wie eine Stellungsname eines Überwachers und nicht wie die eines Datenschützers. Ich hätte erwartet, dass sie sich zumindest um die Einhaltung der Datenschutzbestimmungen sorgen. Erachten Sie die Speicherung aller Bewegungen jedes Internetnutzers ohne vorherigen Verdacht nicht als gefährlich?! Es ist doch so, dass die Daten nach der neuen Vorschrift aufgezeichnet werden müssten, lange bevor eine richterliche Anordnung zur Überwachung ausgestellt wird! Und genau da besteht die Gefahr des Missbrauches. Wer überwacht die Provider und die Überwacher? Ich spreche hier nicht von der Echtzeitüberwachung, sondern von der Vorratsdatenspeicherung. In Art. 3a wird die Überwachung ausserhalb von Strafverfahren klar auf vermisste Personen beschränkt. Die verlangte Vorratsdatenspeicherung stellt aber eine Überwachung ausserhalb eines Strafverfahrens dar, und ist somit bis auf die Fälle von Art. 3a unzulässig! Wie stehen Sie dazu? Die Aussage, dass es sich lediglich um eine technische Umsetzung des bestehenden Rechts handelt, wird bezweifelt. Es ist wohl eher eine neue, wesentlich umfangreichere Auslegung der BÜPF. In Art. 15 Abs. 3 werden die Daten zur Vorratsdatenspeicherung abschliessend auflistet. Dies sind Daten zur Teilnehmeridentifikation, Verkehrs- und Rechnungsdaten. Der strittige Punkt betrifft vermutlich die Verkehrsdaten. Unter Verkehrsdaten sind die Daten zu Verstehen, die zur Verkehrsmessung und Verrechnung sowieso erhoben werden müssen. Bei IP-Verkehr sind dies also das Loginprotokoll mit IP-Adresse. Eine generelle Überwachung der gesamten Bewegungen aller Nutzer war sicher nicht der Willen des Gesetzgebers, denn Art. 3 verbietet dies ausdrücklich. Gegen die Speicherung der Logindaten ist nichts einzuwenden. Dies entspricht den Verbindungsdaten der Telefonie. Was dann genau kommuniziert wird, muss bei der Telefonie auch nicht aufgezeichnet werden. Eine anders lautende Auslegung des Gesetzes wird hoffentlich vom Bundesgericht zurückgewiesen. Es ist sicher unbestritten, dass eine Überwachung nach begründetem Verdacht sinnvoll und hilfreich für die Verbrechensbekämpfung sein kann, doch kann die breite Bevölkerung nicht verstehen, weshalb dazu gleich alle Internetnutzer überwacht werden müssen?! Insbesondere, da Kriminelle diese Überwachung mit einfachsten Mitteln umgehen können. Bei solch fragwürdigem Nutzen ist die Massnahme nicht Verhältnismässig und zudem viel zu teuer. Ich hoffe, dass Ihr Amt seine Verantwortung gegenüber dem Bürger wahrnimmt, und sich gegen die Einführung der neue Verordnung einsetzt. Im sorry that this is all in german, but my English is not good enough to translate this! Freundliche Grüsse Claudio Prezzi COMsulting GmbH c/o Parkstudio Else-Züblin-Str. 115 CH-8404 Winterthur Tel. +41 52 222 45 05 Fax +41 52 222 45 35 info(a)comsulting.ch www.comsulting.ch

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Antwort des Eidgenössischer Datenschutz- und Öffentlichkeitsbeauftragten
by Claudio Prezzi 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

Hallo zusammen. Hier ist die Antwort des Datenschutzbeauftragen auf meine Anfrage: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Sehr geehrter Herr Prezzi Wir beziehen uns auf Ihre Anfrage vom 24. Juli bezüglich der Vorratsdatenspeicherung bei Internetprovidern und danken Ihnen dafür. Anders als es der WoZ-Artikel vom 16. Juli zur neuen IP-Richtlinie des ÜPF suggeriert, handelt es sich dabei nicht um eine gesetzliche Neuerung, sondern lediglich um eine technische Umsetzung der bereits bestehenden rechtlichen Bestimmungen. Das gegenwärtige BÜPF versteht unter Fernmeldediensten neben Telekommunikationsdienstleistern auch Internetprovider, weshalb für diese die selben Bestimmungen gelten wie z.B. für die Swisscom (http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/780_1/index.html). Die in der Richtlinie geforderte Vorratsdatenspeicherung ist folglich sehr wohl mit dem schweizerischen Recht vereinbar. Für die Überwachung des Internetverhaltens der Abonnenten ist zudem nach BÜPF eine richterliche Anordnung erforderlich (Art. 6 BÜPF), wobei das Gesetz die in Frage kommenden Delikte abschliessend aufzählt (Art. 3. Abs. 2 BÜPF). In der Hoffnung Ihnen mit dieser Auskunft weitergeholfen zu haben, verbleiben wir mit freundlichen Grüssen Francis Meier Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter Eidgenössischer Datenschutz- und Öffentlichkeitsbeauftragter Feldeggweg 1, 3003 Bern Tel +41 31 324 75 92 Fax +41 31 325 99 96 francis.meier(a)edoeb.admin.ch www.derbeauftragte.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Freundliche Grüsse Claudio Prezzi COMsulting GmbH c/o Parkstudio Else-Züblin-Str. 115 CH-8404 Winterthur Tel. +41 52 222 45 05 Fax +41 52 222 45 35 info(a)comsulting.ch www.comsulting.ch

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Data Retention etc.
by Andreas Fink 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

Folks, I will be interviewed on radio today about my letter to EJPD and my view on the new "law" on surveillance. I'm putting all arguments together now and sorting them by priority (not enough time to say everyting) One thing which is missing is the cost of such equipment to completely automated wiretap. Does anyone have some figures there? I can only estimate what kind of work it would take us to do it ourselves. Please let me know quickly. The interview is in a few hours and on radio on friday (Espresso) Andreas Fink Fink Consulting GmbH Global Networks Schweiz AG BebbiCell AG IceCell ehf --------------------------------------------------------------- Tel: +41-61-6666330 Fax: +41-61-6666331 Mobile: +41-79-2457333 Address: Clarastrasse 3, 4058 Basel, Switzerland E-Mail: andreas(a)fink.org www.finkconsulting.com www.global-networks.ch www.bebbicell.ch --------------------------------------------------------------- ICQ: 8239353 MSN: msn1(a)gni.ch AIM: smsrelay Skype: andreasfink Yahoo: finkconsulting SMS: +41792457333 http://a-fink.blogspot.com/

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Re: [swinog] Data Retention etc.
by Andreas Fink 04 Aug '09

04 Aug '09

If anyone wants to speak on radio about the Data Retention issue, the implications etc, get in touch with me. The radio guys are listening to us. So this is a chance to speak out loud what kind of nonsense we are facing. Don't be afraid. EJPD can not punish you for speaking about a law or your personal oppinion... Andreas Fink Fink Consulting GmbH Global Networks Schweiz AG BebbiCell AG IceCell ehf --------------------------------------------------------------- Tel: +41-61-6666330 Fax: +41-61-6666331 Mobile: +41-79-2457333 Address: Clarastrasse 3, 4058 Basel, Switzerland E-Mail: andreas(a)fink.org www.finkconsulting.com www.global-networks.ch www.bebbicell.ch --------------------------------------------------------------- ICQ: 8239353 MSN: msn1(a)gni.ch AIM: smsrelay Skype: andreasfink Yahoo: finkconsulting SMS: +41792457333 http://a-fink.blogspot.com/

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Alert for bluewin DNS admins
by Alexander Gall 03 Aug '09

03 Aug '09

It appears that the bluewin DNS caches are using an old key for verifying DNSSEC for the zone switch.ch, as can be seen by using the "cd" option of dig ; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P1 <<>> @dns1.bluewin.ch. switch.ch. soa ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 605 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;switch.ch. IN SOA ;; Query time: 40 msec ;; SERVER: 195.186.1.110#53(195.186.1.110) ;; WHEN: Mon Aug 3 14:17:55 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 27 ; <<>> DiG 9.6.1-P1 <<>> @dns1.bluewin.ch. switch.ch. soa +cd ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 865 ;; flags: qr rd ra cd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;switch.ch. IN SOA ;; ANSWER SECTION: switch.ch. 86400 IN SOA scsnms.switch.ch. hostmaster.switch.ch. 2009080301 28800 7200 604800 180 ;; Query time: 4 msec ;; SERVER: 195.186.1.110#53(195.186.1.110) ;; WHEN: Mon Aug 3 14:17:56 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 81 I sent mail to hostmaster(a)bluewin.ch but I'm not sure whether that gets the proper attention. This is a serious issue for us. To everybody: PLEASE don't configure DNSSEC trust anchors from untrusted sources (heck, that's why they are called trust anchors). That defeats the purpose of it and chances are that you will miss key-rollovers. BTW, is the #swinog IRC channel still alive somewhere after irc.swinog.ch went away? -- Alex

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SwiNOG 19 - 29. september 2009, Berne / Call for Papers
by Steven Glogger 03 Aug '09

03 Aug '09

hi all we're currently filling up the agenda and still have some slots available. if you're interesting to hold a speech, please write to swinog-core [at] swinog.ch we will open the registration about 1month before the meeting. greetings -steven SwiNOG core team member

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BE
by Andre Keller 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

No BE on monday? ;-) -- André Keller GnuPG 1024D/C00CA768 = 4A57 6ED6 9F20 81DB E582 B70F 1D31 AFE9 C00C A768

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DENOG 1: Call for Papers
by Arnold Nipper 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

DENOG 1 - Call for Participation and Papers The first meeting of the German Network Operators Group (DENOG) will be held in Frankfurt, Germany on the 5th of November 2009. We are pleased to hereby invite applications for presentations or short lightning talks to be held at this inaugural event. General Information =================== DENOG is a community for professionals within Germany who are operating, designing or researching the Internet. It provides a technical forum where those working on, with and for the Internet can come together to solve problems with every aspect of their (net)work. The inaugural meeting is designed to provide an opportunity for the exchange of information among network operators, engineers, researchers and other professionals close to the network community. More information about DENOG (in German) can be found at http://www.denog.de/ Information about the meeting will be published at http://www.denog.de/meeting/. Meeting Countdown ================= What When ------------------------------------------------------ Publication of Call for Papers July 27th, 2009 Deadline for all submissions September 28th, 2009 Publication of final programme October 11th, 2009 Deadline for receipt of final slides October 29th, 2009 Meeting Day November 5th, 2009 Topics for Presentations/Talks ============================== The day will be divided into four sessions as described below. The number and length of presentations per session is not fixed, although due to time constraints we would prefer the length of the presentations to be between 10 to 30 minutes. However proposals for longer/shorter presentations or presentations whose subject falls outside of the topics below are also welcome; please do not hesitate to submit them. Topic #1: Internet, politics and regulations -------------------------------------------- Duration: 90 minutes Topics can include (but are not limited to): Legal interception, government-driven DNS blacklists, DNSSEC (and problems arising from DNS blacklists). Topic #2: Peering ------------------ Duration: 60 minutes All around your peering experience. Why are you doing it? How are you doing it? Have you written any useful tools which others might find interesting? Topic #3: ISP BOF ----------------- Duration: 90 minutes "All things ISP". From Network/SLA Management (for or against it), abuse handling and log systems to data centre layout and planning (including power and cooling), everything that is interesting to you as an ISP can be presented or discussed within this topic. Topic #4: DENOG Organisational Matters -------------------------------------- Duration: 60 minutes, no papers necessary In this session we will discuss how to proceed with DENOG and potential future meetings. We will present our ideas and eagerly await your own ideas, feedback and comments. Submission Guidelines ===================== All submissions must have a strong technical bias and must not be solely promotional for your employer. To appeal to an international audience we ask you to produce your slides in English, but the presentation itself can be in either German or English. Please remember that your presentations should be suitable for a target audience of technicians from varied backgrounds, working for companies whose sizes vary considerably. To submit a proposal for a presentation, we request that you provide the following information as plain text or PDF format to <denog-pc(a)denog.de>: * the name of the presenter (and if applicable your affiliation) * a working email address * the name and number of the topic which will contain the presentation * the title of the presentation * its expected length (in minutes) * the preferred spoken language for the presentation * a short abstract of the presentation (not more than 200 words) We also welcome suggestions for specific presentations which you feel would be valuable to the DENOG community. Please be aware that your presentation will be publish on the DENOG website after the event. Best regards, Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arnold(a)nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333

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Re: [swinog] (no subject)
by Xaver Aerni 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

Sorry in the Rules is written... * The purpose of SwiNOG is to further improve the quality of Internet and other IP-based services available in Switzerland. * SwiNOG fosters the exchange of ideas and information between technical personnel involved with designing or operating parts of the Swiss Internet. * SwiNOG is non-political, and is not a lobby group. But it may serve as a focus for discussion on technical aspects of political, legal or commercial issues that effect the Swiss Internet. * SwiNOG is aimed at technical personnel working for Service Providers active in Switzerland, but it is open to anyone interested in furthering the SwiNOG goals. Subscription to the mailing list constitutes 'membership' of SwiNOG. * SwiNOG is not a legal entity. There is no formal membership or organisation, and no fees. * The principle channels for information exchange are the mailing list, web sites, and regular meetings every 3-4 months. * SwiNOG is a communal effort. Resources such as mailing lists, web sites, meeting organisation and so on are very welcome from any persons or companies kind enough to offer them. * The working languages are any official Swiss language plus English. Any official Swiss languages... German is an official Swiss language. Greetings Xaver > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Philippe Teissier [mailto:philippe.teissier@gmail.com] > Gesendet: Samstag, 1. August 2009 00:58 > An: Xaver Aerni > Betreff: Re: [swinog] (no subject) > > Hi, > > This mailing list is an english speaking mailing list. > > Thanx > > 2009/7/31, Xaver Aerni <xaerni(a)pop.ch>: > > Ist momentan der Swinog uribl tod? > > Haben diverse Einträge > > Momentan füllt sich das Messages Log mit solchen Einträgen: > > > > Jul 31 09:21:08 linux-1ij2 named[19455]: too many timeouts > resolving > > '25.191.91.118.uribl.swinog.ch/A' (in 'uribl.swinog.ch'?): > disabling > > EDNS Jul 31 09:21:08 linux-1ij2 named[19455]: too many timeouts > > resolving '25.191.91.118.uribl.swinog.ch/A' (in > 'uribl.swinog.ch'?): > > disabling EDNS Jul 31 09:21:08 linux-1ij2 named[19455]: too many > > timeouts resolving '25.191.91.118.uribl.swinog.ch/A' (in > > 'uribl.swinog.ch'?): disabling EDNS Jul 31 09:21:08 linux-1ij2 > > named[19455]: too many timeouts resolving > > '25.191.91.118.uribl.swinog.ch/A' (in 'uribl.swinog.ch'?): > disabling > > EDNS Jul 31 09:21:08 linux-1ij2 named[19455]: too many timeouts > > resolving '25.191.91.118.uribl.swinog.ch/A' (in > 'uribl.swinog.ch'?): > > disabling EDNS Jul 31 09:21:08 linux-1ij2 named[19455]: too many > > timeouts resolving '25.191.91.118.uribl.swinog.ch/A' (in > > 'uribl.swinog.ch'?): disabling EDNS > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > Xaver Aerni > > Zürichstrasse 10a > > 8340 Hinwil > > Tel. 001 707 361 68 39 > > > > > > > -- > Philippe Teissier > philippe.teissier(a)m4tp.org >

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swinog August 2009