OVH has a very nice weathermap, and yesterday I've seen the uplink to UPC was full at 90%: http://weathermap.ovh.net/#zurich It's currently at 55% and I my download speed is 2mb/s. That's only an alternative when fiber7 is here, and I don't think this will be in the next five years :-) As you already said the other access providers like Swisscom aren't even better with their peering policy. And there isn't an other provider than UPC and SC at my location. The best way will be that every private peering is free :-) -------------------------- Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882 Von: Fredy Kuenzler [mailto:kuenzler@init7.net] Gesendet: Montag, 6. Juli 2015 08:31 An: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch; oles(a)ovh.net Cc: Marco Näf; JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine Betreff: Re: [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years I guess the reason for the poor performance is the broken peering policy of UPC AS6830. Traffic ratio between OVH and UPC is likely around 10:1 and therefore UPC is not willing to upgrade unless OVH pays them a fortune. Despite that UPC customers request the traffic from OVH servers (they are supposed to do so, as they pay their broadband connection), UPC still does not provide enough bandwidth, since they want to force a double-sided revenue stream. On the other side, I'm pretty sure that OVH would immediately upgrade interconnects with UPC based on zero settlement. That means: UPC is to blame, not OVH. The only adequate answer is: cancel your UPC subscription, if you have a choice. But be aware, that the Swiss incumbent is not any better in their policy; exchanching UPC with SC is like out of the frying pan into the fire... This story goes on an on for at least 10 years, you can only exchange actor names: UPC, SC, DTAG, FT, Telefonica, Comcast, Verizon... vs. OVH, Netflix, Hetzner, Cogent... and Init7, too. -- Fredy Kuenzler Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd. St.-Georgen-Strasse 70 CH-8400 Winterthur Switzerland http://www.init7.net/

Right, but I don't want an other provider just because I can access the OVH network with only 5mbit :-) With Swisscom I can get max 25 mbit download and 5mbit upload. 10 times lower than UPC. So I just love my 250mbit connection from UPC ;-) -------------------------- Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Quentin Carpent [mailto:Quentin@myvirtualhome.ch] Gesendet: Montag, 6. Juli 2015 09:25 An: Marco Näf; Fredy Kuenzler; swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch; oles(a)ovh.net Cc: JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine Betreff: RE: [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years If you have a PSTN line, you have the possibility to choose other ISP than Swisscom :=) ________________________________________ From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch <swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch> on behalf of Marco Näf <marco(a)naefmarco.ch> Sent: 06 July 2015 09:11 To: Fredy Kuenzler; swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch; oles(a)ovh.net Cc: JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine Subject: Re: [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years OVH has a very nice weathermap, and yesterday I've seen the uplink to UPC was full at 90%: http://weathermap.ovh.net/#zurich It's currently at 55% and I my download speed is 2mb/s. That's only an alternative when fiber7 is here, and I don't think this will be in the next five years :-) As you already said the other access providers like Swisscom aren't even better with their peering policy. And there isn't an other provider than UPC and SC at my location. The best way will be that every private peering is free :-) -------------------------- Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882 Von: Fredy Kuenzler [mailto:kuenzler@init7.net] Gesendet: Montag, 6. Juli 2015 08:31 An: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch; oles(a)ovh.net Cc: Marco Näf; JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine Betreff: Re: [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years I guess the reason for the poor performance is the broken peering policy of UPC AS6830. Traffic ratio between OVH and UPC is likely around 10:1 and therefore UPC is not willing to upgrade unless OVH pays them a fortune. Despite that UPC customers request the traffic from OVH servers (they are supposed to do so, as they pay their broadband connection), UPC still does not provide enough bandwidth, since they want to force a double-sided revenue stream. On the other side, I'm pretty sure that OVH would immediately upgrade interconnects with UPC based on zero settlement. That means: UPC is to blame, not OVH. The only adequate answer is: cancel your UPC subscription, if you have a choice. But be aware, that the Swiss incumbent is not any better in their policy; exchanching UPC with SC is like out of the frying pan into the fire... This story goes on an on for at least 10 years, you can only exchange actor names: UPC, SC, DTAG, FT, Telefonica, Comcast, Verizon... vs. OVH, Netflix, Hetzner, Cogent... and Init7, too. -- Fredy Kuenzler Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd. St.-Georgen-Strasse 70 CH-8400 Winterthur Switzerland http://www.init7.net/ _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog