* Marco Näf marco@naefmarco.ch [2015-07-05 19:19:48 +0000]:

Hello Everyone

I'm having speed problems when I want to download files with my 250mbit Cablecom home connection from OVH. The files are loading with a maximum of 300kb/s. A MTR shows that all data is transfered via a private peering directly from OVH.

As it's very difficult to get someone from the Cablecom network departement via telephone or email support and I've seen there are people from Cablecom on this mailing list, I would like to ask someone from cablecom to contact me about this issue at marco AT naefmarco dot ch for more information.

I can confirm that. It sometimes gets a bit better (around 5 MBit if I remember correctly, with a connection advertised as 250 MBit), but usually it's indeed about 300-500kb/s.

I've also tried to reach cablecom via support and Twitter about this issue, without much success.

Florian

Hi Marco,

Maybe try to contact Octave (Founder & CTO of OVH) at oles@ovh.net

Best regards, Antoine

De : swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Marco Näf Envoyé : dimanche 5 juillet 2015 21:20 À : swinog@lists.swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years

Hello Everyone

I'm having speed problems when I want to download files with my 250mbit Cablecom home connection from OVH. The files are loading with a maximum of 300kb/s. A MTR shows that all data is transfered via a private peering directly from OVH. As it's very difficult to get someone from the Cablecom network departement via telephone or email support and I've seen there are people from Cablecom on this mailing list, I would like to ask someone from cablecom to contact me about this issue at marco AT naefmarco dot ch for more information.

Thank you.

-------------------------- Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882

OVH has a very nice weathermap, and yesterday I've seen the uplink to UPC was full at 90%: http://weathermap.ovh.net/#zurich It's currently at 55% and I my download speed is 2mb/s.

The only adequate answer is: cancel your UPC subscription

That's only an alternative when fiber7 is here, and I don't think this will be in the next five years :-) As you already said the other access providers like Swisscom aren't even better with their peering policy. And there isn't an other provider than UPC and SC at my location.

The best way will be that every private peering is free :-) -------------------------- Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882

Von: Fredy Kuenzler [mailto:kuenzler@init7.net] Gesendet: Montag, 6. Juli 2015 08:31 An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch; oles@ovh.net Cc: Marco Näf; JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine Betreff: Re: [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years

I guess the reason for the poor performance is the broken peering policy of UPC AS6830. Traffic ratio between OVH and UPC is likely around 10:1 and therefore UPC is not willing to upgrade unless OVH pays them a fortune.

Despite that UPC customers request the traffic from OVH servers (they are supposed to do so, as they pay their broadband connection), UPC still does not provide enough bandwidth, since they want to force a double-sided revenue stream.

On the other side, I'm pretty sure that OVH would immediately upgrade interconnects with UPC based on zero settlement.

That means: UPC is to blame, not OVH. The only adequate answer is: cancel your UPC subscription, if you have a choice. But be aware, that the Swiss incumbent is not any better in their policy; exchanching UPC with SC is like out of the frying pan into the fire...

This story goes on an on for at least 10 years, you can only exchange actor names: UPC, SC, DTAG, FT, Telefonica, Comcast, Verizon... vs. OVH, Netflix, Hetzner, Cogent... and Init7, too.

-- Fredy Kuenzler Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd. St.-Georgen-Strasse 70 CH-8400 Winterthur Switzerland

http://www.init7.net/

Am 06.07.2015 um 07:26 schrieb JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine antoine.jacot-descombes@unine.ch:

Hi Marco,

Maybe try to contact Octave (Founder & CTO of OVH) at oles@ovh.net

Best regards, Antoine

De : swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Marco Näf Envoyé : dimanche 5 juillet 2015 21:20 À : swinog@lists.swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years

Hello Everyone

I'm having speed problems when I want to download files with my 250mbit Cablecom home connection from OVH. The files are loading with a maximum of 300kb/s. A MTR shows that all data is transfered via a private peering directly from OVH. As it's very difficult to get someone from the Cablecom network departement via telephone or email support and I've seen there are people from Cablecom on this mailing list, I would like to ask someone from cablecom to contact me about this issue at marco AT naefmarco dot ch for more information.

Thank you.

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Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882

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If you have a PSTN line, you have the possibility to choose other ISP than Swisscom :=)

Right, but I don't want an other provider just because I can access the OVH network with only 5mbit :-) With Swisscom I can get max 25 mbit download and 5mbit upload. 10 times lower than UPC. So I just love my 250mbit connection from UPC ;-)

-------------------------- Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Quentin Carpent [mailto:Quentin@myvirtualhome.ch] Gesendet: Montag, 6. Juli 2015 09:25 An: Marco Näf; Fredy Kuenzler; swinog@lists.swinog.ch; oles@ovh.net Cc: JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine Betreff: RE: [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years

If you have a PSTN line, you have the possibility to choose other ISP than Swisscom :=)

________________________________________ From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch on behalf of Marco Näf marco@naefmarco.ch Sent: 06 July 2015 09:11 To: Fredy Kuenzler; swinog@lists.swinog.ch; oles@ovh.net Cc: JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine Subject: Re: [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years

OVH has a very nice weathermap, and yesterday I've seen the uplink to UPC was full at 90%: http://weathermap.ovh.net/#zurich It's currently at 55% and I my download speed is 2mb/s.

The only adequate answer is: cancel your UPC subscription

That's only an alternative when fiber7 is here, and I don't think this will be in the next five years :-) As you already said the other access providers like Swisscom aren't even better with their peering policy. And there isn't an other provider than UPC and SC at my location.

The best way will be that every private peering is free :-) -------------------------- Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882

Von: Fredy Kuenzler [mailto:kuenzler@init7.net] Gesendet: Montag, 6. Juli 2015 08:31 An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch; oles@ovh.net Cc: Marco Näf; JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine Betreff: Re: [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years

I guess the reason for the poor performance is the broken peering policy of UPC AS6830. Traffic ratio between OVH and UPC is likely around 10:1 and therefore UPC is not willing to upgrade unless OVH pays them a fortune.

Despite that UPC customers request the traffic from OVH servers (they are supposed to do so, as they pay their broadband connection), UPC still does not provide enough bandwidth, since they want to force a double-sided revenue stream.

On the other side, I'm pretty sure that OVH would immediately upgrade interconnects with UPC based on zero settlement.

That means: UPC is to blame, not OVH. The only adequate answer is: cancel your UPC subscription, if you have a choice. But be aware, that the Swiss incumbent is not any better in their policy; exchanching UPC with SC is like out of the frying pan into the fire...

This story goes on an on for at least 10 years, you can only exchange actor names: UPC, SC, DTAG, FT, Telefonica, Comcast, Verizon... vs. OVH, Netflix, Hetzner, Cogent... and Init7, too.

-- Fredy Kuenzler Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd. St.-Georgen-Strasse 70 CH-8400 Winterthur Switzerland

http://www.init7.net/

Am 06.07.2015 um 07:26 schrieb JACOT-DESCOMBES Antoine antoine.jacot-descombes@unine.ch:

Hi Marco,

Maybe try to contact Octave (Founder & CTO of OVH) at oles@ovh.net

Best regards, Antoine

De : swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Marco Näf Envoyé : dimanche 5 juillet 2015 21:20 À : swinog@lists.swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] Cablecom and OVH speed problems since years

Hello Everyone

I'm having speed problems when I want to download files with my 250mbit Cablecom home connection from OVH. The files are loading with a maximum of 300kb/s. A MTR shows that all data is transfered via a private peering directly from OVH. As it's very difficult to get someone from the Cablecom network departement via telephone or email support and I've seen there are people from Cablecom on this mailing list, I would like to ask someone from cablecom to contact me about this issue at marco AT naefmarco dot ch for more information.

Thank you.

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Best Regards Marco Näf AS201882

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