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while Tobi speaks...
by Stanislav Sinyagin 10 May '12

10 May '12

here's a complimetnary slideshow to what Tobi is presenting now: http://www.denog.de/meetings/denog3/pdf/09-Sinyagin-Torrus_Gerty_Mooxu.pdf

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Dark fiber in Neuchatel
by Marcel Prisi 08 May '12

08 May '12

Hi ! We are looking for some dark fiber links from Neuchatel <> Lausanne, does someone have something to propose ? Thanks !

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Cisco 2851
by Silvan Gebhardt 07 May '12

07 May '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Folks, for a customer I am looking for two additional Cisco 2851 for their Network. If someone has such gear hanging around please contact me offlist. best, Silvan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk+n4scACgkQC82WwYR1u2rm5gCcCRN08BsdfDpXNTq7uCfwgep0 +GIAoJuwQVOLBNHoIZJha3xh4wu7Jtd8 =1XS0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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SwiNOG #24 - Last chance to register!
by Steven Glogger 03 May '12

03 May '12

Dear SwiNOGers, Last chance to register for SwiNOG #24 J The registration is open until sunday - then it will be closed. If you want to join after this date, the registration Fee is CHF 100.- (can be paied on site). The agenda for SwiNOG #24 : http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog24/agenda.asp A special thank to our sponsors which helped us to make this event happen: Cisco e-shelter Level 3 Registration: https://register.swinog.ch/ Have a nice day! -steven SwiNOG Core Team

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SwiNOG-BE109 - Beer Event 109 - 7th of May 2012 @ Outback Lodge / ZH
by Steven Glogger 03 May '12

03 May '12

hi everybody here's the announcement for the next beer event: the facts for the next event: ----------------------------- Date: 7th of Mai 2012 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 07.05.2012 10:00:00 Registration URL: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ ----------------------------- i've reserved for 10 people, if there are more I need to hurry up to change the reservation :) since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap (+41 79 277 92 35). greetings -steven

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Suche Rack
by Rolf Tschumi 03 May '12

03 May '12

Hallo an alle, suche dringend 19" Racks, Angebote bitte an mich, Offline. Vielen Dank Gruss Rolf

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Rackspace at InterXion
by Frank Garcia 03 May '12

03 May '12

Good morning Swinogers, I am looking for either a 1/4 or 1/2 private rack at InterXion Glattbrugg with a 24/7 badge access to the rack. Power footprint requirements would be quite minimal. If you have anything to offer please get in touch with me offline. Cheers, Frank

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mailing list going berserk, check your logs
by Markus Wild 30 Apr '12

30 Apr '12

I'm currently seeing on two completely independent mail platforms incoming mails from newsletter4-bounces(a)moneycab.ws, which seem to be out-of-office replies sent back to the mailing list and redistributed again... you get the idea ;) I suggest you check your smtp logs whether you or your customers are also victims of this sender, and act accordingly if you are. from=<newsletter4-bounces(a)moneycab.ws>, relay=ml05.ispgateway.de [80.67.18.71] (I wouldn't assume the relay to be constant though). At least one mailing list currently being part of this problem is: "Swiss Leadership Forum - Newsletter vom 30.04.2012" nice to know Swiss leadership doesn't know how to deal with buggy exchange out of office replies :) Cheers, Markus

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FW: IPv6 de-aggregation
by John.Collins＠BIT.admin.ch 27 Apr '12

27 Apr '12

Hi again Swinog members, Many thanks for the many informative replies. Some or maybe most (random sample) of the /48s in the routing table are not PIs - needs further analysis. Regarding the PI suggestion, what do we do with customers who will never have an own AS and will never be dual homed? Do they have to "resign" to using Provider space - with renumbering when they change Provider. Or is there another way? I know of this document which seems to tolerate /48 prefix propagation (even if the case described is not exactly our case) http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-532. Does this document mean anything to SPs out there? Thanks again John -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Bernhard Schmidt Sent: Freitag, 27. April 2012 10:39 To: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] IPv6 de-aggregation On 27.04.2012 10:09, John.Collins(a)BIT.admin.ch wrote: Hello, > we're a LIR, we got a /32 from RIPE and we want to allocate /40s and > /48s to customers. Only snag is that the customers will not have their > Internet feed from us but from any Service Provider of their choice. The > customers will have to convince their SPs (X, Y, Z) to route these "non > X,Y,Z" or "foreign" prefixes. We're getting a lot of "raised eyebrows" > about this. What's this about prefixes longer that /32 not being > propagated? When I look at the IPv6 table I see: > > IPv6 Routing Table Summary - 8625 entries > > 5 local, 2 connected, 3 static, 0 RIP, 8615 BGP 0 IS-IS, 0 OSPF > > Number of prefixes: > > /0: 1, /8: 1, /10: 1, /12: 1, /16: 1, /19: 2, /20: 5, /21: 3 > > /22: 5, /23: 5, /24: 7, /25: 4, /26: 9, /27: 10, /28: 31, /29: 19 > > /30: 15, /31: 13, /32: 4049, /33: 97, /34: 87, /35: 93, /36: 242, /37: 7 > > /38: 50, /39: 22, /40: 385, /41: 12, /42: 18, /43: 34, /44: 151, /45: 15 > > /46: 75, /47: 45, /48: 3006, /49: 3, /50: 1, /52: 5, /56: 9, /64: 40 > > /126: 1, /128: 45 > > So where did all the /48s come from ... also one or two /40s... ?? Deaggregation and PIv6 prefixes (which are /48s usually). > What do you think about this? If you're a SP would you route the /48s or > /40s from the customers? What about your upstream peers? If you were my paying customer insisting on getting a /40 or /48 from your PA space announced I would of course do so. But that's only half of the story, because others have to accept that. And there will be networks that don't. There is no real consensus on if and how much deaggregation from PA space should be allowed. As long as that is not there, we are filtering >/36 from PA space. And I know others do, too. If you absolutely need to do this, make sure you announce the covering /32 somewhere. And make sure you do everything possible to prove the validity of those routes (proper route6-objects, maybe RPKI ROA, ...) Bernhard _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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IPv6 de-aggregation
by John.Collins＠BIT.admin.ch 27 Apr '12

27 Apr '12

Hi SWINOG members, we're a LIR, we got a /32 from RIPE and we want to allocate /40s and /48s to customers. Only snag is that the customers will not have their Internet feed from us but from any Service Provider of their choice. The customers will have to convince their SPs (X, Y, Z) to route these "non X,Y,Z" or "foreign" prefixes. We're getting a lot of "raised eyebrows" about this. What's this about prefixes longer that /32 not being propagated? When I look at the IPv6 table I see: IPv6 Routing Table Summary - 8625 entries 5 local, 2 connected, 3 static, 0 RIP, 8615 BGP 0 IS-IS, 0 OSPF Number of prefixes: /0: 1, /8: 1, /10: 1, /12: 1, /16: 1, /19: 2, /20: 5, /21: 3 /22: 5, /23: 5, /24: 7, /25: 4, /26: 9, /27: 10, /28: 31, /29: 19 /30: 15, /31: 13, /32: 4049, /33: 97, /34: 87, /35: 93, /36: 242, /37: 7 /38: 50, /39: 22, /40: 385, /41: 12, /42: 18, /43: 34, /44: 151, /45: 15 /46: 75, /47: 45, /48: 3006, /49: 3, /50: 1, /52: 5, /56: 9, /64: 40 /126: 1, /128: 45 So where did all the /48s come from ... also one or two /40s... ?? What do you think about this? If you're a SP would you route the /48s or /40s from the customers? What about your upstream peers? Thanks in advance for your answers. John John Collins Eidgenössisches Finanzdepartement EFD Bundesamt für Informatik und Telekommunikation BIT Basisprodukte Telekommunikation Netzplanung und Engineering

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