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New Website: Open Root Server Network (ORSN)
by Marco Huggenberger 01 Apr '05

01 Apr '05

Hi! New Website: Open Root Server Network (ORSN) is online now at: http://www.orsn.org/ - The Independent DNS Solution with IPv6 support for the European Community. On this page you can find the current operational status of our root server systems and some additional information about the ORSN project. Cheers Marco Operator of the ORSN Root Server H

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Autoreply: [swinog] New Website: Open Root Server Network (ORSN)
by natalio＠infomaniak.ch 01 Apr '05

01 Apr '05

Je suis absent du bureau j'usqu'au 11 Avril 2005 inclus. Pour des informations ou des demandes veuillez envoyer un E-mail à hostmaster(a)infomaniak.ch. I am out of office till 11 avril 2005 included. For informations or requests, please, contact : hostmaster(a)infomaniak.ch -------------------------------------------- Infomaniak Network SA Natalio Cano Network Administrator Phone: +41 228203545 Fax: +41 228203546 Email: natalio(a)infomaniak.ch http://hosting.infomaniak.ch --------------------------------------------

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IANA IPv4 allocations and bogon update: 73/8
by Rob Thomas 31 Mar '05

31 Mar '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [ Apologies to those of you who receive this note in multiple forums. ] Hi, team. The numerous Team Cymru bogon projects have been updated as of 30 MAR 2005 to reflect the following IANA allocation made on 30 MAR 2005: 073/8 Mar 05 ARIN (whois.arin.net) IANA allocations change over time, so please check regularly to ensure you have the latest filters if you are not using the bogon BGP feed(s). We do announce updates to the bogon projects to sundry lists, such as the bogon-announce list. We can not stress this point strongly enough - these allocations change. If you do not adjust your filters, you will be unable to access perhaps large portions of the Internet. Worse yet, you may end up blocking access for people who transit through you. Please do not apply any filters or blocks to your network without carefully considering the ramifications of doing so. As a point of reference, the Team Cymru master Bogon Reference Page can be found here: <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/> A quick summary of the documents and projects that have been updated include the following: HTTP The Bogon List - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html> The Text Bogon Lists - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-bn-nonagg.txt> - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-bn-agg.txt> Secure BIND Template - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bind-template.html> Secure IOS Template (Cisco) - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-ios-template.html> Secure BGP Template (Cisco) - <http://www.cymru.com/Documents/secure-bgp-template.html> Secure JUNOS Template (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-template.htm> Secure JUNOS BGP Template (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-bgp-template.htm> Ingress Prefix Filter Templates, Loose and Strict (Cisco) - <ftp://ftp-eng.cisco.com/cons/isp/security/Ingress-Prefix-Filter-Templates/> Ingress Prefix Filter Template, Loose (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-isp-prefix-filter-loose.htm> Ingress Prefix Filter Template, Strict (Juniper) - <http://www.cymru.com/gillsr/documents/junos-isp-prefix-filter-strict.htm> BGP Bogon route-server for AUTOMATED updates of bogon filters - All bogon route-server peers have already received the appropriate BGP prefix updates. - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/bogon-rs.html> RADb fltr-unallocated fltr-martian fltr-bogons - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#radb> RIPE NCC fltr-unallocated fltr-martian fltr-bogons - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#ripe> DNS Bogon (bogons.cymru.com) zone - <http://www.cymru.com/Bogons/index.html#dns> Monitoring Bogon prefix monitoring - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/robbgp-bogon.html> Bogus ASN monitoring - <http://www.cymru.com/BGP/asnbogusrep.html> Please feel free to contact Team Cymru <team-cymru(a)cymru.com> with any comments, questions, or concerns. Thank you for your continued support. Rob, for Team Cymru. - -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com Shaving with Occam's razor since 1999. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 iQCVAwUBQks9clkX3QAo5sgJAQFCHgP/V6mR3gVMiNQ5bvkfSgsT5nkIw0bn2BJA nE4qKGQrB22WL6t83PMsMONjW7GvHJA7Ds4DVgVggTUBJ/SqupM1xQ3SBwEokHcW oydTMiUrsS1dmZMdoLoSHNdGC6hLciTgYayIO/EBI9IGoQYdR/swzgjzHXkLWghO 0C67MWkIT7M= =+ixP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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CIXP problems
by Jerome Tissieres 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Hi all, I see 9 BGP sessions down at CIXP at the same time (today @ 11h57). Anybody have info about problems there (public switch, power outage, etc..) ? Thanks, Jerome

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CableCom Contact Address
by Martin Blapp 23 Mar '05

23 Mar '05

Hi, A customer of ours has found his server blacklisted. He tried everything, mailing to abuse(a)highspeed.ch etc, he called the hotline. As usual, cablecom is not very responsable. Has someone a contact adresse (phone etc.) for me so I can solve this issue ? Please contact me off-list. Martin Martin Blapp, <mb(a)imp.ch> <mbr(a)FreeBSD.org> ------------------------------------------------------------------ ImproWare AG, UNIXSP & ISP, Zurlindenstrasse 29, 4133 Pratteln, CH Phone: +41 61 826 93 00 Fax: +41 61 826 93 01 PGP: <finger -l mbr(a)freebsd.org> PGP Fingerprint: B434 53FC C87C FE7B 0A18 B84C 8686 EF22 D300 551E ------------------------------------------------------------------

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Rejecting unknown/misconfigured mailclients
by Tobias Glasow 21 Mar '05

21 Mar '05

Hi all, Can some of you tell, how you deal with mailservers sending mail to your servers, which have not/incorrect configured dns informations? Postfix rejects mail with "reject_unknown_client", even when a ptr record exist, but forward and reverse lookup are not identical. In our logs we see this misconfiguration happen very often. When I activate blocking these clients, the reject rate nearly doubles. Just want to know, how you deal with this. Do you reject mail from clients with misconfigured dns or do you tolerate it? Regards and have a nice weekend. Mit freundlichen Grüssen Tobias Glasow ------------------------------------ Magnet.ch AG Güterstrasse 86 4053 Basel Tel.: 0842 420 420 Fax.: 0842 420 422 E-Mail: t.glasow(a)magnet.ch ----------------------------------- Ihr unabhängiger Internetprovider -----------------------------------

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Sendmail patch for non RFC conform DNS answers from bluewin
by Martin Blapp 18 Mar '05

18 Mar '05

Hi all, The recent bluewin migration to new dns load-balancers broke sendmail on BSD systems. It seems that the BSD resolver (not relevant if one uses bind8 or bind9) is different than the one in linux. I suspect that all BSD systems have this problem, including MacOSX. The following sendmail patch does work around this problem. It is not 100% correct but does work for now. --- sendmail/daemon.c.orig Thu Mar 17 10:15:11 2005 +++ sendmail/daemon.c Thu Mar 17 10:12:34 2005 @@ -2256,7 +2256,7 @@ /* check for name server timeouts */ # if NETINET6 if (WorkAroundBrokenAAAA && family == AF_INET6 && - errno == ETIMEDOUT) + (errno == ETIMEDOUT || h_errno == TRY_AGAIN)) { and of course you'll need this option in your MC File: define(`confBIND_OPTS', `WorkAroundBrokenAAAA')dnl Martin Martin Blapp, <mb(a)imp.ch> <mbr(a)FreeBSD.org> ------------------------------------------------------------------ ImproWare AG, UNIXSP & ISP, Zurlindenstrasse 29, 4133 Pratteln, CH Phone: +41 61 826 93 00 Fax: +41 61 826 93 01 PGP: <finger -l mbr(a)freebsd.org> PGP Fingerprint: B434 53FC C87C FE7B 0A18 B84C 8686 EF22 D300 551E ------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'a allaboutswisscom dumping)
by Martin Ebnöther 15 Mar '05

15 Mar '05

> -----Original Message----- > The last paragraph is rather funny. I guess, the ISPs they asked > did pay too much as well. =:-) Ahm... this wasn't the last paragraph, but the page did not load completely. =:-/ Well anyway, I mean these lines: "Mehrere Provider wurden angefragt, das skandalträchtige E-Mail in ihrem Rechner zu suchen. Aus Datenschutzgründen haben diese das Gesuch jedoch abgelehnt." CU, Venty

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RE: RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'aallab outswisscom dumping)
by Kuster, Christian 15 Mar '05

15 Mar '05

Sounds like Bablefish ;-) -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Guazzoni Daniele, CH Sent: Dienstag, 15. März 2005 11:17 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'aallab outswisscom dumping) Maybe I worked until late yesterday, maybe the coffe this mornig was'nt strong enough... I tried 5 times to read this mail and I still can't get any logical sentence out of it. If someone of you could translate the mail of Xaver maybe... Daniele -----Original Message----- From: Xaver Aerni [mailto:xaerni@pop.ch] Sent: Tuesday, 15 March, 2005 10:41 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: AW: RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'aallaboutswisscom dumping) I do not think that am umbedingt only one legal question, but none has to find the desire x-hours a needle in heap of hay. Besides with the headers and senders and receivers one comes not far... If we of ours copy which mailen is called it in the header always "Attached image" and with the sender is allways "kopierer@...." That becomes merry with looking for...:-D) But I think two migros and Swisscom has a havier problem... -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]Im Auftrag von Martin Ebnöther Gesendet: Montag, 14. März 2005 09:16 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'aallaboutswisscom dumping) > -----Original Message----- > The last paragraph is rather funny. I guess, the ISPs they asked > did pay too much as well. =:-) Ahm... this wasn't the last paragraph, but the page did not load completely. =:-/ Well anyway, I mean these lines: "Mehrere Provider wurden angefragt, das skandalträchtige E-Mail in ihrem Rechner zu suchen. Aus Datenschutzgründen haben diese das Gesuch jedoch abgelehnt." CU, Venty _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'aallab outswisscom dumping)
by Guazzoni Daniele, CH 15 Mar '05

15 Mar '05

Maybe I worked until late yesterday, maybe the coffe this mornig was'nt strong enough... I tried 5 times to read this mail and I still can't get any logical sentence out of it. If someone of you could translate the mail of Xaver maybe... Daniele -----Original Message----- From: Xaver Aerni [mailto:xaerni@pop.ch] Sent: Tuesday, 15 March, 2005 10:41 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: AW: RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'aallaboutswisscom dumping) I do not think that am umbedingt only one legal question, but none has to find the desire x-hours a needle in heap of hay. Besides with the headers and senders and receivers one comes not far... If we of ours copy which mailen is called it in the header always "Attached image" and with the sender is allways "kopierer@...." That becomes merry with looking for...:-D) But I think two migros and Swisscom has a havier problem... -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]Im Auftrag von Martin Ebnöther Gesendet: Montag, 14. März 2005 09:16 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'aallaboutswisscom dumping) > -----Original Message----- > The last paragraph is rather funny. I guess, the ISPs they asked > did pay too much as well. =:-) Ahm... this wasn't the last paragraph, but the page did not load completely. =:-/ Well anyway, I mean these lines: "Mehrere Provider wurden angefragt, das skandalträchtige E-Mail in ihrem Rechner zu suchen. Aus Datenschutzgründen haben diese das Gesuch jedoch abgelehnt." CU, Venty _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system.

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Call for presentations // SwiNOG-10
by Michel Renfer 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

Hya all! We're very happy, that Cablecom will act as sponsor for SwiNOG-10. Now, guys, we will have to fill up the agenda! Feedback, suggestions and offerings are now requirend and welcome! Please send them either to the core-team (swinog-core(a)swinog.ch) or directly to me. thx & c ya, michel

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SwiNOG 10 Sponsors
by Pascal Gloor 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

Finally we found them !!! :-) Cablecom will be the main sponsor of the event. T-Systems will sponsor the beer^H^H^H^Hsocial event. TheNet will sponsor the Wireless Internet access. More news about SwiNOG 10 soon.... If you have not yet registered, hurry up !! http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/registration.asp Pascal

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Bluewin Server auf SpamCOP und Spamhaus
by Marcel Stutz 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, Wer kann mir bei Bluewin helfe, dass sie von der SpamCop und Spamhaus Liste kommen ? Bluewin Kunden werden vom Bluewin Support falsch Informiert oder angelogen, das Bluewin keine Probleme hat mit Spam und das in unserem Fall Genotec der übeltäter ist. Wenn aber ein Mail solche Informationen enthalten sollte der Bluewin Support etwas besser Informieren können vorallem wenn das seid einer Woche der Fall ist siehe SwiNOG Post. SpamCop Remote MTA smtp.genotec.ch: SMTP diagnostic: 554 Service unavailable; [195.186.18.61] blocked using bl.spamcop.net, reason: Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?195.186.18.61 Remote MTA smtp.genotec.ch: SMTP diagnostic: 554 Service unavailable; [195.186.18.62] blocked using bl.spamcop.net, reason: Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?195.186.18.62 Remote MTA smtp.genotec.ch: SMTP diagnostic: 554 Service unavailable; [195.186.18.63] blocked using bl.spamcop.net, reason: Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?195.186.18.63 Remote MTA smtp.genotec.ch: SMTP diagnostic: 554 Service unavailable; [195.186.18.64] blocked using bl.spamcop.net, reason: Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?195.186.18.64 Remote MTA smtp.genotec.ch: SMTP diagnostic: 554 Service unavailable; [195.186.18.65] blocked using bl.spamcop.net, reason: Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?195.186.18.65 Remote MTA smtp.genotec.ch: SMTP diagnostic: 554 Service unavailable; [195.186.18.66] blocked using bl.spamcop.net, reason: Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?195.186.18.66 Spamhaus Remote MTA smtp.genotec.ch: SMTP diagnostic: 554 Service unavailable; [195.186.18.64] blocked using sbl.spamhaus.org, reason: http://www.spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL23877 Anwort die ein User von uns durch ihren Bluewin Support erhalten hat. Hier die Antwort von Bluewin zur Infformation: +++++++++ Lösung: Die Meldung "We do not relay" oder "Serverfehler 554" erscheint, wenn Sie den Bluewin-Mailserver als Relay (Transit) benützen, d.h., Sie haben sich nicht über Bluewin eingewählt. Die SMTP-Maileinstellung (ausgehender Mailserver) lautet aber auf "mail.bluewin.ch" und Sie senden Mails an eine Nicht-Bluewin-Adresse (xxxx(a)yyyy.zz statt xxxx(a)bluewin.ch). Dieses Vorgehen wird "Relaying" genannt und wird von Bluewin nicht unterstützt. (Dies nicht zuletzt aus dem Grund, dass wir unsere Kunden vor unerwünschten Massenmails oder "Spam" schützen möchten.) Um E-Mails versenden zu können, muss die SMTP-Maileinstellung dem jeweiligen Provider angepasst werden, d.h. Sie müssen den Postausgangsserver Ihres Providers eintragen. ++++++++++ Mit freundlichen Grüssen Marcel Stutz Netzwerk & Unix Administrator - ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Genotec Internet Consulting AG | E-Mail : marcel.stutz(a)genotec.ch Hegenheimermattweg 119a | Website : http://www.genotec.ch CH - 4123 Allschwil | -------------------------------- Schweiz | | Zentrale: +41 61 487 99 99 - ------------------------------- | Fax : +41 61 487 99 98 | Support : 0848 321 123 easy[hosting] | 500 MB, unl.Pointings, | -------------------------------- Subdomains und E-mails, | Supportanfragen bitte immer an Internetzugang und mehr | support(a)genotec.ch SFr. 150/Jahr | Web: http://support.genotec.ch | - ------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQhQ/WG67Rst+AWkCEQJL6QCcDDSPqOSKBzp9SXlUhdhnAIOJMBIAoL/I DsjWLARpwRufbVAvFwUT09IE =AJDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'a all aboutswisscom dumping)
by Martin Ebnöther 14 Mar '05

14 Mar '05

> -----Original Message----- > Fredy Kuenzler wrote: Hallo. > Sonntagszeitung claims yesterday that WEKO is investigation against > Swisscom because of the Migros contract. > http://www.sonntagszeitung.ch/dyn/news/wirtschaft/477677.html The last paragraph is rather funny. I guess, the ISPs they asked did pay too much as well. =:-) CU, Venty

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AS1257 - additional routes
by Per Lundberg 11 Mar '05

11 Mar '05

Hello, TELE2/SWIPnet (AS1257) will start to announce AS-UTA (AS8437) by next week, as the network merge is proceeding. Please mind that we also have begun announcing AS8807, whom we have acquired. We will announce approx 1600 prefix. Please update you filters accordingly. wish you all a nice weekend cheers Per -- Per Lundberg - TELE2 Sverige AB/SWIPNET Peering coordinator - Internet Core & Services PERL-RIPE - Box 62 S-164 94 KISTA SE +---------------------------------------------+ | T E L E 2 - AS1257 since 1991 | +---------------------------------------------+ W: +46 8 5626 4579 E: per(a)swip.net M: +46 704 26 4579 E: per(a)tele2.net F: +46 8 5626 4210 E: per.lundberg(a)tele2.com

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Looking for some used equipement
by Michel Renfer 11 Mar '05

11 Mar '05

Hya All I'm looking for private purposes for the following equipement: - Cisco Switch with GBIC Slot - 2 LX GBIC - 2 Fibre Cables E2000-SC Please contact me off-list for any further questions or offers ;-) cheers, michel

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Missing sponsor for SwiNOG#10
by Pascal Gloor 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

Dear SwiNOGers, 6 weeks away of our next SwiNOG event, none proposed a definitive sponsoring of the event. Sponsoring SwiNOG will cost you about 4000CHF. You may be two or three companies to share the cost of the sponsoring. Please let me know if you are READY to sponsor at least 2000 CHF for the event. If we dont find any sponsor until NEXT TUESDAY, we will, unfortunatly, have to CANCEL the event!! :-/ Regards, Pascal SwiNOG-CoreTeam

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ISDN Layer 2 Problem
by Beat Rubischon 10 Mar '05

10 Mar '05

Hello! I'm trying to configure a ISDN backup link on a Cisco. Each time I reset the BRI it takes about 15 seconds until the session will be terminated from the Swisscom's side. Call out is only possible (but working) during this 15 second time frame. Layer 1 is activated permanently since several years and working OK. Following [1], I debugged the link: [1] http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/129/bri-layer2.html ---8<--- Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: User TX -> IDREQ ri=44602 ai=127 Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: User RX <- IDASSN ri=44602 ai=89 Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: L2_EstablishDataLink: sending SABME Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: User TX -> SABMEp sapi=0 tei=89 Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: User RX <- UAf sapi=0 tei=89 Mar 1 01:26:39: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 89 changed to up Mar 1 01:26:49: ISDN BR0 Q921: User RX <- RRp sapi=0 tei=89 nr=0 Mar 1 01:26:49: ISDN BR0 Q921: User TX -> RRf sapi=0 tei=89 nr=0 Mar 1 01:26:54: ISDN BR0 Q921: User RX <- DISCp sapi=0 tei=89 Mar 1 01:26:54: %ISDN-6-LAYER2DOWN: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 89 changed to down Mar 1 01:26:54: ISDN BR0 Q921: User TX -> UAf sapi=0 tei=89 Mar 1 01:26:54: ISDN BR0 Q921: L2_EstablishDataLink: DISC received & not Passive-shutdown SABME will not be sent. ---8<--- Cisco says "If the DISC message originated from the ISDN switch, contact the telco." But on the Swisscom-side, nobody is able to understand my problem or willing to help. Any hint what I should say to the "Swisskomiker" to get the right solution? Anyone here who knows a magic keyword in IOS to disable the need for a permanent Layer 2 connection? Thanks! Beat -- Beat Rubischon \|/ See http://www.rubis.ch/~beat/ for <beat(a)rubis.ch> ( 0^0 ) snail- & e-mail, phone, fax & PGP ---------------oOO--(_)--OOo---------------------------------- # wigwam.lugs.ch, Linux 2.4.29-rc2, up 49 days, 0:52, load: 0.24

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Job: "Application Support Analyst"
by Nicolas FISCHBACH 09 Mar '05

09 Mar '05

Since we have a lot of *NIX people on this list I thought I may post this job offer: The position is in the technical billing team (in Zurich), the key skills are in the field of UNIX, shell/Perl scripting. (PL/)SQL is a plus and Progressor knowledge a plus plus. Juniors are welcome. Please contact Anna Feller (anne dot feller at colt dot ch - 015600608) if you want more details. Nico. -- Nicolas FISCHBACH (nico(a)securite.org) <http://www.securite.org/nico/> Senior Manager - IP Engineering/Security - COLT Telecom Securite.Org Team <http://www.securite.org/>

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AW: [swinog] New member ;)
by Bernet Nicole 07 Mar '05

07 Mar '05

Hi Salome & Everybody, Juppiiii!!! Finally another lady who's willing to join - Welcome to the club! Cheers, -Nicole ________________________________ Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Kuster, Christian Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. März 2005 14:19 An: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch' Betreff: RE: [swinog] New member ;) Hi Salome Nicole probably is very happy not to be the only woman anymore :-) You are very welcome... Cheers Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Salome Baumann Sent: Dienstag, 1. März 2005 14:17 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] New member ;) Hi all I'm new to this list so I'd like to send you a short hello. My name is Salome and I'm a 25 years old lady :) I worked for one year in a network team at HP (configuring Cisco devices and stuff). At the moment I work as a hardware supporter but I don't like it at all, so I decided to quit and now I'm looking for a job in the Cisco environment again. I subscribed to this list because I hope to meet other networking people and to improve my technical knowledge :) Hmmm - about the beer event... I'm always interested in beer ;) is it ok when I join? Kind regards, Salome -- ...you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free! _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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SwiNOG-10 / 20th april 2005
by Michel Renfer 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

Dear friends! We are very happy to open the registration for SwiNOG-10. The meeting will be held at the 20th april 2005 in Berne. Acutally we have some space left in the agenda. Please let us know, if you would present a topic of interest. Of course, we have still one sponsoring partner open. Please contact us (swinog-core(a)swinog.ch), if you are interested in sponsoring SwiNOG-10. cheers, michel

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RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem
by Kuster, Christian 04 Mar '05

04 Mar '05

This was once an issue some time ago... Should not be anymore...We use 837's without Layer 2 permanently on. Hmm, yep, I would try another IOS,we use 12.2.13ZH2, although this one has an issue with NAT of PPTP sessions, but who's using PPTP ;-) I also tested 12.3(8)T4 which also gives no problem... If you should still have a problem after that, you still can ask Swisscom to keep layer 2 up. Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Lukas Krattiger (NOC) Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 23:32 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem Hi Beat I agree to Roger. There is a power-save mode which affects the ISDN-Layer2. At least the BRI's from the old cisco2500 needed this feature, otherwise I saw the same behaviour. Go and ask Swisscom, they should activate the Layer2. Cheers -Lukas -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Roger Buchwalder Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 23:12 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem Hello Beat I remember, we had also some problems with ZyXEL-ISDN-Routers. We call then to the Swisscom, they may put the Layer 2 always to "on"-state. Maybe it helps? rog Beat Rubischon schrieb: > Hello! > > Am 03.03.05 schrieb Beat Rubischon: > > >>I'm trying to configure a ISDN backup link on a Cisco. > > > First, thanks a lot for your ideas. I have now debugged a lot and my > results are the following: > > - It's not a problem in the wiring or termination. > > - Dial-Out is possible when Layer 2 is in state > "MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED" (aka an running call) > or "NOT Activated" (not initialized yet) > > - Dial-Out is not possible when Layer 2 is in state > "TEI_ASSIGNED", debugging shows that the communication > simple times out. > > I assume now a bug in the IOS - 12.3(8)YA [1] is an early deployment > release. I hope to get my service contract soon to access other > images. > > [1] > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps5413/prod_bulletin09 > 00aecd80157bb5.html > > A disconnect of the S-Bus resets the Layer 2 and with the setting > "isdn tei-negotiation first-call" no new TEI is allocated. So I will > try to switch off Layer 1 - each time Swisscom shuts down Layer 1, my > BRI would be resetted :-) > > May be someone has another idea. I have put the config and a logfile > on [2]. > > [2] http://www.rubis.ch/isdn/ > > Beat > _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem
by Bangerter Markus 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hi >I reset the BRI it takes about 15 seconds until the session will >be terminated from the Swisscom's side. Call out is only possible >(but working) during this 15 second time frame. If you do a cle int bri xy, then it's a normal behaviour. It will take some time until the remote receives the disc from main-site. ISDN-Layer-2 has not to be up all the time. It's only up (MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED) if a call is established. Is your isdn-router connected directly to an NT or behind A pbx ? (what type of pbx) Markus

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RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem
by Kuster, Christian 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hmm, strange... I mean it's normal that L2 deactivates... But the router should activate again (renegotiate TEI) if another call takes place (and yours is not) And in debug output, nothing seems to happen. Looks to me at he first glance as a local problem to the router... Try once the additional command on the BRI interface : isdn tei-negotiation preserve If that does not help, try again to establish a call with the following debig option turned on : debug isdn q921 debug isdn q931 debug isdn events debug bri Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Beat Rubischon Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 15:50 To: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch' Subject: RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem Hello! Am 03.03.05 schrieb Kuster, Christian: > What is the debugging output (or error message) if you try to establish a > call? > That should bring Layer 2 up again (but it isn't as you say) I have set up a webpage with two debug-logs: http://www.rubis.ch/isdn.html In the first case, I reset the interface and trigger the dial-out immediatly. Everything works fine. In the second case, I reset the interface and wait for the disconnect of Layer 2. Then I trigger the dial-out which wont work. Beat -- Beat Rubischon \|/ See http://www.rubis.ch/~beat/ for <beat(a)rubis.ch> ( 0^0 ) snail- & e-mail, phone, fax & PGP ---------------oOO--(_)--OOo---------------------------------- # wigwam.lugs.ch, Linux 2.4.29-rc2, up 49 days, 2:27, load: 0.17 _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem
by Kuster, Christian 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Hi It probably will help very much if you say : what router, what IOS version what BRI interface config you use... Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Beat Rubischon Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 14:22 To: SWINOG Mailing List Subject: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem Hello! I'm trying to configure a ISDN backup link on a Cisco. Each time I reset the BRI it takes about 15 seconds until the session will be terminated from the Swisscom's side. Call out is only possible (but working) during this 15 second time frame. Layer 1 is activated permanently since several years and working OK. Following [1], I debugged the link: [1] http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/129/bri-layer2.html ---8<--- Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: User TX -> IDREQ ri=44602 ai=127 Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: User RX <- IDASSN ri=44602 ai=89 Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: L2_EstablishDataLink: sending SABME Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: User TX -> SABMEp sapi=0 tei=89 Mar 1 01:26:39: ISDN BR0 Q921: User RX <- UAf sapi=0 tei=89 Mar 1 01:26:39: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 89 changed to up Mar 1 01:26:49: ISDN BR0 Q921: User RX <- RRp sapi=0 tei=89 nr=0 Mar 1 01:26:49: ISDN BR0 Q921: User TX -> RRf sapi=0 tei=89 nr=0 Mar 1 01:26:54: ISDN BR0 Q921: User RX <- DISCp sapi=0 tei=89 Mar 1 01:26:54: %ISDN-6-LAYER2DOWN: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 89 changed to down Mar 1 01:26:54: ISDN BR0 Q921: User TX -> UAf sapi=0 tei=89 Mar 1 01:26:54: ISDN BR0 Q921: L2_EstablishDataLink: DISC received & not Passive-shutdown SABME will not be sent. ---8<--- Cisco says "If the DISC message originated from the ISDN switch, contact the telco." But on the Swisscom-side, nobody is able to understand my problem or willing to help. Any hint what I should say to the "Swisskomiker" to get the right solution? Anyone here who knows a magic keyword in IOS to disable the need for a permanent Layer 2 connection? Thanks! Beat -- Beat Rubischon \|/ See http://www.rubis.ch/~beat/ for <beat(a)rubis.ch> ( 0^0 ) snail- & e-mail, phone, fax & PGP ---------------oOO--(_)--OOo---------------------------------- # wigwam.lugs.ch, Linux 2.4.29-rc2, up 49 days, 0:52, load: 0.24 _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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