A sunny good morning everybody!
I just got my hands on Swisscom "Mobile Internet" using Sierra Wireless Compass 855.
With the "normal" "private" mode they put you in some 10/8 network and do NAT.
Just as a normal 08/15 I experienced that booking a ticket on sbb.ch can be almost impossible, as sbb.ch either has a session handling problem or swisscom has a nat handling problem (maybe a bit of both). Interestingly, I also often experience the "your session is invalid/timed out" message from sbb, when just accessing the timetable function.
Other than that I see that my (idle) ssh connections get cut (600 seconds works < cut < 1000 seconds idle does not work).
As far as I can remember, Orange always provides you with a non-rfc1918 ipn.
Can somebody confirm that behaviour and/or report what happens with the other providers?
I am now testing their "Corporate Application Access", which simply means "got a real username, got a real password and a different apn" which results in a (fixed?) non-natted ipn.
Sincerly,
Nico
I can completely confirm that.
fyi, the easiest is Sunrise Takeaway - just change the APN to "remote" and call the Hotline to put you on the "VPN Acccess"
(no cost)
Orange was never able to provide me a public IP.
can you tell me how to get that done with swisscom?
Silvan
Am 07.11.2008 um 11:51 schrieb Nico -telmich- Schottelius:
A sunny good morning everybody!
I just got my hands on Swisscom "Mobile Internet" using Sierra Wireless Compass 855.
With the "normal" "private" mode they put you in some 10/8 network and do NAT.
Just as a normal 08/15 I experienced that booking a ticket on sbb.ch can be almost impossible, as sbb.ch either has a session handling problem or swisscom has a nat handling problem (maybe a bit of both). Interestingly, I also often experience the "your session is invalid/ timed out" message from sbb, when just accessing the timetable function.
Other than that I see that my (idle) ssh connections get cut (600 seconds works < cut < 1000 seconds idle does not work).
As far as I can remember, Orange always provides you with a non- rfc1918 ipn.
Can somebody confirm that behaviour and/or report what happens with the other providers?
I am now testing their "Corporate Application Access", which simply means "got a real username, got a real password and a different apn" which results in a (fixed?) non-natted ipn.
Sincerly,
Nico
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Silvan Gebhardt [Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 11:58:50AM +0100]:
I can completely confirm that.
That's good, because swisscom hotline claims that they *NEVER* had this problem. Maybe something somebody put on a blog so other people know what they can expect.
fyi, the easiest is Sunrise Takeaway - just change the APN to "remote" and call the Hotline to put you on the "VPN Acccess"
(no cost)
That sounds good! Maybe I'll give that a try.
Orange was never able to provide me a public IP.
I am not sure whether this was because of the state "business customer" or via default (it's about 6 month ago).
can you tell me how to get that done with swisscom?
I called the hotline and told them about my problems; then they told me to click start and enter "cmd" and I told them that I am not running windows, but they can tell me what they want me to check. Then he told me that he does not know what to check, just the commands to enter, which he would not tell me, because I don't have windows. Sigh. So I was pushed to 2nd level support. Re-explained that guy the problem and he stated he's to forward it to somebody else.
One day after that (today morning) I was called back, re-explained the issue and stated that I think that the nat is the problem. Took me about 10 minutes arguing that this in not Linux' fault. Then he send me a useraccount/password/apn to use for testing and I should give him feedback in a few days.
Sincerly,
Nico
Salut, Nico,
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:51:14 +0100, Nico -telmich- Schottelius wrote:
Just as a normal 08/15 I experienced that booking a ticket on sbb.ch can be almost impossible, as sbb.ch either has a session handling problem or swisscom has a nat handling problem (maybe a bit of both). Interestingly, I also often experience the "your session is invalid/timed out" message from sbb, when just accessing the timetable function.
I can absolutely not confirm this I'm afraid... Everything seems to be working fine.
Tonnerre
I got the experience with heavy-used webpages like e.g facebook - if you're trying to hit it from a normal PC via UMTS on orange, there must be so many people online my session normally "Timeout" after less than a minute which is defintely not my problem, also it's sometimes that overloaded that it brings me the message (OTHER SITES TOO!) that I should enable cookies in my browser!)
I guess sometimes the problem is that it has problem with the tracking of the cookies and kickes out random users as there might be thousands from the same IP
(e.g Facebook has an iPhone plugin which probably hundreds or thousands use)
silvan
Am 09.11.2008 um 03:07 schrieb Tonnerre Lombard:
Salut, Nico,
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:51:14 +0100, Nico -telmich- Schottelius wrote:
Just as a normal 08/15 I experienced that booking a ticket on sbb.ch can be almost impossible, as sbb.ch either has a session handling problem or swisscom has a nat handling problem (maybe a bit of both). Interestingly, I also often experience the "your session is invalid/timed out" message from sbb, when just accessing the timetable function.
I can absolutely not confirm this I'm afraid... Everything seems to be working fine.
Tonnerre
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