hi fredy
it's nice to see that you have started now a successful career in the journalism and politics. s
"..thanks for using the blogg2swinog mailgateway for updating my links..."
sorry freddy, but don't you think you can write normal e-mails to the mailinglist or do you just keep on pasting links? are you so keen to push your motz-blogg on top of the google ranking? i think, people who wants to read your blogg will do - and people who don't want will not. there was a nice invention some time ago called RSS-feeds.
i personally thought at the beginning: well, a nice blogg to cover the interests of the swiss internet community. but now i have to admit, that it seems that this is your personal newsletter to gruble against everyone (aka enemies - i mean 'public' enemies). we all know now that you don't like sunrise, swisscom, cablecom, solnet, etc.
to take out a short statistic from the last 20 entries of your blog: - 1 positive message (wimax) - 1 neutral message (swinog #11 - ok, we're all alkies ;-)) - 1 ad (multihomed; it's your right - it's your blog :)) - 15 motz, complain and information about swisscom/sunrise/cablecom/switch/etc. - 2 informations about (possible) bankrupties (comparis.ch/webspace4you)
the one really funny entry i remember was the one with the broken /dev/null device.
so, please keep in mind that blog's are more or less personal diaries. if you want to really discuss swiss network stuff please use the mailinglist - i will not use your blogg for discussing internet/swinog related topics.
so, this is just my personal opinion (and i told you this already some weeks ago whereupon you wrote the /dev/null-thing; this means that my opinion has nothing to do with the fact that cybernet has bought by swisscom).
-steven
-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 12:10 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] WEKO versus Swisscom regarding ADSL: Verfügung online
The WEKO paper (Verfügung) is now ready for download: http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/147-WEKO-Verfuegung-in -Sachen-ADSL-gegen-Swisscom-im-Wortlaut.html (German)
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Hi Steven,
Glogger Steven wrote:
sorry freddy, but don't you think you can write normal e-mails to the mailinglist or do you just keep on pasting links? are you so keen to push your motz-blogg on top of the google ranking?
Actually I didn't consider this at all, but thanks for the pointer.
i think, people who wants to read your blogg will do - and people who don't want will not. there was a nice invention some time ago called RSS-feeds.
ACK. RSS feeds are availabe. But I consider the number of clicks as a real interest - +100 clicks in just one hour after sending the link to SwiNOG. Obviously not many have subscribed to RSS yet.
i personally thought at the beginning: well, a nice blogg to cover the interests of the swiss internet community. but now i have to admit, that it seems that this is your personal newsletter to gruble against everyone (aka enemies - i mean 'public' enemies). we all know now that you don't like sunrise, swisscom, cablecom, solnet, etc.
Wrong. I consider all of them as valuable and respectful competitors, sometime partners or even friends, too (not the companies, but their employees). But I consider a fair market with equal opportunities a necessity. And we all know this is by far not the case in Switzerland.
to take out a short statistic from the last 20 entries of your blog:
- 1 positive message (wimax)
- 1 neutral message (swinog #11 - ok, we're all alkies ;-))
- 1 ad (multihomed; it's your right - it's your blog :))
- 15 motz, complain and information about
swisscom/sunrise/cablecom/switch/etc.
- 2 informations about (possible) bankrupties
(comparis.ch/webspace4you)
Well, thanks for the statistics. But I have to say that you didn't read really careful (comparis.ch is _not_ a bankrupt, the ad was not only an ad, rather a message of Gartner). Those so called 'motz' are much more information about probably not very nice news, execpt only a few (Bluewin Liebesbrief for instance).
It's not me who sets most of the topics. You don't blame the journalist reporting the deads of a hurricane, right? If you cannot stand the message, you shouldn't shoot the messenger.
the one really funny entry i remember was the one with the broken /dev/null device.
It's not my intention to be funny. There are much better sources for fun.
so, please keep in mind that blog's are more or less personal diaries. if you want to really discuss swiss network stuff please use the mailinglist - i will not use your blogg for discussing internet/swinog related topics.
blogg.ch doesn't have to be only personal. It's - as the subtitle says: "Insider-Informationen über Schweizer Internet Service Provider. Entwicklungen und Trends, Gerüchte, Diagnosen und Prognosen."
Consider it as a comment column in a newspaper. I really try to stick to the truth, but I will always mix my personal opinion to the facts. I don't consider it as a normal newsticker, and I'd be selective with topics I consider intersting.
You can agree to my angle of view, or you don't. You can read it, or you don't. It's really your choice.
I will try only to post really important stuff from blogg.ch to swinog - as the latest topic (WEKO Verfügung, whole text). This is IMHO an important topic, unless you don't consider your workplace important.
Hope this clarifies my motivation. Fredy.
Hi Fredy,
Please go on with your Blogg.ch, it's always very interesting and informative!
OK, the posting of the URLS into this mailing list is maybe not the right choice... maybe in IRC?
How are the others thinking?
Peter
Hi
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 17:53 +0200, Peter Baumann wrote:
Hi Fredy,
Please go on with your Blogg.ch, it's always very interesting and informative!
The most important thing, it gives you a reason to hate Swisscom. Before it was just some kind of antipathy, with no actual reason. :)
OK, the posting of the URLS into this mailing list is maybe not the right choice... maybe in IRC?
I like getting the links via swinog since I don't use the RSS feeds.
How are the others thinking?
Peter
Sandro
Hi,
I'll just throw my " frenchy " point of view.
I like that blog & news ideas quite much, I spend throwing links on irc (ok not #swinog) all day long anyway
But the problem that keeps me away from those, I guess, interessting news, is that they are in german. And sorry about that, but I'm still not able to read that language correctly.
So what about pasting something (on irc why not) worldwide readable ? ;)
PS : That may also be why I'm not on #swinog anymore, btw ... :)
Peter Baumann wrote:
Please go on with your Blogg.ch, it's always very interesting and informative!
OK, the posting of the URLS into this mailing list is maybe not the right choice... maybe in IRC?
How are the others thinking?
On the Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 05:53:28PM +0200, Peter Baumann blubbered:
Hallo.
Please go on with your Blogg.ch, it's always very interesting and informative!
Hell yeah, don't stop.
OK, the posting of the URLS into this mailing list is maybe not the right choice... maybe in IRC?
If it IS News, I'd say yes. But having posted the URL to every new story is probably a bit too much. Can get annoying very fast.
How are the others thinking?
Well, either I read it on Symlink[1] or it just is not important!
CU, Venty
[1] http://www.symlink.ch/ (Been a Blog, before Blogs were called Blogs!)