it would only be fair if swisscom declare their offer not to be "internet" but some "protected network connectivity including part of the internet". At least then the end user can decide. I don't think their concept is compatible with net neutrality otherwise.
And you can not opt-in or opt-out if you are not aware.
On 23 Apr 2024, at 12:30, Marc SCHAEFER via swinog swinog@lists.swinog.ch wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 10:04:14AM +0200, Stefan via swinog wrote:
But you know that it is already daily business that Swiss ISP's are blocking websites?
One of the example you give was voted by the Swiss people (Casino blocking). ISP have no say in that matter. Some countries go way further in blocking "content" (as was mentionned on the list earlier).
But here, we are discussing additional security measures that some ISPs, including Swisscom, are taking: Swiss people did not vote yet about blocking malware.
And Swisscom also blocks / intercepts / redirects SMTP for quite a few years now, for end users. On port 25 (not on 587 nor 465 AFAIK). I think they are pretty unique in that aspect (other ISPs usually simply block incoming port 25, they don't AFAIK filter out outgoing).
Use other DNS-Servers if you want to be "free", but accept the risk.
That could be a solution: an opt-out. It *seems* to me that Sunrise, e.g., actually even offers an opt-in, as their firewalling service is usually valued at 5 CHF/month but in essence free to the end user (not sure what it really does) and can be refused when ordering.
In my opinion, the most important thing is that the blocking be documented to the end-user, even on every month's invoice, and that opt-out (or opt-in) be offered for everything that is not compulsory by law.
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