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Fwd: [MBONED] PIM survey for operators
by Thomas Kernen 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

FYI. May be of interest to some of the operators in Switzerland. Regards, Thomas -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [MBONED] PIM survey for operators Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 10:39:58 -1000 (HST) Resent-From: Antonio Querubin <tony(a)lavanauts.org> Resent-To: nanog(a)nanog.org Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:21:41 -0700 From: Stig Venaas <stig(a)venaas.com> To: MBONED WG <mboned(a)ietf.org> The IETF pim working group is conducting a survey in order to advance the PIM Sparse Mode spec on the IETF Standards Track, and would like input from operators. The survey ends July 20th. Please see below for more information. thank you, pim chairs Mike & Stig Introduction: PIM-SM was first published as RFC 2117 in 1997 and then again as RFC 2362 in 1998. The protocol was classified as Experimental in both of these documents. The PIM-SM protocol specification was then rewritten in whole and advanced to Proposed Standard as RFC 4601 in 2006. Considering the multiple independent implementations developed and the successful operational experience gained, the IETF has decided to advance the PIM-SM routing protocol to Draft Standard. This survey intends to provide supporting documentation to advance the Protocol Independent Multicast - Sparse Mode (PIM-SM) routing protocol from IETF Proposed Standard to Draft Standard. (Due to RFC 6410, now the intention is to progress it to Internet Standard. Draft Standard is no longer used.) This survey is issued on behalf of the IETF PIM Working Group. The responses will be collected by a neutral third-party and kept strictly confidential; only the final combined results will be published. Marshall Eubanks has agreed to anonymize the response to this Questionnaire. Marshall has a long experience with Multicast but has no direct financial interest in this matter, nor ties to any of the vendors involved. He is also a member of the IAOC, Chair of the IETF Trust and co-chair of the IETF Layer 3 VPN Working Group. Please send Questionnaire responses to his email address, marshall.eubanks(a)gmail.com. He requests that such responses include the string "RFC 4601 bis Questionnaire" in the subject field. Before answering the questions, please comple the following background information. Name of the Respondent: Affliation/Organization: Contact Email: Provide description of PIM deployment: Do you wish to keep the information provided confidential: Questions: 1 Have you deployed PIM-SM in your network? 2 How long have you had PIM-SM deployed in your network? Do you know if your deployment is based on the most recent RFC4601? 3 Have you deployed PIM-SM for IPv6 in your network? 4 Are you using equipment with different (multi-vendor) PIM-SM implementations for your deployment? 5 Have you encountered any inter-operability or backward- compatibility issues amongst differing implementations? If yes, what are your concerns about these issues? 6 Have you deployed both dense mode and sparse mode in your network? If yes, do you route between these modes using features such as *,*,RP or PMBR? 7 To what extent have you deployed PIM functionality, like BSR, SSM, and Explicit Tracking? 8 Which RP mapping mechanism do you use: Static, AutoRP, or BSR? 9 How many RPs have you deployed in your network? 10 If you use Anycast-RP, is it Anycast-RP using MSDP (RFC 3446) or Anycast-RP using PIM (RFC 4610)? 11 Do you have any other comments on PIM-SM deployment in your network? _______________________________________________ MBONED mailing list MBONED(a)ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned

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open VoIP technology workshop
by Stanislav Sinyagin 20 Jun '12

20 Jun '12

hi, I'm organizing an open, English-spoken, workshop on the topics of VoIP service redundancy: htto://trrtrr.net If you're interested to join, please vote in Doodle: http://doodle.com/gvmswcx5nridzidf cheers, stan

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Re: [swinog] Reverse zone lookup issues
by Daniel Rechsteiner 14 Jun '12

14 Jun '12

> Does anyone still experiencing problems with this RIPE issue? > https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/service-announcements/reverse-dns-service… Yes, we do. I hope RIPE fixes that asap. PTR records are quite important for SMTP servers. Daniel

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Reverse zone lookup issues
by Adrian Kägi 14 Jun '12

14 Jun '12

Hi list Does anyone still experiencing problems with this RIPE issue? https://www.ripe.net/lir-services/service-announcements/reverse-dns-service… Or some known issues yesterday? Regards Adrian

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Verkauf von Blade Server, 48v Netzteile, DLAMs
by Verkauf 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Sehr geehrte Swinog-Community Wir bieten folgende Hardware zum Kauf an: HP Blade: - 2x Cisco GESM HP Blade System - 3x HP BL20p G3 - 2x HP BL25p - 2x HP BL20p G 48V power supply - SP-320-48 48V power supply - SP-320-48 ZyXEL DLSAM: IES-2000: - MSC1000A - SLC1224-22 (shdsl line card) ZyXEL DLSAM: IES-2000: - MSC1000A - SLC1224-22 (shdsl line card) - ALC1224-71 (adsl line card) Bilder werden gerne auf anfrage zugestellt. Bei Interesse melden Sie sich bitte per Mail an folgende Adresse: verkauf(a)gmail.li Freundliche Grüsse

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Gerty vs. Rancid
by Tobias Brunner 11 Jun '12

11 Jun '12

Hi list Is anyone of you using Gerty (https://github.com/ssinyagin/gerty) instead of Rancid for doing network gear config backup? If yes, is it worth a try? And for doing mass-config-updates on many switches, is it also usable? Thanks for every input =) Cheers, Tobias -- Nine Internet Solutions AG, Albisriederstr. 243a, CH-8047 Zuerich Support +41 44 637 40 40 | Tel +41 44 637 40 00 | Direct +41 44 637 40 13 Skype nine.ch_support

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hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
by Silvan M. Gebhardt 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Hi Swinogers, I'm currently thinking about deploying a Sheevaplug or similar with mosh (http://mosh.mit.edu) as a login jumphost since I am several hours in mobile mode every day and I need a space outside of my network to host a *jump host* please contact me offlist and offer me housing for something like that: http://www.plugcomputer.eu/ All I am taking up is some bandwith (expected bandwith in average probably 1mbit max, half of it for keepalives for outbound vpn tunnels, Power consumption apparently less than 10watts. Need v6 and v4 connection, 1 IP each, public, not firewalled, 1 Plug in the power strip Since this is a rather non-standard thing I'm looking for, but I need it in a datacenter outside my infrastructure, I thought it's best to ask here. Btw, for anyone experienced already or looking into mosh, looking forward for exchange here Good Evening! Silvan

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Re: [swinog] "arping" for IPv6 (list cleanup)
by Tobias Brunner 05 Jun '12

05 Jun '12

Good Morning Everyone > $ ndisc6 2001:4f8:3:2e::1 eth0 > Soliciting 2001:4f8:3:2e::1 (2001:4f8:3:2e::1) on eth0... > Target link-layer address: 00:11:BC:A5:48:00 > > from 2001:4f8:3:2e::1 > > Do note that if the address does not exist you get what you showed: > > $ ndisc6 2001:4f8:3:2e::2 eth0 > Soliciting 2001:4f8:3:2e::2 (2001:4f8:3:2e::2) on eth0... > Timed out. > Timed out. > Timed out. > No response. My goal is to have an equivalent to "arping -U <my-ipv4-configured-on-eth0> -I eth0" to do a "Unsolicited ARP mode, update your neighbours". When I run "ndisc6 <ipv6-of-a-neighbor> eth0" I get the response. But when I do a "ndisc6 <my-ipv6-configured-on-my-eth0> eth0" I get the "Timed out". Maybe I don't understand it correctly =( > 'ip nei' can be used to look at the current entries, it does not allow > for sending a ND solication, but effectively one can also do: > > in one shell: tcpdump -i eth0 icmp6 > in another: ping6 -i eth0 <address> > > should give you the packets too unless it is cached, but then you can > remove it with 'ip nei flush ...' to force it to be cached again. > > Note that 'ip -4 nei' is effectively showing the ARP tables, while 'ip > -6 nei' is for the ND based information. Thanks! I like the "ip" tool more and more... =) > > gcc -o ndping ndping.c -Wall -lnet -lpcap > > ndping.c: In function ‘callback’: > > ndping.c:65: error: ‘LIBNET_ICMPV6_NS_H’ undeclared (first use in this > > function) > > You need to install the libnet headers for that to work. I've installed "libpcap0.8-dev" and "libnet1-dev" (debian squeeze). Maybe I miss another -dev package, but I can't find which one is missing =( Cheers, Tobias PS: I thought I should cleanup the list and write a new message to not "penetrate" the thread "hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port" anymore =) Sorry for the inconvience and for switching the language in the thread. -- Nine Internet Solutions AG, Albisriederstr. 243a, CH-8047 Zuerich Support +41 44 637 40 40 | Tel +41 44 637 40 00 | Direct +41 44 637 40 13 Skype nine.ch_support

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SwiNOG-BE110 - Beer Event 110 - 4th of June 2012 @ Outback Lodge / ZH
by Steven Glogger 03 Jun '12

03 Jun '12

hi everybody here's the announcement for the next beer event: (yes, sorry this is short :-/) the facts for the next event: ----------------------------- Date: 4th of June 2012 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Outback" Bahnhof Stadelhofen Registration deadline: 04.06.2012 12:00:00 Registration URL: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ ----------------------------- i've reserved for 6 people, if there are more I need to hurry up to change the reservation :) since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap (+41 79 277 92 35). greetings -steven PS: Already registered participants: ----------------------------------------------------------------- 03.06.2012 - 19:52:19 Steven Glogger (Swisscom) Comment: -----------------------------------------------------------------

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RIPE 65: Call for Papers
by Pascal Gloor 30 May '12

30 May '12

On behalf of the RIPE Programme Committee: > ------------------- > > Call for Papers: RIPE 65 > > A RIPE Meeting is an open event where Internet Service Providers, > network operators and other interested parties get together. Although > the meeting is mostly technical, it is also a chance for people to > meet and network with others in their field. > > RIPE 65 will take place on 24-28 September 2012 in Amsterdam, Netherlands. > > The RIPE Programme Committee (PC) is now seeking content proposals > from the RIPE community for the Plenary, BoF and tutorial sessions at > RIPE 65. The PC is looking for presentations covering topics of > network engineering and operations, including but not limited to: > > - IPv6 deployment > - Managing IPv4 scarcity in operations > - Commercial transactions of IPv4 addresses > - Data center technologies > - Network and DNS operations > - Internet governance and regulatory practices > - Network and routing security > - Content delivery > - Internet peering and mobile data exchange > > > Submissions > > Attendees of the RIPE meetings are quite sensitive to keeping > presentations non-commercial, and product marketing talks are strongly > discouraged. Repeated audience feedback shows that the most successful > talks focus on operational experience, research results, or case > studies. For example, presenters wishing to describe a commercial > solution should focus on the underlying technology and not attempt a > product demonstration. > > Presenters who are proposing a panel or BoF are encouraged to include > speakers from several (perhaps even competing) companies and/or a > neutral facilitator. > > In addition to presentations selected in advance for the Plenary, the > RIPE PC also offers several time slots for “lightning talks” which are > selected immediately before or during the conference. > > The following requirements apply: > > - Proposals for talks, BoFs and panels must be submitted for full > consideration no later than 1 July 2012, using the meeting submission > system at: > > https://meetings.ripe.net/pc/ > > Proposals submitted after this date will be considered on a > space-available basis. > > - Presenters should indicate how much time they will require (30 > minutes for talks is a common maximum duration, although some talks > can be longer). > > - Proposals for talks will only be considered by the PC if they > contain at least draft presentation slides (slides may be updated > later on). For BoFs and panels proposals must contain a clear > description as well as names of invited panelists/presenters. > > - Due to potential technical issues, it is expected that most if not > all presenters/panelists will be physically present at the RIPE > meeting. > > - Lightning talks should be submitted using the meeting submission > system. They must be short (10 minutes maximum) and often involve more > timely topics. They can be submitted at any time. The allocation of > lightning talk slots will be announced one day prior to the relevant > session. > > If you have any questions or requests concerning content submissions, > please email pc [at] ripe [dot] net.

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Platform for open audio workshops
by Stanislav Sinyagin 30 May '12

30 May '12

while we're on the get-together topic :) I've built a small platform for audio seminars and workshops: http://trrtrr.net The primary goal was to set up discussions on IP telephony technologies (hence the name), but I'm completely open and if someone has a good topic for discussion, I'll gladly pass the moderator credentials. The conferences are automatically recorded, and then can be easily published somewhere like SoundCloud. cheers, stan

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tgif: Friday 1. june Unser Bier in Basel
by Miguel Elias 29 May '12

29 May '12

Oh sorry, I forgot the English speaking readers of the list. ========= Hi to all, Last swinog meeting some colleges thought, it is time again to organice a informal get-to-gather near Basel. Mathias Seiler and me did have "unser Bier" in mind for the location. (A location with almost infinite amount of beer. :) So we meet next: Friday 1. June about 17:00 o'clock Locations: http://map.search.ch/basel/dornacherstr.192?b=high http://tinyurl.com/cu35u42 So let us celebrate the last labour day of the week, giving thanks to your personal deity. tgif = thanks god it's Friday Saludos Miguel ===== German ===== Hallo zusammen, am letzten swinog Meeting haben einige Kollegen aus Basel empfunden, es wäre an der Zeit sich mal auch wieder gemütlich in der Nähe von Basel zu treffen. Mathias Seiler und ich haben da gleich an "unser Bier" gedacht und haben da jetzt nächsten: Freitag 1. Juni ab 17:00 Einen Tisch für uns Reserviert. Last eure Arbeit in der Firma und bedankt euch bei der euch nächstliegenden höheren Gottheit für den Freitag. tgif = thanks god it's friday Saludos Miguel

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tgif: Freitag 1. Juni Unser Bier in Basel
by Miguel Elias 29 May '12

29 May '12

Hallo zusammen, am letzten swinog Meeting haben einige Kollegen aus Basel empfunden, es wäre an der Zeit sich mal auch wieder gemütlich in der Nähe von Basel zu treffen. Mathias Seiler und ich haben da gleich an "unser Bier" gedacht und haben da jetzt nächsten: Freitag 1. Juni ab 17:00 Einen Tisch für uns Reserviert. Last eure Arbeit in der Firma und bedankt euch bei der euch nächstliegenden höheren Gottheit für den Freitag. tgif = thanks god it's friday Saludos Miguel

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Routing problems @ cablecom?
by Benoît Panizzon 26 May '12

26 May '12

Hello I'm not able to reach any address @as6772 from cablecom. Anyone else experiencing such Problems? -böni

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Re: [swinog] Tele2 not reachable?
by Stefan Rothenbuehler 25 May '12

25 May '12

Hello Thank you for clarification in fact we have around 500 mails waiting to be delivered to @tele2.ch Addresses. Maybe sunrise should either accept those mails and create proper DSNs or make a public statement that tele2.ch addresses are not longer supported... Kind regards, Stefan On 05/23/2012 04:43 PM, Tele2 DNS Registry wrote: > Dear Mr van Pelt and Mr Rothenbuehler, > > Tele2 has sold its Swiss subsidiary Econophone to Sunrise in 2008 and > are not providing any services in the country anymore. We are just > protecting our trademark by holding the domain tele2.ch. We do not have > any recipients for mail in Switzerland, thus we do not have any use for > mx record in the zone file. > > > Med Vänlig Hälsning/Best Regards > Eva > DNS Registry > Tele2 Sverige AB > > -------------- Swedish IP Network ------------------------ > Tele2 Sverige AB Tel: +46 8 5626 4008 > Box 62 Fax: +46 8 5626 4210 > 164 94 Kista Email: hostmaster(a)tele2.com > Sweden http://www.tele2.se/ > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Pim van Pelt skrev 2012-05-23 16:24: >> Hoi, >> >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Stefan Rothenbuehler >> <stefan_rothenbuehler(a)bluewin.ch> wrote: >>> Hello List >>> >>> We're having trouble delivering mail to tele2.ch. Their MX record seem to be >>> gone. >>> Did they stop working? >> It is broken, I can confirm from my site: >> >> A, AAAA, and MX for tele2.ch are all NXDOMAIN. Strangely the serial of >> tele2.ch is 2012010201. Adding registry(a)swip.net as per their RP >> record. >> >> >> groet, >> Pim

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Pro / Contra Smarthosting
by Benoit Panizzon 24 May '12

24 May '12

Heya Another one on about the same topic. Business Customer with own Mailserver. They ofter want to know, which of our mailservers they can use as smarthost. We usualy tell them, that they operate an own fully connected mailserver which does not need any smarthost to deliver email to the world. Some do not agree. The reasons the tell us are: - It Tech XY has told them that sending via a smarthost is much more reliable. - Their previous ISP asked them to use it's smarthost. - Our Server has better 'reputation' than theirs and thus emails are less likely to be considered spam by some spamfilters. - Some seem to see DNS issues which I never could understand (they have correct PTR and MX settings for their mailservers). The problems I see with smarthosting are: - If an email to a recipient does not make it there, we get the blame even on trivias like 'user unknown'. - We have to punch holes in the anti-spam thorttling measures to allow them to send more emails / time than the usual private customer does. - They can generate huge load peaks if they operate newsletters and similar. - They often do relay bounce emails for strange reasons, or cause mail loops which we do not want to be routed via our infrastructure. - The risk that our infrastructure get's blacklisted because of trojan activities on a customers infrastructure increases. So how do other ISP handle such requests? Do customer with an own fully connected mailserver have any reason to use their ISP's email infrastructure as smarthost? Mit freundlichen Grüssen Benoit Panizzon -- I m p r o W a r e A G - ______________________________________________________ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 07 CH-4133 Pratteln Fax +41 61 826 93 02 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch ______________________________________________________

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Metanet Root Server
by Adrian Kägi 24 May '12

24 May '12

Hi Is there someone from metanet? Please contact me offlist. Cheers Adrian

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Tele2 not reachable?
by Stefan Rothenbuehler 23 May '12

23 May '12

Hello List We're having trouble delivering mail to tele2.ch. Their MX record seem to be gone. Did they stop working? Regards, Stefan

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Free Racks
by Alexis Caceda 17 May '12

17 May '12

Good morning Swinogers We have 7x white (http://caceda.net/pics/2012-05-03_15-36-31_89.jpg) & 1x black Racks (http://caceda.net/pics/2012-05-03_15-33-49_282.jpg) to give away for free! They need to be picked up @ Netstream in Dübendorf. Please contact me offline if you are interested. Best regards, Alex

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looking for Dell hardware
by Reto Kasser 17 May '12

17 May '12

Hi All, Looking for the following dell hardware: 1x PowerConnect M8024 Switch 2x Intel(r) Ethernet X520 10 Gigabit Dual Port -x/k Mezzanine Card Please contact me offlist. Best Regards, Reto

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VoIP slideshow from last meeting
by Stanislav Sinyagin 14 May '12

14 May '12

hi some people asked a copy of my slideshow, but it's not yet available on swinog.ch site. Here you can download one if needed. http://wp.me/pnknY-7i cheers, stan

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Netdot
by Tobias Brunner 10 May '12

10 May '12

Hi SwiNOG List Is anyone using Netdot and has experience with it? https://osl.uoregon.edu/redmine/projects/netdot I'm looking for a tool to automatically document our network topology, including CDP information, spanning-tree, vlans, mac addresses, IPv4 and IPv6 and so on. And Netdot looks very promising! Cu tomorrow! Cheers, Tobias -- Nine Internet Solutions AG, Albisriederstr. 243a, CH-8047 Zuerich Support +41 44 637 40 40 | Tel +41 44 637 40 00 | Direct +41 44 637 40 13 Skype nine.ch_support

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ISOC Switzerland Chapter
by Roque Gagliano 10 May '12

10 May '12

Hi SWINOG, As I mentioned in the mic today, yesterday the ISCO Switzerland Chapter was approved. The chapter website is: http://www.isoc.ch If you want to become a member, you need to fill the form at the global ISOC page here: http://www.internetsociety.org/get-involved/join-community/individuals Cheers! Roque -- At least I did something Don Draper - Mad Men

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while Tobi speaks...
by Stanislav Sinyagin 10 May '12

10 May '12

here's a complimetnary slideshow to what Tobi is presenting now: http://www.denog.de/meetings/denog3/pdf/09-Sinyagin-Torrus_Gerty_Mooxu.pdf

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Dark fiber in Neuchatel
by Marcel Prisi 08 May '12

08 May '12

Hi ! We are looking for some dark fiber links from Neuchatel <> Lausanne, does someone have something to propose ? Thanks !

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