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RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem
by Kuster, Christian 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

What is the debugging output (or error message) if you try to establish a call? That should bring Layer 2 up again (but it isn't as you say) Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Beat Rubischon Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 15:16 To: SWINOG Mailing List Subject: Re: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem Hello! Am 03.03.05 schrieb Erich Hohermuth: > interface BRI0 > no ip address > encapsulation ppp > no ip route-cache > no ip mroute-cache > load-interval 30 > dialer pool-member 6 > isdn switch-type basic-net3 > isdn tei-negotiation first-call > no cdp enable > ppp multilink My options: interface BRI0 description ISDN interface no ip address encapsulation ppp dialer pool-member 2 isdn switch-type basic-net3 isdn answer1 0556145044 isdn calling-number 0556145044 no cdp enable I added "isdn tei-negotiation first-call", channel bundling is no desired option: rt-1#conf t rt-1(config)#int bri0 rt-1(config-if)#isdn tei-negotiation first-call rt-1(config-if)#no ip route-cache rt-1(config-if)#no ip mroute-cache rt-1(config-if)#end Mar 3 15:11:39.332: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console rt-1#clear interface bri 0 Mar 3 15:12:05.896: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 75 changed to up (now Layer 2 is up): rt-1#show isdn status Mar 3 15:14:19.404: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 77 changep Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3 ISDN BRI0 interface dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3 Layer 1 Status: ACTIVE Layer 2 Status: TEI = 77, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED Layer 3 Status: 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s) Active dsl 0 CCBs = 0 The Free Channel Mask: 0x80000003 Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0 (15 seconds later): Mar 3 15:12:20.864: %ISDN-6-LAYER2DOWN: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 75 changed to down (and Layer 2 is down): rt-1#show isdn status Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3 ISDN BRI0 interface dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3 Layer 1 Status: ACTIVE Layer 2 Status: TEI = 75, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = TEI_ASSIGNED Layer 3 Status: 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s) Active dsl 0 CCBs = 0 The Free Channel Mask: 0x80000003 Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0 Dialing is only possible while Layer 2 Status is MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED... Beat -- Beat Rubischon \|/ See http://www.rubis.ch/~beat/ for <beat(a)rubis.ch> ( 0^0 ) snail- & e-mail, phone, fax & PGP ---------------oOO--(_)--OOo---------------------------------- # wigwam.lugs.ch, Linux 2.4.29-rc2, up 49 days, 1:48, load: 0.21 _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem
by Kuster, Christian 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

Erichs config looks good! That's why I said > what BRI interface config you use... I don't like shooting in the dark... Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Erich Hohermuth Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 15:02 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem Hello I use the following config with the 836er Cisco Routers. > I think it's more an generic problem then a product specific > one... but: interface BRI0 no ip address encapsulation ppp no ip route-cache no ip mroute-cache load-interval 30 dialer pool-member 6 isdn switch-type basic-net3 isdn tei-negotiation first-call no cdp enable ppp multilink Regards Erich -- * Erich Hohermuth IP Engineer - SolNet (AS 9044) PGPKEY-46A08FCB * * phone: +41 32 686 82 22 / sip:9044*463@inoc-dba.pch.net * _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem
by Kuster, Christian 03 Mar '05

03 Mar '05

What ISDN switch type is configured? -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Beat Rubischon Sent: Donnerstag, 3. März 2005 14:48 To: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch' Subject: RE: [swinog] ISDN Layer 2 Problem Hello! Am 03.03.05 schrieb Kuster, Christian: > It probably will help very much if you say : > what router, > what IOS version > what BRI interface config you use... I think it's more an generic problem then a product specific one... but: ---8<--- rt-1#show version Cisco IOS Software, C836 Software (C836-K9O3S8Y6-M), Version 12.3(8)YA1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Synched to technology version 12.3(9.6)T Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport Copyright (c) 1986-2005 by Cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 21-Jan-05 17:22 by ealyon ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.2(11r)YV1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) ROM: Cisco IOS Software, C836 Software (C836-K9O3S8Y6-M), Version 12.3(8)YA1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) rt-1 uptime is 2 days, 15 hours, 56 minutes System returned to ROM by reload at 01:42:52 CET Fri Mar 1 2002 System restarted at 22:49:01 CET Mon Feb 28 2005 System image file is "flash:c836-k9o3s8y6-mz.123-8.YA1.bin" [cryptographic blabla] Cisco C836 (MPC857T) processor (revision 0x201) with 46695K/2457K bytes of memory. Processor board ID FOC09042B0E (623996758), with hardware revision 0000 CPU rev number 7 2 Ethernet interfaces 4 FastEthernet interfaces 1 ISDN Basic Rate interface 1 ATM interface 128K bytes of NVRAM. 12288K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) 2048K bytes of processor board Web flash (Read/Write) Configuration register is 0x2102 ---8<--- Beat -- Beat Rubischon \|/ See http://www.rubis.ch/~beat/ for <beat(a)rubis.ch> ( 0^0 ) snail- & e-mail, phone, fax & PGP ---------------oOO--(_)--OOo---------------------------------- # wigwam.lugs.ch, Linux 2.4.29-rc2, up 49 days, 1:23, load: 0.22 _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] New member ;)
by Kuster, Christian 02 Mar '05

02 Mar '05

Hi Salome Nicole probably is very happy not to be the only woman anymore :-) You are very welcome... Cheers Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Salome Baumann Sent: Dienstag, 1. März 2005 14:17 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] New member ;) Hi all I'm new to this list so I'd like to send you a short hello. My name is Salome and I'm a 25 years old lady :) I worked for one year in a network team at HP (configuring Cisco devices and stuff). At the moment I work as a hardware supporter but I don't like it at all, so I decided to quit and now I'm looking for a job in the Cisco environment again. I subscribed to this list because I hope to meet other networking people and to improve my technical knowledge :) Hmmm - about the beer event... I'm always interested in beer ;) is it ok when I join? Kind regards, Salome -- ...you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free! _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Re: Antw: Re: [swinog] New member ;) (Abwesenheit - Out of Office)
by Roelof Speekenbrink 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

Hi Nik and all, I'll suggest it to her, and in the meantime I'll take a course in configuring the weird & wonderful world of Novell GroupWise.... No Idea why the mail was answered :-( It won't disturb you again.. cheers, Roelof *********************************************************** * Roelof Speekenbrink * Service Engineering & Implementation * * tel: +41 43 343 65 64 * fax: +41 43 343 63 22 * roelof.speekenbrink(a)cablecom.ch * * Cablecom GmbH * Förrlibuckstrasse 181 * Postfach * CH-8005 Zürich *********************************************************** >>> lists.nik(a)nts.ch 03/01/05 5:15 PM >>> From: "Tobias Goeller" <tobias(a)brabbel.ch> > Anyone... could you forward all replies to Ms. Sooder??? :-) maybe Ms. Sooder can also join swinog maillist? - 2 new female members the same day - surely overkill for a bunch of us ;-) greetz nik _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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Antw: Re: [swinog] New member ;) (Abwesenheit - Out of Office)
by Roelof Speekenbrink 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

I regret not to be able to answer your mail until the 21st March. In urgent cases please contact Ms. C. Sooder (claudia.sooder(a)cablecom.ch). Thank you, and enjoy your day.

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RE: [swinog] New member ;)
by Kuster, Christian 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

I tried > apt-get install bible-kjv-text and got : Access blocked by ids.firewall.org This document contains the virus 666missionary-force9. This virus is a variant of the original virus missionary-1. ;-)

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Job: System-Administrator at ETH Zuerich
by Fabian Wenk 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

- Do you know the inside of Windows, but are flexible enough to work in an environment mostly based on Linux, FreeBSD and MacOS X? - Do you like to use the right tool whether it's free or proprietary software? - Are you excited by the task to maintain servers and workstations directly on the internet without a firewall, yet keep them secure? - Are you stimulated by unusual and varied computing requirements in a research environment? Do you like to counsel and support creative and demanding co-workers? - Do you like to solve tricky tasks when pressed for time? Do you like develop solutions that you are free to publish under your own name? Then you fit into our team. We maintain a server infrastructure almost exclusively with free software. There we also provide services for Windows, Linux/Unix and MacOS. We work hard to find a solution to any kind of computer problem for our co-workers. As we are a small group you will work on all tasks. You will be confronted with daily new challanges. If you are interested in this job please send us your application. You will find the details on the web page: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/phys/dep/openpos

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RE: [swinog] New member ;)
by Martin Ebnöther 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> -----Original Message----- > >Well, I know it's in the bible (as my name is, too). But the > last thing > >I expect from techies is that they even have this book :-) > > I do have a bible, but it is called HitchHikers Guide To The > Galaxy* ;) That other book was only useful to make fun of the > very extremely annoying pushing people who wanted to push > some silly opinion they had onto one. Those people tend to > ignore the cooler (read: "evil") parts of the book they > always say to love so much ;) One can build a religion around any book I guess. The bloke called Ron Hubbard did it with his third-class Sci-Fi novels, the jews have the old testament, the christians the new testament... I guess one could also establish the Church of Networkology, based on some IP-Manual or routing table whatever. Though I'd rather go to the Heilige Mittagesser. Wanna know more? Ask me at a Beer Event. =:-) > * of which the movie premiere is around 09.06.2005 btw, > pre/post-movie-drinking-event? W00t! CU, Venty

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RE: [swinog] New member ;)
by Kuster, Christian 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

>Well, I know it's in the bible (as my name is, too). But the last thing >I expect from techies is that they even have this book :-) Right...I mean, who needs a manual??? :-)

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RE: [swinog] New member ;)
by Martin Ebnöther 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> -----Original Message----- > > Suddenly a woman appears and all get exited... tssk tssk... Hihi. > think if a woman would join irc.swinog.ch? The #swinog > channel would be > crowded! Well, I expect subscriptions for the next Beer Event to explode now... *check_website* Hmm, the usual suspects. Well, beer, food, women. All it lacks is WLAN access now. =:-) CU, Venty

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RE: [swinog] New member ;)
by Martin Ebnöther 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> -----Original Message----- > > That's not the reason why I mentioned my gender... > > Ever been in an IRC talking to someone pretending to be the > opposite gender? ;-) ... a brilliant example is in a current > movie called "Closer". You mean, like this: http://bolsterboy.100megsfree.com/cybersex.jpg CU, Venty

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RE: [swinog] Last mile debate postponed
by Volery, Francois 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

Hi all, It seems that there is still a chance that unbundling come to reality before the end of the decade: Kommission für Verkehr und Fernmeldewesen KVF: Die wichtigsten Geschäfte : .... die Revision des Fernmeldegesetzes (03.073)... Die Vorlage wird im ersten Quartal 05 von der ständerätlichen Kommission beraten werden..... http://www.parlament.ch/homepage/ko-legislativkommissionen/kom_9_22.htm Let's hope that this topic will be at the agenda of the next summer session! By the way, you all, as Swiss Network Operators, are you actively pushing for that unbundling? (e.g. lobbying in the Bundeshaus and KVF?) François Volery KEYMILE AG >-----Original Message----- >From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog- >bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:33 PM >To: swinog(a)swinog.ch >Subject: [swinog] Last mile debate postponed > >It seems that the Ständerat is not debating about the last mile this >spring session: > >http://www.parlament.ch/se-sessionsprogramm-sr-fs-2005.pdf > >that will likely mean that we wait at least until 2007 or 2008. > >F. >_______________________________________________ >swinog mailing list >swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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maybe a bit OT: WTO
by Fredy Kuenzler 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

Interesting reading from de.comm.internet.infrastruktur. The WTO should maybe include Swisscom's policy in their investigation. "USA: US-Carrier reichen Beschwerde beim Handelsbeauftragten gegen Deutschland ein" "Wie im Vorjahr haben mehrere US-Verbände, Carrier und Einzelpersonen im Verfahren "Section 1377 Review" des US-Handelsbeauftragen (USTR) Beschwerde eingereicht. In diesem Verfahren geht es im Wesentlichen um potenzielle Vertragsverletzungen nach dem Welthandelsabkommen WTO/GATS im TK-Bereich." http://rsw.beck.de/rsw/shop/default.asp?docid=138083&docClass=NEWS&from=mmr… F.

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Last mile debate postponed
by Fredy Kuenzler 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

It seems that the Ständerat is not debating about the last mile this spring session: http://www.parlament.ch/se-sessionsprogramm-sr-fs-2005.pdf that will likely mean that we wait at least until 2007 or 2008. F.

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RE: [swinog] New member ;)
by Michel Renfer 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> I just couldn't miss this chance :) Don't miss the next swinog meeting! We will start with the registration soon! :-) cheers, michel

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RE: [swinog] New member ;)
by Martin Ebnöther 01 Mar '05

01 Mar '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > Hmmm - about the beer event... I'm always interested in beer > ;) is it ok > when I join? Of course! Just please register yourself on the website at http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ CU, Venty

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Webalizer ASN: new release 1.2b
by Fredy Kuenzler 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Dear all, We recently released a new Webalizer ASN (Webalizer Extension with AS Numbers). There is also a debian precompiled version. Main improvement: slow whois lookups are replaced with Pascal Gloor's Piranha / Alligator BGP database format. Have fun: http://www.init7.net/webalizer_asn/ Please report errors, problems and suggestions to Marco Steinacher (steinacher at init7 dot net). Regards, Fredy

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RE: [swinog] Last mile debate postponed
by "Pedrazzini, André" 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

@xaver: are you working for sc? andré -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Xaver Aerni Sent: Montag, 28. Februar 2005 16:07 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: AW: [swinog] Last mile debate postponed I ask myself, what differentiated is... If the last mile is released the chaos with the competence will be only larger. Xaver -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]Im Auftrag von Fredy Kuenzler Gesendet: Montag, 28. Februar 2005 15:33 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: [swinog] Last mile debate postponed It seems that the Ständerat is not debating about the last mile this spring session: http://www.parlament.ch/se-sessionsprogramm-sr-fs-2005.pdf that will likely mean that we wait at least until 2007 or 2008. F. _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] Beer Event #23
by Martin Ebnöther 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

> >Date: 14th of February > > From your message headers: > 8<----------------------- > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:43:35 +0100 > Message-ID: <562A79D57141B0468AA54AF310B4561B02EDB6BB(a)gps03.gps.local> > ----------------------->8 > > So I assume that will be 14th February 2006 ? :) Caramba! You're right. =:-) It's the 14th of March 2005 of course as stated on the website. Though I won't send another announcement now. CU, Venty

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Beer Event #23
by Martin Ebnöther 28 Feb '05

28 Feb '05

Hello all Steven will be on holidays when the next Beer Event will take place, so it is my great honour to organize BE 23. =:-) Next event: Date: 14th of February Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Les Halles" (Pfingstweidstrasse 6, just beside TIX Those who know the old techie party place knows Les Halles). I have a bad foto below. Or search it on their website :) Registration deadline: 11.03.2005 09:00:00 Link for registration http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ CU, Venty -- GPS Technik AG Zürcherstr. 139 8952 Schlieren Tel. +41 (0)44 732 99 55

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OT: *nix Sysadmin wanted
by Daniel Kamm 25 Feb '05

25 Feb '05

Anyone intressted in a *nix Sysadmin job? Please see below (only in german, sorry). - Dan ----- Wir (Hostpoint GmbH, http://www.hostpoint.ch) suchen für den Standort Rapperswil per sofort oder nach Vereinbarung eine junge, aufgestellte Persönlichkeit (Sie oder Er) als Systemadministrator Unix/Linux/BSD ================================== Ihre Aufgabe ------------ * 2nd- und 3rd Level Support in Deutsch, Englisch (und ggf. Französisch) (mündlich und schriftlich) *Administration und Überwachung sämtlicher Server und Services Aushilfe im Entwicklungsteam *Bereitschaft zu Pikettdienst Ihr Profil ---------- *Alter: 20 bis 30 *Abgeschlossenes Studium im Bereich der Informatik oder äquivalente Kenntnisse *Sehr gute Kenntnisse im Bereich Internet und UNIX/Linux/BSD *Fundierte Kenntnisse der von uns eingesetzten Software (Apache, Exim, MySQL, etc.) erwünscht *Kenntnisse der im Internet und Hosting-relevanten Protokollen (TCP/IP, HTTP, SMTP, FTP, etc.) *Kenntnisse in Skriptsprachen wie Perl, PHP sowie Shell-Skripten Als kommunikative Persönlichkeit sind Sie ein Teamplayer mit gesundem Durchsetzungsvermögen und Eigeninitiative. Sie begigestern sich für das Lösen von Problemem in unbekanten Gebieten, suchen Herausforderungen und erarbeiten sich selbstständig und im Team neue Gebiete. Sie sind flexibel und belastbar und verfügen über gute Deutsch- und Englischkenntnisse mündlich und schriftlich. Wir bieten ---------- * Eine sehr abwechslungsreiche und vielseitige Tätigkeit in einem jungen, gut eingespielten Team *Junge und dynamische Firma *Attraktive Anstellungsbedingungen *Weiterbildungs- und Entwicklungsmöglichkeiten Haben wir Ihr Interesse geweckt? Wir freuen uns auf Ihre elektronische Bewerbung mit Photo. Für weitere Fragen steht Ihnen Herr Sandro Bertschinger (personal(a)hostpoint.ch) gerne zur Verfügung. -- Daniel Kamm System Administrator Hostpoint GmbH | The Data Residence | Zürcherstrasse 2 | 8640 Rapperswil | Schweiz Tel +41 55 220 0404 | Fax +41 55 220 0409 | www.hostpoint.ch

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RE: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'a all aboutswisscom dumping)
by Michel Renfer 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Now i know, why we pay so much for the ADSL backhaul connectivity..... :-/ > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Nik Hug > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:15 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] indymedia becoming our new netzwoche? (it'a > all aboutswisscom dumping) > > Hello > > http://www.indymedia.ch/de/2005/02/30598.shtml > > Not bad - maybe we should check indymedia always between > slashdot and heise? > > gaming indy in the old days was fun - but reading indy(media) > is also an > adventure ;-) > > Greetings > > Nik > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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Database redesign
by Matthias Cramer 18 Feb '05

18 Feb '05

Dear Colegues I've redesigned the database of SwissIX in the last few days. What's new: - New Participant list and details - Fully multisite capable (a participant can manage multiple sites with one login) - New peering matrix - The participant can edit his own details and change his password You can request your new password via the lost password link on the SwissIX website at the "member login" menu. Sadly we could not migrate your peering old details used for the peering matrix. Please update this informnation. The old peering matrix which still has the old information ist accessible at http://www.swissix.ch/peermatrix-old.php If your company has not yet submitted a "trusted email" address, you will not be able to retrive your password. Please send a mail to noc(a)swissix.ch with your "trusted email" address so we can add it to the database. Best regards Matthias Cramer -- _;\_ Matthias Cramer / mc322-ripe System & Network Manager /_. \ Dolphins Network Systems AG Phone +41-44-847'45'45 |/ -\ .) Hardturmstrasse 135 Fax +41-44-847'45'49 -'^`- \; CH-8005 Zürich http://www.dolphins.ch/ GnuPG 1024D/2D208250 = DBC6 65B6 7083 1029 781E 3959 B62F DF1C 2D20 8250

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RE: [swinog] Request: Searching a ISP (Partner) that has some Ba ndwithleft (w ww.swissdeejays.com)
by Ladu, Daniele 17 Feb '05

17 Feb '05

Dear Daniel Live 365.com or Radio42.com or radiostreamer.de or many others are too expensive to us, since our Service is free for everybody. If we gain in 1 - 2 Years some money (i dont know how), we think about some reseller of streaming bandwith. Just today, we are working hard to go around every weekend in Clubs and make registrations of the event. We are also working hard, to push our Label (Swissdeejays.com) on the Scene. We offer to all ISPs, the sound, that you can't find anywhere here. Don't forget, that UMTS is comming, and Streaming can be a good service to generate some traffic on the net and bill the customer. But this is a decision of the ISP. We still will offer the sound for free, to all interessed ISPs. And trust me, in 1 - 2 years our project will be known on the scene here in Zurich :-) Greetings Daniele -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Daniel Lorch Sent: Mittwoch, 16. Februar 2005 18:29 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Request: Searching a ISP (Partner) that has some Bandwithleft (w ww.swissdeejays.com) Hi > What we need: > > We need some bandwith for the relay of our uplink (128 kbit and 64 kbit > Shoutcast) Have you tried http://www.live365.com/broadcast/index.live ? They're not free, tho. Daniel _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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