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AW: AW: [swinog] future of dsl
by Glogger Steven 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

hi olivier > Idea: Let's say I have a "standard" (600/100) flatrate adsl > account from ISP A at home, and the Sunrise 150 flex > somewhere else (holiday house, chalet, grandparents, etc.). > Will it still work if I just configure the sunrise adsl line > with the login/pw information of ISP A ? (assuming I turn > off the router at home). i suppose swisscom will change that in the near future. so, don't do such a thing ,-) > I guess it would work (but of course still at 150/50), but > what about the 20MB limitation? Who is doing the accounting work: > Swisscom or Sunrise, or both? swisscom does some per-ISP accounting - because they deliver the whole traffic to $ISP. and sunrise has also to do per-user accounting, to send the bill... -steven

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RE: [swinog] future of dsl
by Kuster, Christian 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Another argument not to use windoze... Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of mark walliser Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2005 09:23 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] future of dsl ...so, what will be the price of all these nice "automatic updates": - the next servicepack - the security patches - the update of the virusscanner - the update of the anti-spyware . . . please don't arguement: turn it off... because "automatic" is recommended - and the targetpeople you named, they definitely choose the recommended value... limit @ 20MB is way to low... ...i for one would never choose "non-flatrate", but that's a different story... just my 0.02$ cheers, mark walliser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manuel Wenger" <manuel.wenger(a)ticinocom.com> To: <swinog(a)swinog.ch> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: R: [swinog] future of dsl Hello, > That Sunrise offer is just a "Bauernfänger": 20 MB are exhausted > in a few days by requesting the "Tagi"'s (or Blick ..) homepage > and receiving some Emails - including "God morning" stuff and SPAM. > In fact, with this offer they may still reach the 40 CHF ;-) What you say is true. But that's not what this new ADSL product's target customers do with Internet. I think more of people like "my mother" (tm) who turn on the 'puter once a week to receive *one* email from her friend and then once a month to do their telebanking stuff. People like this actually exist, and that's a good product for them. They will never reach the 49.-/month that a 600/100 costs. That's why we are also offering this product :-) -Manuel _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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R: [swinog] future of dsl
by Manuel Wenger 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

I don't think it's stupid. With a 56k modem you don't have any MB included at all, and you pay for traffic. Yes, you also pay when you install Windows Updates, McAfee updates or whatever. But if I were a "non-techie", I'd still prefer ADSL 150/50 instead of a 56k modem - because it's faster! *duh* At the end, you pay almost the same per hour like with a 56k modem (maybe something less) and you're faster. Again, this product wasn't thought for technical people, but for dial-up users who would like to get rid of the old, slow, noisy modem (yes, you can turn off the speaker, I know :-)) and maybe allow the husband to place a phone call while the wife plays Swiss Lotto, without needing ISDN. Is this so difficult? /methings ADSL Light was a great idea by Swisscom. Why does everything need to do Swisscom-bashing as a principle? Regards Manuel -----Messaggio originale----- Da: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Per conto di Alain Stucki Inviato: venerdì, 22. luglio 2005 10:02 A: swinog(a)swinog.ch Oggetto: AW: [swinog] future of dsl That's exact my position. 20MB/month.. This is really stupid.. 20MB exhausted in a few days by reading your daily spam, some other mails with attached files and so on.. I think no one need ADSL with 20MB traffic limit, the good, old 56k modem is a much better solution for these "Gelegenheits-surfer" No basic free, no traffic limit.. You pay exactly what you get.. Greetz Alain

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AW: [swinog] future of dsl
by Alain Stucki 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

That's exact my position. 20MB/month.. This is really stupid.. 20MB exhausted in a few days by reading your daily spam, some other mails with attached files and so on.. I think no one need ADSL with 20MB traffic limit, the good, old 56k modem is a much better solution for these "Gelegenheits-surfer" No basic free, no traffic limit.. You pay exactly what you get.. Greetz Alain -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von mark walliser Gesendet: Freitag, 22. Juli 2005 09:55 An: swinog(a)swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] future of dsl please stick to the real world... ...and think again about the "targetpeople"... in addidtion on the other hand: i really cannot think of someone using a "penguin-os" (or whatever) and downloading less than 20MB/month... why the hell can one always make a linux** vs. windows-topic out of everything?! :-/ greetz, mark ** > or freebsd, beos, osx, solaris or anything else... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kuster, Christian" <Christian.Kuster(a)sunrise.net> To: <swinog(a)swinog.ch> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [swinog] future of dsl Another argument not to use windoze... Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of mark walliser Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2005 09:23 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] future of dsl ...so, what will be the price of all these nice "automatic updates": - the next servicepack - the security patches - the update of the virusscanner - the update of the anti-spyware . . . please don't arguement: turn it off... because "automatic" is recommended - and the targetpeople you named, they definitely choose the recommended value... limit @ 20MB is way to low... ...i for one would never choose "non-flatrate", but that's a different story... just my 0.02$ cheers, mark walliser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manuel Wenger" <manuel.wenger(a)ticinocom.com> To: <swinog(a)swinog.ch> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: R: [swinog] future of dsl Hello, > That Sunrise offer is just a "Bauernfänger": 20 MB are exhausted > in a few days by requesting the "Tagi"'s (or Blick ..) homepage > and receiving some Emails - including "God morning" stuff and SPAM. > In fact, with this offer they may still reach the 40 CHF ;-) What you say is true. But that's not what this new ADSL product's target customers do with Internet. I think more of people like "my mother" (tm) who turn on the 'puter once a week to receive *one* email from her friend and then once a month to do their telebanking stuff. People like this actually exist, and that's a good product for them. They will never reach the 49.-/month that a 600/100 costs. That's why we are also offering this product :-) -Manuel _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] future of dsl
by Kuster, Christian 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

For fun :-) -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of mark walliser Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2005 09:55 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] future of dsl please stick to the real world... ...and think again about the "targetpeople"... in addidtion on the other hand: i really cannot think of someone using a "penguin-os" (or whatever) and downloading less than 20MB/month... why the hell can one always make a linux** vs. windows-topic out of everything?! :-/ greetz, mark ** > or freebsd, beos, osx, solaris or anything else... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kuster, Christian" <Christian.Kuster(a)sunrise.net> To: <swinog(a)swinog.ch> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 9:37 AM Subject: RE: [swinog] future of dsl Another argument not to use windoze... Christian -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of mark walliser Sent: Freitag, 22. Juli 2005 09:23 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] future of dsl ...so, what will be the price of all these nice "automatic updates": - the next servicepack - the security patches - the update of the virusscanner - the update of the anti-spyware . . . please don't arguement: turn it off... because "automatic" is recommended - and the targetpeople you named, they definitely choose the recommended value... limit @ 20MB is way to low... ...i for one would never choose "non-flatrate", but that's a different story... just my 0.02$ cheers, mark walliser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Manuel Wenger" <manuel.wenger(a)ticinocom.com> To: <swinog(a)swinog.ch> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: R: [swinog] future of dsl Hello, > That Sunrise offer is just a "Bauernfänger": 20 MB are exhausted > in a few days by requesting the "Tagi"'s (or Blick ..) homepage > and receiving some Emails - including "God morning" stuff and SPAM. > In fact, with this offer they may still reach the 40 CHF ;-) What you say is true. But that's not what this new ADSL product's target customers do with Internet. I think more of people like "my mother" (tm) who turn on the 'puter once a week to receive *one* email from her friend and then once a month to do their telebanking stuff. People like this actually exist, and that's a good product for them. They will never reach the 49.-/month that a 600/100 costs. That's why we are also offering this product :-) -Manuel _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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R: [swinog] future of dsl
by Manuel Wenger 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Hello, > That Sunrise offer is just a "Bauernfänger": 20 MB are exhausted > in a few days by requesting the "Tagi"'s (or Blick ..) homepage > and receiving some Emails - including "God morning" stuff and SPAM. > In fact, with this offer they may still reach the 40 CHF ;-) What you say is true. But that's not what this new ADSL product's target customers do with Internet. I think more of people like "my mother" (tm) who turn on the 'puter once a week to receive *one* email from her friend and then once a month to do their telebanking stuff. People like this actually exist, and that's a good product for them. They will never reach the 49.-/month that a 600/100 costs. That's why we are also offering this product :-) -Manuel

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AW: [swinog] future of dls
by Walter Onda (Glattwerk) 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Hi >I doubt though that this will be a big success since flatrates >are very popular. Many customer won't pay 40 francs per month just for a bit surfing or for download e-mail. Users comming from Dial-In they would like this new offer. We also have such an offer and believe me, that's very popular! Walter

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future of dls
by Jean-Pierre Schwickerath 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

Hello everyone, I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for their routers to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are overbidding themselves with always increasing bandwidths. Does anyone have reliable information about what swiss broadband ISPs plan to offer in the next future? Regards, Jean-Pierre -- HILOTEC Engineering + Consulting GmbH Energietechnik und Datensysteme Tel: +41 34 402 74 00 - http://www.hilotec.com/

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AW: [swinog] future of dls
by Glogger Steven 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

hi jean-pierre > I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for > their routers to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are > overbidding themselves with always increasing bandwidths. lastmile = swisscom, so no overbidding with bandwidths in switzerland. > Does anyone have reliable information about what swiss > broadband ISPs plan to offer in the next future? don't talk about "swiss broadband ISPs". it's only swisscom, who's offering any service. the "swiss broadband ISPs" are only resellers of swisscom's service. as far as i know swisscom never talked about ADSL2+ but used words like SDSL and maybe VDSL... so, let us see what the future brings us... -steven > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von > Jean-Pierre Schwickerath > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2005 11:39 > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Betreff: [swinog] future of dls > > Hello everyone, > > I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for > their routers to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are > overbidding themselves with always increasing bandwidths. > > Does anyone have reliable information about what swiss > broadband ISPs plan to offer in the next future? > > > Regards, > Jean-Pierre > > > -- > HILOTEC Engineering + Consulting GmbH > Energietechnik und Datensysteme > Tel: +41 34 402 74 00 - http://www.hilotec.com/ > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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Looking for Cisco CCNP Instructor
by Sarpreet 19 Jul '05

19 Jul '05

Hi All, Knowledge Computers is looking for an instructor for a CCNP class in Yemen. All expenses will be paid for a 2 week boot camp in lovely Yemen. If there is anyone interested or know anyone off the top of there heads, please have them contact me asap. Regards, Sarpreet Basi Knowledge Computers Email: sar(a)knowledgecomputers.net Toll-free: 800.967.6609 x26 International: 250.748.0818 x26 Fax: 250.748.3388 Mobile: 250.709.0336 AOL IM: sarpreetb MSN: sarpreet(a)hotmail.com www.knowledgecomputers.net

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subscribed e-mail change
by Daniele Guazzoni 18 Jul '05

18 Jul '05

Could the list admin contact directly Tan at tan(a)nguyen.ch ? He would like to change his existing subscribed e-mail and therefore solve the "out-of-office" reply. Thanks -- best regards ----------------------------------------------------------------- Daniele Guazzoni Network & System Engineer Cisco Certified Network Professional Audatex Systems GmbH An ADP Company Zollstrasse 62 CH-8021 Zürich Phone: +41 44 278 87 54 Fax: +41 44 278 85 15 E-Mail: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch Web: http://www.audatex.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- "I still don't know what the window keys on my keyboard are for. Neither Linux, openBSD, freeBSD nor Solaris reacts on it..."

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Antonio Casu ist abwesend
by Antonio Casu 18 Jul '05

18 Jul '05

I will be out of the office starting 18.07.2005 and will not return until 22.07.2005. Ich bin vom 18. bis und mit dem 22. Juni 05 abwesend. Bitte Mails bei dringenden Problemen an support(a)ideso.ch senden. Danke für Ihr Verständnis. Herzlichen Dank. Mit freundlichen Grüssen Antonio Casu __________________________________ Systemtechnik Ideso AG - Collaborative Performance Technopark, 8005 Zürich e-phone +41 44 200 72 72 http://www.ideso.ch mailto:support@ideso.ch Lotus Notes kann jetzt dank e-phone auch telefonieren. e-phone wurde ausgezeichnet mit dem IBM Lotus Award 2005 "Best Messaging Solution".

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Searching an old Swisscom NT
by Stefan Rothenbühler 18 Jul '05

18 Jul '05

Hello List This may be offtopic. I tried my luck with different electronic stores but they all send back their NT-BAs to Swisscom. Maybe you know where I can get an old NT. I'm using it to connect an ISDN phone to an asterisk Server (Diva Server 4BRI). I need to feed the fone with power because the ISDN card can't do so. I heard that many Telcos and ISPs sit on their old NTs or throwing them away. So maybe one on this list could sell me one. Thanks for your help. Freundliche Grüsse Stefan Rothenbühler Systemadministration **************** tl.media group fon +41 41 741 1210 fax +41 41 741 1235 mail stefan.rothenbuehler(a)tlmedia.ch web http://www.tlmedia.ch

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RE: [swinog] ADSL & CHAP authentication
by Michel Renfer 17 Jul '05

17 Jul '05

ok, thanks for feedback! :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Beat Rubischon > Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 10:13 PM > To: SWINOG Mailing List > Subject: Re: [swinog] ADSL & CHAP authentication > > Hello! > > Am 17.07.05 schrieb Michel Renfer: > > > Since the adsl outage last friday we have reports (from customers > > and internally), that CHAP authentication is not working anymore. > > No problems here. CHAP only, ISP Dolphins, Location Obstalden, > GL, operated from Rapperswil. > > Beat > > -- > \|/ Beat Rubischon <beat(a)0x1b.ch> > ( 0^0 ) http://www.0x1b.ch/~beat/ > oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------------------------------- > # wigwam.lugs.ch, Linux 2.4.31-pre2, up 64 days, 5:17, load: 0.73 > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: [swinog] ADSL & CHAP authentication
by Michel Renfer 17 Jul '05

17 Jul '05

> Hm, that's unlikely, at least as a general problem. We're Nah, but we could verify that on two locations. It seems, that we have to spend some more time on this ;-) cheers, michel

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ADSL & CHAP authentication
by Michel Renfer 17 Jul '05

17 Jul '05

Hi All! Since the adsl outage last friday we have reports (from customers and internally), that CHAP authentication is not working anymore. Anyone got similar reports? cheers, michel

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RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Ladu, Daniele 16 Jul '05

16 Jul '05

We too.... customers are calling :-( Sincerly Daniele Ladu -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Thomas Schneider Sent: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:30 To: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? good morning can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? we have lost some customers in different areas. thanks tom _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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pipeline
by Glogger Steven 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

hmm... http://www.pipeline.ch asks now for a user/password. webserver broken? does someone has some news about pipeline? i haven't heard any news since the company was sold to mr. pennella. i'm just curious ,-) -steven

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AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Glogger Steven 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

fromt the press: ------------ © AP, 2005-07-15 10:25:00 Rund eine Million ADSL-Kunden für 30 Minuten ohne Internet Bern (AP) Der ADSL-Dienst der Swisscom ist am Freitagmorgen zwischen 09.10 Uhr und 09.40 Uhr ausgefallen. Betroffen waren rund eine Million Kunden der Swisscom sowie zahlreicher anderer Firmen, wie ein Swisscom-Sprecher eine Meldung von «Radio Zürisee» bestätigte. Ursache für die Internet-Störung sei ein Softwareproblem gewesen, das noch genauer untersucht werden müsse. ------------ well, did microsoft had the patch-day yesterday? *grin* -steven > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Glogger Steven > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:43 > An: 'swinog(a)swinog.ch' > Betreff: AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > but the users are coming back now. > we see a lot of users back online... > > -steven > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Jérôme > > Tissières > > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:42 > > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Betreff: RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > I confirm, > > > > ADSL national outage ; > > > > ---snip--- > > [To:] ISP > > > > [Trouble Ticket Number:] > > > > [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 > > > > [From:] BBCS Support Team > > > > Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL > > > > [Region:] NA > > > > [Affected Locations:] National > > > > [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 > > > > [End of fault:] [Date:] [Time:] > > > > [Area Code:] > > > > [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland > > > > [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 > > > > [Work progress:] > > > > [Approximately expected repair time:] > > > > ---snap--- > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de > > Thomas Schneider > > > Envoyé : vendredi, 15. juillet 2005 09:30 À : > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > Objet : [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > > > good morning > > > > > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > > > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > > > > > thanks > > > tom > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > >

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AW: [swinog] Swisscom blocks Skype over UMTS ?
by Glogger Steven 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

do they have something small-printed in their contracts that they *might* filter things out? otherwise i would call this an semi-illegal action... -steven > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Ihsan Dogan > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 10:48 > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Betreff: Re: [swinog] Swisscom blocks Skype over UMTS ? > > Hello, > > On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 10:30, Umberto Annino wrote: > > > I've just read in 20Minuten, that Swisscom apparently is blocking > > Skype traffic over their UMTS network. They only want UMTS > to be used for "data" > > traffic, not for voice (yeah, so what exactly IS a > UDP-packet then ????). > > Other UMTS providers are doing the same. There was an article > on heise.de this (or perhaps last week) about that. > I think it's time that GSM and UMTS providers are thinking > about their prices. Especially here in Switzerland. > > > Ihsan... > > -- > Sun Microsystems (Schweiz) AG > Global Customer Services > Javastrasse 2 / Hegnau > CH-8604 Volketswil > Phone +41 44 908 90 00 > Fax +41 44 908 99 14 > E-Mail ihsan.dogan(a)sun.com > Web http://www.sun.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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AW: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Glogger Steven 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

but the users are coming back now. we see a lot of users back online... -steven > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Jérôme > Tissières > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:42 > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Betreff: RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > I confirm, > > ADSL national outage ; > > ---snip--- > [To:] ISP > > [Trouble Ticket Number:] > > [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 > > [From:] BBCS Support Team > > Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL > > [Region:] NA > > [Affected Locations:] National > > [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 > > [End of fault:] [Date:] [Time:] > > [Area Code:] > > [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland > > [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 > > [Work progress:] > > [Approximately expected repair time:] > > ---snap--- > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de > Thomas Schneider > > Envoyé : vendredi, 15. juillet 2005 09:30 À : > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > Objet : [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > > > good morning > > > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > > > thanks > > tom > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >

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RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Jérôme Tissières 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

I confirm, ADSL national outage ; ---snip--- [To:] ISP [Trouble Ticket Number:] [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 [From:] BBCS Support Team Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL [Region:] NA [Affected Locations:] National [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 [End of fault:] [Date:] [Time:] [Area Code:] [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 [Work progress:] [Approximately expected repair time:] ---snap--- > -----Message d'origine----- > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Thomas Schneider > Envoyé : vendredi, 15. juillet 2005 09:30 > À : swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > Objet : [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > good morning > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > thanks > tom > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Marco.Sudan＠colt.net 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

FYI Swisscom ADSL Outage whole Switzerland since 09:00 http://tools.cybernet.ch/status/ ;-) Cheers marco -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Ladu, Daniele Sent: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:30 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? We too.... customers are calling :-( Sincerly Daniele Ladu -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch]On Behalf Of Thomas Schneider Sent: Freitag, 15. Juli 2005 09:30 To: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? good morning can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? we have lost some customers in different areas. thanks tom _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

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RE: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
by Marc Loosli 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

Yes: > [To:] ISP > > [Trouble Ticket Number:] > > [Outage ID - Message ID:] 3373 - 00 > > [From:] BBCS Support Team > > Network-Outage BBCS/ADSL > > [Region:] NA > > [Affected Locations:] National > > [Begin of fault:] [Date:] 15.07.2005 [Time:] 09:06 > > [End of fault:] [Date:] [Time:] > > [Area Code:] > > [Effect:] BBCS Access whole Switzerland > > [Number of ADSL services:] 970'000 > > [Work progress:] > > [Approximately expected repair time:] > > [Point of contact:] bbcs.support(a)swisscom.com > > For questions please do not hesitate to contact us > > > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Thomas Schneider > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 9:30 AM > To: swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] swisscom dsl down? > > good morning > > can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? > we have lost some customers in different areas. > > thanks > tom > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >

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swisscom dsl down?
by Thomas Schneider 15 Jul '05

15 Jul '05

good morning can you confirm that swisscom dsl is down? we have lost some customers in different areas. thanks tom

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