I will be out of the office starting 03.10.2007 and will not return until 05.10.2007.
I will respond to your message when I return.
New Tele2 e-mail keepalive function ?
-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Candid Aeby Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:22 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 03.10.2007 and will not return until 05.10.2007.
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What should i do?
My company is using Lotus Notes and my mail admin mentally challenged. So what is your proposal?
Best Regards
Candid Aeby Product Manager Internet & Fixnet Tele2 Switzerland Postfach 49 CH-8037 Zürich Switzerland Telephone +41 (0)44 524 24 80 Mobile +41 (0)77 208 10 88 Fax +41 (0)44 524 24 97 E-Mail candid.aeby@tele2.com
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04.10.2007 13:33
Please respond to swinog@swinog.ch
New Tele2 e-mail keepalive function ?
-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Candid Aeby Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:22 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 03.10.2007 and will not return until 05.10.2007.
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My company is using Lotus Notes and my mail admin mentally challenged.
--> lol, i like that ,-)
So what is your proposal?
there are several "solutions": a. quit the company b. fire / mob the mcma ("mentally challenged mail admin") c. install your own mailexchanger and forward all mails to that one d. slap the mcma until he changes the mail software e. get rid of mcma and apply for his job f. get a way to lower the budget for mailapplications ,-) --> install something cheaper /opensource ...
greetz ,-)
-steven
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 15:41 +0200, Steven.Glogger@swisscom.com wrote:
So what is your proposal?
there are several "solutions": a. quit the company b. fire / mob the mcma ("mentally challenged mail admin") c. install your own mailexchanger and forward all mails to that one d. slap the mcma until he changes the mail software e. get rid of mcma and apply for his job f. get a way to lower the budget for mailapplications ,-) --> install
g. use a private mail address, where you don't have to put stupid ooo messages. Additionally you don't have to change all mailing-list memberships when you get a new business card. ;)
Have funn! - Dan
That's the reason, why I started using my private mail address for mailing-lists. Others use special accounts on their private domain (such as swinog@mylittleinternetplace.com). No hassle with braindead mail servers and equally challenged mail admins. Furthermore it's easier, if Christian's assumption is right (same people, different job) ;-)
I really wonder, how much lobbying must be done to a company, until they use Lotus Notes. I know... Notes can do absolutely everything - but unfortunately, nobody needs all those functions. People just want mail and some calendering. And that's just the two things, Notes cannot handle right (at least not in the default config - and that's what people use, because they don't spend money on a mailsystem in order to customize it to be useable). But I'm getting off-topic and shutting up now.
Cheers, Viktor
Candid Aeby wrote:
What should i do?
My company is using Lotus Notes and my mail admin mentally challenged. So what is your proposal?
--- Daniel Kamm ylz@ylz.ch wrote:
g. use a private mail address, where you don't have to put stupid ooo messages. Additionally you don't have to change all mailing-list memberships when you get a new business card. ;)
Google mail is open for everyone now. You can even set it up for your own domain for free :)
I could sponsor an e-mail account but to be sincere, if you say yes it would be tragic: I'm a private and you work for an ISP...
Daniele
-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Candid Aeby Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:32 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.
What should i do?
My company is using Lotus Notes and my mail admin mentally challenged. So what is your proposal?
Best Regards
Candid Aeby Product Manager Internet & Fixnet Tele2 Switzerland Postfach 49 CH-8037 Zürich Switzerland Telephone +41 (0)44 524 24 80 Mobile +41 (0)77 208 10 88 Fax +41 (0)44 524 24 97 E-Mail candid.aeby@tele2.com
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04.10.2007 13:33
Please respond to swinog@swinog.ch
New Tele2 e-mail keepalive function ?
-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Candid Aeby Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:22 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 03.10.2007 and will not return until 05.10.2007.
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Am 04.10.2007 um 15:49 schrieb Viktor Steinmann:
I really wonder, how much lobbying must be done to a company, until they use Lotus Notes. I know... Notes can do absolutely everything
- but unfortunately, nobody needs all those functions. People just
want mail and some calendering. And that's just the two things, Notes cannot handle right (at least not in the default config - and that's what people use, because they don't spend money on a mailsystem in order to customize it to be useable). But I'm getting off-topic and shutting up now.
Actually, that is a little bit unfair towards Notes.
Because this is an area where it really beats the pants right of MSExchange. I remember quite well, that you have a checkbox under "Exceptions" for "Do not send out vacation messages to the internet", which is something that I'm still missing in Exchange. Furthermore you can specify subjects that it should not reply to, and since all our internal e-mail lists had the format [foo-ig] or [foobar-an], putting something along the line of "-an], -ig]" in that field, and you wouldn't even spam internal lists. That was really cool, and possible back even in versions like the craptasticly crashing-prone 5.0.2 that was foisted on us by lazy admins.
Cheers, -daniel
Not sticking to Notes nor M$ - but I really appreciate a professional answer to this (never ending) discussion. ... And once again: it's not allways "the system" ...
Cheers pap
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Daniel G. Kluge Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Oktober 2007 20:08 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.
Am 04.10.2007 um 15:49 schrieb Viktor Steinmann:
I really wonder, how much lobbying must be done to a company, until they use Lotus Notes. I know... Notes can do absolutely everything
- but unfortunately, nobody needs all those functions. People just
want mail and some calendering. And that's just the two things, Notes cannot handle right (at least not in the default config - and that's what people use, because they don't spend money on a mailsystem in order to customize it to be useable). But I'm getting off-topic and shutting up now.
Actually, that is a little bit unfair towards Notes.
Because this is an area where it really beats the pants right of MSExchange. I remember quite well, that you have a checkbox under "Exceptions" for "Do not send out vacation messages to the internet", which is something that I'm still missing in Exchange. Furthermore you can specify subjects that it should not reply to, and since all our internal e-mail lists had the format [foo-ig] or [foobar-an], putting something along the line of "-an], -ig]" in that field, and you wouldn't even spam internal lists. That was really cool, and possible back even in versions like the craptasticly crashing-prone 5.0.2 that was foisted on us by lazy admins.
Cheers, -daniel
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Also one should not forget high availability and fault tolerant configuration which is trivial to organize with Lotus Notes replication - you can have mail db on any number of servers. With MS Exchange the only alternative is clustering but it is a pain in the a..
Cheers
Andrei -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of PAP Sent: Wednesday, 10. October 2007 22:12 To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: AW: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.
Not sticking to Notes nor M$ - but I really appreciate a professional answer to this (never ending) discussion. ... And once again: it's not allways "the system" ...
Cheers pap
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Daniel G. Kluge Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Oktober 2007 20:08 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.
Am 04.10.2007 um 15:49 schrieb Viktor Steinmann:
I really wonder, how much lobbying must be done to a company, until they use Lotus Notes. I know... Notes can do absolutely everything
- but unfortunately, nobody needs all those functions. People just
want mail and some calendering. And that's just the two things, Notes cannot handle right (at least not in the default config - and that's what people use, because they don't spend money on a mailsystem in order to customize it to be useable). But I'm getting off-topic and shutting up now.
Actually, that is a little bit unfair towards Notes.
Because this is an area where it really beats the pants right of MSExchange. I remember quite well, that you have a checkbox under "Exceptions" for "Do not send out vacation messages to the internet", which is something that I'm still missing in Exchange. Furthermore you can specify subjects that it should not reply to, and since all our internal e-mail lists had the format [foo-ig] or [foobar-an], putting something along the line of "-an], -ig]" in that field, and you wouldn't even spam internal lists. That was really cool, and possible back even in versions like the craptasticly crashing-prone 5.0.2 that was foisted on us by lazy admins.
Cheers, -daniel
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Ey candit,
lokus notes is a reason to resign ...
Roger
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What should i do?
My company is using Lotus Notes and my mail admin mentally challenged. So what is your proposal?
Best Regards
Candid Aeby Product Manager Internet & Fixnet Tele2 Switzerland Postfach 49 CH-8037 Zürich Switzerland Telephone +41 (0)44 524 24 80 Mobile +41 (0)77 208 10 88 Fax +41 (0)44 524 24 97 E-Mail candid.aeby@tele2.com
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-----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Candid Aeby Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:22 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 03.10.2007 and will not return until 05.10.2007.
I will respond to your message when I return. _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
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