Hi Gert, Urs

IMO: A mobile internet connection does not necessarily have to have the same flavor. 98% of the 4/5G customers do not care about the stack on what they’re connected - If the connectivity is ok to 100% of the destinations they want to reach.

What I want to say: For a mobile operator , the situation is at least slightly different: They ramped up mass-market internet when public v4 pool resources were nearly already gone, and both device type and usage pattern differ quite a lot. This gives a quite different baseline. Private IPv4 with a capable NAT system behind (and the insane logging, for the dark side) did just well until sometime.

If someone has the need for a proper dual-stack publicly reachable connection type on a mobile bearer (possibly even with the RES price-tag), I have no clue on which door to knock 😊.

I dreamt last night (honestly it is not totally proof, this comment): The RES mobile mass-market will go into the direction of IPv6-only with NAT64. And I expect this not to take any 2 more years. Anything else does not make sense, with all the above I wrote.

But as mentioned: My opinion 😊

Kind Regards

Egon

From: Müller Urs (S-SER-CEN2) <urs.bf.mueller@sbb.ch>
Date: Wednesday, 11 December 2024 at 16:13
To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>, Luginbühl Egon, INI-NET-VNC-E2E <Egon.Luginbuehl@swisscom.com>
Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch <swinog@lists.swinog.ch>
Subject: AW: [swinog] Re: Residential FTTH IPv6

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Hi

Hum, do not tempt me…

I had a mail exchange with a Swisscom guy several years back (I think in 2018), where they told me they will test it “next” year 😉

Hope they do it next year 😉

Regards, Urs

Von: Gert Doering via swinog <swinog@lists.swinog.ch>
Datum: Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2024 um 10:55
An: Egon.Luginbuehl@swisscom.com <Egon.Luginbuehl@swisscom.com>
Cc: mko@redhat.com <mko@redhat.com>, swinog@lists.swinog.ch <swinog@lists.swinog.ch>
Betreff: [swinog] Re: Residential FTTH IPv6

Hi,

Applause to Swisscom for being early in IPv6 rollout and then cleaning it
all up for native IPv6 ;-)

Now, what about Swisscom mobile?  I do frequently hear "there is no IPv6
and nobody knows when this is going to change", which is sad :-( - any
more positive news there?

Gert Doering
        -- NetMaster
--
have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?

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