From tonnerre@bsdprojects.net Mon Oct 2 07:45:31 2006 From: Tonnerre LOMBARD To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] bluewin.ch down? Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:45:25 +0200 Message-ID: <20061002054525.GA2417@penrose.bsdprojects.net> In-Reply-To: <451D3562.3030009@routerlab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6474946154001132842==" --===============6474946154001132842== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salut, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:01:54PM +0200, Richard Klingler wrote: > get / > Error 501 Not Implemented >

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Powered by Zeus Technology Just for the record: the correct syntax is GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.blaufenster.ch Connection: close Not all web servers support HTTP/0.8 anymore. Tonnerre --===============6474946154001132842== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.sig" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC41IChOZXRC U0QpCgppUUlWQXdVQlJTQ25kZTFtTUdhbi9UbldBUUt2WUEvL1EzZ3EzeXdhcHlsaG5QdDRNSTlv T2hqMWJOdm9UUUZECmNHSXYzSWlmSmVlQ2IwU3ZFNlRmYUNNRk9vUUUrUUx6L0ZtMHBpNTM0LzdY VnBOakMzdktZMUxJSXFseHNLUHkKNE5ST0wwbXVHUjdHT3QxZnJHUHJPTFRtbjZXanp6b3BhTUE5 MVcweStQYTAveFVUQjNRWE9ndFk0TGJyNzkvaQpZTGxlVFhwWjVEM3pkc0p5eUpmbUpkV3Z3UEpO M0hzWEswQzFSYkhKN0JnQUo1Vzl5bkw0QkxoQVVma0hzMml2CkdSZnhOa1RTMVFkbGw2emF5aC9q bkJJajhzTE9KTzZ5bFArdmVFZ3JOSmtPeVN5Q3NiNFhqRXRjcENKNlhnY3cKRWtCUGNRU2R1elg5 ODR6L28xOGlSVnBWdVdvWkpmMlJVTlFQK1hORmcvT2EwQmtERDBIb1VETDg0ZC9LUkZkdwpoemF0 T1VDRTRmMkQ0ZENuWjE5bkFyRS9SdzFub0xkemJuV1pON0F3ZmYzWnlhZ3paZlBlUnV5N08yL0lH SDkvCnJyeGVmVVE2blozYnJaT20wV1BpSmx2eXJLbS9GTk1MWEVyRzJMUnhHRVZpSWo3RHRqaEMz bndRNXJJUW5PWmMKeU1jREgwbVFoQlU5SEN1L2NqMnBrbUVXWjJOT05oMmhxaG1QYThkMENqcjE2 K0E1QkxvRE5STjhtS0lCNE1Kcwp5d0VUL1ZIY1YySmI3RC9PRVFaUjdJOHBMWlVHbTZqOC8rWWtZ YmM1ZUFabTBKMEhLYnZ5NlBieTB2bnV0SHJrCmh0eWRnWEZIanBUQkl2NnVGZloyVjBaTFR1NzJ2 b2hJcUdtd3ByVlZpNHNPdUV0dTUreTV1VWRRQ2xZdy8ySVYKY3dzOTN4cUMrOEE9Cj1ZazJPCi0t LS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQo= --===============6474946154001132842==-- From schaefer@alphanet.ch Mon Oct 2 10:35:50 2006 From: schaefer@alphanet.ch To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] SUMMARY: Solutions for emergency connectivity Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:35:18 +0200 Message-ID: <20061002083517.GB6598@alphanet.ch> In-Reply-To: <20060928094035.GA7501@alphanet.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7764175416564988295==" --===============7764175416564988295== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, so apparently the leased line is now functionnal. It was scheduled to be ready a few weeks ago and was fixed eventually this week-end. I promised a summary -- it will not include any company names nor individual prices (on request from the individual companies). So basically, we first checked the availability of Swisscom E1s. The given delay was unfortunately too tight for that purpose. Then I investiguated more dynamic proposals from smaller companies (small is beautiful): - wiring army-style between two blocks - wireless connections in Bern-city - VPN over the Internet The delays given were really short, but it could have worked as an emergency solution. On friday at noon(*), I had a complete solution, involving two ISPs, the Internet and a VPN (probably with GNU/Linux boxes running OpenVPN, possibly in bridging mode or proxy-arp because I couldn't get hands on the current router passwords), total about 12'000 CHF -- just for one month, duh! :) The customer found this to be an acceptable plan B solution, but informed me today that fortunately for them the LL is now ok. Thank you for your help! I hope the experience and contacts gained will be of some use in the future on other projects. I have already proposed the customer to consider having a fail-over solution for its LL. (*) On friday evening, unfortunately one of the two ISPs stepped back of the solution, this might have rendered the whole concept difficult, but I then found a possible replacement for that end. --===============7764175416564988295==-- From daniel@lorch.cc Mon Oct 2 12:42:08 2006 From: Daniel Lorch To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] bluewin.ch down? Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:42:01 +0200 Message-ID: <4520ECF9.1070709@lorch.cc> In-Reply-To: <20061002054525.GA2417@penrose.bsdprojects.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4282757211890930324==" --===============4282757211890930324== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi > Just for the record: the correct syntax is > > GET / HTTP/1.1 > Host: www.blaufenster.ch > Connection: close Unless you want to do the "chunked" transfer-decoding by hand, this should better be HTTP/1.0. You can then also leave out the "Connection: close", because 1.0 didn't support keep-alive. So, for the record, the correct syntax is GET / HTTP/1.0 Host: www.blaufenster.ch And he just wanted to show that the server was available. > Not all web servers support HTTP/0.8 anymore. You mean 0.9. Apache and most other webservers degrade gracefully. The problem in the example above was the lowercase "get". Here's a proof that backwards compatibility always works: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/CompatibleProof :) Daniel --===============4282757211890930324==-- From michel.renfer@finecom.ch Fri Oct 6 21:31:24 2006 From: Michel Renfer To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] SwiNOG-13 Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 21:31:18 +0200 Message-ID: <7ABEE57B986BDA429B535673CBE0C62302053A17@xanthe.lan.intra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2219626267600115829==" --===============2219626267600115829== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks... SwiNOG-13 registration page is now ready. Please register yourself at http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/registration.asp The agenda will be shortly available... cheers, michel --===============2219626267600115829==-- From swinog@codeangels.com Sun Oct 8 14:27:25 2006 From: Kirill Ponazdyr To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Looking for a used NPE-225 Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 14:27:11 +0200 Message-ID: <3950.192.168.1.6.1160310431.squirrel@www.codeangels.com> In-Reply-To: <20061002083517.GB6598@alphanet.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5734756859261711899==" --===============5734756859261711899== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Folks, I am looking for Cisco NPE-225, please drop me a line if you happen to have one which you could part with. Thanks! Kirill -- Kirill Ponazdyr Technical Director Codeangels Solutions GmbH Tel: +41 (0)43 844 90 10 Fax: +41 (0)43 844 90 12 http://www.codeangels.ch http://www.codeangels.com --===============5734756859261711899==-- From nico-swinog@schottelius.org Tue Oct 10 10:03:32 2006 From: Nico -telmich- Schottelius To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: blaufenster... (was: Re: [swinog] bluewin.ch down?) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 10:03:19 +0200 Message-ID: <20061010080319.GC8469@schottelius.org> In-Reply-To: <4520ECF9.1070709@lorch.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2919864633433779789==" --===============2919864633433779789== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just for your information, the domain blaufenster.ch is still available ;-) Don't know whether bluewin will be happy if an ISP buys it nor whether the buyer will be happy with it. Still wondering that a big, nine letter company, does not use it for error messages in their operating system. Nico -- ``...if there's one thing about Linux users, they're do-ers, not whiners.'' (A quotation of Andy Patrizio I completely agree with) --===============2919864633433779789== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC41IChHTlUv TGludXgpCgppRDhEQlFGRksxUEd1TDc1S3BpRkdJd1JBcHQ3QUp3Sno2b3J1NzhOeVo0Zll5S0k0 eDFyZ2w1dHJBQ2ZUSzJRCkd4QmgvTWcwMEU4N0dFWnllM0l4TWIwPQo9d1hUcwotLS0tLUVORCBQ R1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0K --===============2919864633433779789==-- From s.glogger@cybernet.ch Wed Oct 11 09:24:51 2006 From: Glogger Steven To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE42 - Beer Event 42 - 16th of October 06 @Don Weber / Zurich Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:24:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4CDD1F47F29D954AB8E17E4D1AE47C3102C77D2F@venus.cyberzh.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7375778415922091306==" --===============7375778415922091306== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dear swinogers due to the next swinog meeting i've moved the beer event to mid october ,-) (next will be somewhen mid november). the facts for the next event: ----------------------------- Date: 16th of October 2006 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the "Don Weber" (Hardstrasse 316, Near TIX). It's between the Escher-Wys Platz and the Cinemax. Registration deadline: 15.10.2006 23:59:59 Registration: ------------- Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ Since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap. Important: If someone cannot find us: call me on my handy: 079 / 277 92 35 greetings -steven --===============7375778415922091306==-- From Marco.Fullin@colt.net Wed Oct 11 21:29:46 2006 From: "Fullin, Marco" To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] bluewin.ch problems with some sites? Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:25:57 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9146325233461918498==" --===============9146325233461918498== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Is anyone out there able to connect to www.apple.ch and/or www.macosxhints.co= m using adsl(a)bluewin? 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I hope that some of you will find this interesting and are willing to interact, and subsequently, come. I am also sorry that the date I picked is identical with the date picked for the Beer Event, but there isn't much time for it all, and I didn't have too much free time in my calendar. So, let's start... I would like to invite you all to an introductive meeting into all the things we still require in order to get the swiss copyright reform into a better shape (for us). The problematic =============== The swiss copyright reform attempts to introduce DMCA-like legislation. It tries to criminalize any attempt to break a "protection system" of any type of content. It remains unspecified what a protection system is and what type of content can be protected. Together with the upcoming DRM regime, this legislation is, in my opinion, a severe threat to the upcoming information society, as well as to OpenSource in itself. It also constitutes a severe discrimination of handicapped people and is a serious inhibitor to science. The Council of States is soon going to make a decision on the issue. Soon, the National Council is going to follow. If everything goes like it did in our neighbor countries, the parliament is going to decide in favor of our fellow lobbyists from the BSA, Microsoft, Disney, MediaLive, the MPA etc. We don't have any lobbyists in the game up to this point, and nobody else is going to do this for us. What we need to do is to present our parliaments with our side of the story, so they know it even exists. We need good arguments to decide against the plans, or to adapt ammendments which will change the current proposal to our needs. I think we can even count on the support of the small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) in the IT area, as a lot of them do have interests in that area. If we act now, we still have a chance to keep our country free from this type of unfavorable legislation. Location and Time ================= On Monday, October 16th, 2006, from 18:00 to whenever we're going to finish. We're going to meet there: Nico Schottelius Hasenbuelerstrasse 15 CH-8625 Gossau ZH This is easily reachable by car from Zurich: just follow the motorway to Rapperswil and drop off, following the direction to Rapperswil. In Wetzikon, go to the right right after the railway station, in direction to Gossau. By train: go to Wetzikon, then take the bus to Gossau. Leave at the station "Gossau Moos". Then walk about 100m to the inner village, take the first street to the right and follow it to the end, then you'll see the house on the left side (that one with the huge pool). Agenda ====== * Work at a common position to the current set of ammendments that the council presented * Come up with own ammendments to the law * Maybe: short introduction to lobbying (but I don't think we'll have time for that) Most of the work has already been done by me, but currently, this is just my own work and doesn't have any basis in the "community". Food and drinks =============== Cannot be provided locally, you will have to take care of this yourself. Registration ============ Anyone can come without any need to register. However, it would be nice if you could drop me a mail so we can tell how many people will be coming. If you can't come at 18:00, it's ok if you arrive later. The participation is more important than arriving on the hour. Hoping for a broad base, Tonnerre --===============7110397101784057891== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.sig" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC41IChOZXRC U0QpCgppUUlWQXdVQlJTOUVTTzFtTUdhbi9UbldBUUxFemcvL1dEQ25naUVhQzZHQmlCOWxHV3ZO U1dMV3NTWm4rcUJaCnpzeG5vdURwZkcyZCtqRExGU0dNcDdZUUFFV0Q0Um9nSVJrbXduNDN4Y0hT SGovTTBpcjA3eGtIK3VjS3ZJN1EKd2RDcWFzc3luRTYyRFhDUDRWTkdjYjNpalJVcjJJYnh4Zmk1 ZUJWMjg3Wm1EZWFGQlJBRERaTHZoc01TcVB0agpJQmpsbXFFbnNhcWNBRitEN0xkY21KOFhhTlg1 ZjBQVUFDNGVuakc2bHU0emQ3dmNackczUjljUXZnd2JMaGZiCmdWWStWcHRvM1Q0RnlCR081TWJI cWxyZUtBdHhFYmVHWVp0aFJ4LzQvYStta0dDTFJ0Y0ZNWTJveG5zT21zOXoKVk52RzRrdVlLcXZq MFZkbmNqQ1VNSDd3aTJCa1VDYWMrTnI4SDN3NktzMDg4bjNrWlpoQjY4b3ovVm1iSVkzMgpYd2xk NUhvUEpYNjR6dkp4a3hqdDJaOUl0OElKQk9kcUNSWGlJdlFTbG13Mk4yeHN0QVUxSWIyOFpCUkty d0VyCnl2MWZkQ0RzbUhNS2RxandFemJoSUtwU0RmMXpSd3FZcHNkYUhRMXVZdmk0RWNQRG9qWk9L TEZpN1R2UHo3YVUKci9JZi8zcHh4dmhhUytRTDRXNFNMdlZIc3N3Yzk2enlmS2pxVjh6a1I0NVF3 YW9kRmpyak1tT2lJMGdQTW9zZQp3YnQ5dHdWRGozNWF6ZlRPQkxuMnphT3I3czRkUWpvUm81VkpY QzRWcTJhOURPeXk5TmlMYXBVeGpxWnFHcEUzCjc2TjJqY3dmWGZLRmhFcUdoejIwY0hDWTRObkMx dWJaa0dYcWc3TjhaVGluNllCV3NSOXcrMS81S20yTzFvSVAKSncrWTRmTkdnM2c9Cj1oUGo5Ci0t LS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQo= --===============7110397101784057891==-- From mick@coggins.org Fri Oct 13 13:06:55 2006 From: "M. Coggins" To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Job posting - 24x7 support engineer Geneva - Interoute Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:06:46 +0200 Message-ID: <452F7346.3000408@coggins.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8516338711741321453==" --===============8516338711741321453== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI http://www.interoute.com/company/careers/switzerland/4261CH.html -- Mickey Coggins --===============8516338711741321453==-- From richard@routerlab.org Mon Oct 16 12:10:14 2006 From: Richard Klingler To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:10:02 +0200 Message-ID: <45335A7A.30900@routerlab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2940373785418982065==" --===============2940373785418982065== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit EHLO (o; Has anyone also few customers whos ADSL connection is always cut after 30 - 60 seconds since last Thuersday/Friday? So far I know of 2 other ISPs with this problem which is not region specific... tia rick --===============2940373785418982065==-- From vito@easynet.ch Mon Oct 16 12:17:11 2006 From: vito To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:17:02 +0200 Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20061016121434.0195eb00@easynet.ch> In-Reply-To: <45335A7A.30900@routerlab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0199750930048793854==" --===============0199750930048793854== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi rick whe have the same problem with our adsl customer's now i have received this info from studerus ! ***************** Seit Freitag tritt mit einzelnen ZyXEL ADSL-Routern der alten Gerätegeneration eine Störung auf. Soweit bis heute bekannt, sind folgende Modelle betroffen: * ZyXEL P-650 * ZyXEL P-652 Das Problem äusserst sich darin, dass der Router kurz nach dem Login rebootet, d. h. ein Internetzugang ist nicht möglich. Die Ursache dieser Störung konnte bis jetzt nicht geklärt werden. Es könnte sich aufgrund erster Erkenntnisse um eine Attacke aus dem Internet handeln, die bei jenen Modellen zu dieser ungewünschten Reaktion führen. Studerus Telecom und ZyXEL arbeiten mit Hochdruck an der Lösung des Problems. Wieviele User von diesem Problem betroffen sind, ist noch unklar. Wir gehen aber davon aus, dass die Störung nicht bei allen P-65x-Modellen auftritt. Von diesen Gerätetypen sind 1'000ende im Markt verbreitet, Reklamationen sind jedoch erst wenige eingegangen. Wir werden Sie als Provider selbstverständlich über die weiteren Erkenntnisse auf dem laufenden halten. Bis das Problem behoben ist, bieten wir allen betroffenen Usern einen Umtausch in ein anderes - von diesem Problem nicht betroffenes - Modell an. Alle Anfragen und Umtäusche werden direkt von Studerus Telecom erledigt. Unter folgender Telefonnummer sind wir für Ihre Kunden erreichbar: 044 806 51 00 ************************************* regards vito dc. At 12:10 16.10.2006, you wrote: >EHLO (o; > > >Has anyone also few customers whos ADSL connection >is always cut after 30 - 60 seconds since last >Thuersday/Friday? > >So far I know of 2 other ISPs with this problem >which is not region specific... > > >tia >rick > >_______________________________________________ >swinog mailing list >swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog --===============0199750930048793854==-- From michel.renfer@finecom.ch Mon Oct 16 12:18:20 2006 From: Michel Renfer To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:18:15 +0200 Message-ID: <7ABEE57B986BDA429B535673CBE0C62302053AD9@xanthe.lan.intra> In-Reply-To: <45335A7A.30900@routerlab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5203471549562086900==" --===============5203471549562086900== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Richard I some minutes ago i got an email from Studerus Telecom. Could it be the same issue? --- Seit Freitag tritt mit einzelnen ZyXEL ADSL-Routern der alten Ger=C3=A4tegene= ration eine St=C3=B6rung auf. Soweit bis heute bekannt, sind folgende Modelle= betroffen:=20 ZyXEL P-650=20 ZyXEL P-652=20 Das Problem =C3=A4usserst sich darin, dass der Router kurz nach dem Login reb= ootet, d. h. ein Internetzugang ist nicht m=C3=B6glich. Die Ursache dieser St=C3=B6rung konnte bis jetzt nicht gekl=C3=A4rt werden. E= s k=C3=B6nnte sich aufgrund erster Erkenntnisse um eine Attacke aus dem Inter= net handeln, die bei jenen Modellen zu dieser ungew=C3=BCnschten Reaktion f= =C3=BChren.=20 Studerus Telecom und ZyXEL arbeiten mit Hochdruck an der L=C3=B6sung des Prob= lems.=20 Wieviele User von diesem Problem betroffen sind, ist noch unklar. Wir gehen a= ber davon aus, dass die St=C3=B6rung nicht bei allen P-65x-Modellen auftritt.= Von diesen Ger=C3=A4tetypen sind 1'000ende im Markt verbreitet, Reklamatione= n sind jedoch erst wenige eingegangen. --- cheers, michel > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch=20 > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Richard Klingler > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:10 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] bbcs disconnects >=20 > EHLO (o; >=20 >=20 > Has anyone also few customers whos ADSL connection > is always cut after 30 - 60 seconds since last > Thuersday/Friday? >=20 > So far I know of 2 other ISPs with this problem > which is not region specific... >=20 >=20 > tia > rick >=20 > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >=20 --===============5203471549562086900==-- From richard@routerlab.org Mon Oct 16 12:22:55 2006 From: Richard Klingler To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:22:46 +0200 Message-ID: <45335D76.3010402@routerlab.org> In-Reply-To: <7ABEE57B986BDA429B535673CBE0C62302053AD9@xanthe.lan.intra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7771568851603232504==" --===============7771568851603232504== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michel Renfer schrieb: > Hi Richard >=20 > I some minutes ago i got an email from Studerus Telecom. Could it be the > same issue? Haven't got any email from Studerus...just some hardware this morning (o; At least the Prestige 652 model fits the customer problem I'm dealing with currently... cheers rick >=20 > --- >=20 > Seit Freitag tritt mit einzelnen ZyXEL ADSL-Routern der alten Ger=C3=A4tege= neration eine St=C3=B6rung auf. Soweit bis heute bekannt, sind folgende Model= le betroffen:=20 >=20 > ZyXEL P-650=20 > ZyXEL P-652=20 >=20 > Das Problem =C3=A4usserst sich darin, dass der Router kurz nach dem Login r= ebootet, d. h. ein Internetzugang ist nicht m=C3=B6glich. >=20 > Die Ursache dieser St=C3=B6rung konnte bis jetzt nicht gekl=C3=A4rt werden.= Es k=C3=B6nnte sich aufgrund erster Erkenntnisse um eine Attacke aus dem Int= ernet handeln, die bei jenen Modellen zu dieser ungew=C3=BCnschten Reaktion f= =C3=BChren.=20 > Studerus Telecom und ZyXEL arbeiten mit Hochdruck an der L=C3=B6sung des Pr= oblems.=20 >=20 > Wieviele User von diesem Problem betroffen sind, ist noch unklar. Wir gehen= aber davon aus, dass die St=C3=B6rung nicht bei allen P-65x-Modellen auftrit= t. Von diesen Ger=C3=A4tetypen sind 1'000ende im Markt verbreitet, Reklamatio= nen sind jedoch erst wenige eingegangen. > --- >=20 > cheers, > michel >=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch=20 >> [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Richard Klingler >> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:10 PM >> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch >> Subject: [swinog] bbcs disconnects >> >> EHLO (o; >> >> >> Has anyone also few customers whos ADSL connection >> is always cut after 30 - 60 seconds since last >> Thuersday/Friday? >> >> So far I know of 2 other ISPs with this problem >> which is not region specific... >> >> >> tia >> rick >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swinog mailing list >> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >> > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >=20 > . >=20 --===============7771568851603232504==-- From richard@routerlab.org Mon Oct 16 13:05:13 2006 From: Richard Klingler To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:04:50 +0200 Message-ID: <45336752.9030400@routerlab.org> In-Reply-To: <45335D76.3010402@routerlab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8722130071014906908==" --===============8722130071014906908== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just got a call from my customer with this problem having several 652 in use.. Switched over to PPPoA on 2 sites and connection stays established... Can some other confirm this as well? Might be neccessary to plug off ADSL line during change of settings... Well..have to admit...not a very scalable solution if you got several 652 out in the filed (o; cheers rick Richard Klingler schrieb: > Michel Renfer schrieb: >> Hi Richard >> >> I some minutes ago i got an email from Studerus Telecom. Could it be the >> same issue? >=20 > Haven't got any email from Studerus...just some hardware this morning (o; >=20 > At least the Prestige 652 model fits the customer problem I'm dealing > with currently... >=20 >=20 >=20 > cheers > rick >=20 >=20 >> --- >> >> Seit Freitag tritt mit einzelnen ZyXEL ADSL-Routern der alten Ger=C3=A4teg= eneration eine St=C3=B6rung auf. Soweit bis heute bekannt, sind folgende Mode= lle betroffen:=20 >> >> ZyXEL P-650=20 >> ZyXEL P-652=20 >> >> Das Problem =C3=A4usserst sich darin, dass der Router kurz nach dem Login = rebootet, d. h. ein Internetzugang ist nicht m=C3=B6glich. >> >> Die Ursache dieser St=C3=B6rung konnte bis jetzt nicht gekl=C3=A4rt werden= . Es k=C3=B6nnte sich aufgrund erster Erkenntnisse um eine Attacke aus dem In= ternet handeln, die bei jenen Modellen zu dieser ungew=C3=BCnschten Reaktion = f=C3=BChren.=20 >> Studerus Telecom und ZyXEL arbeiten mit Hochdruck an der L=C3=B6sung des P= roblems.=20 >> >> Wieviele User von diesem Problem betroffen sind, ist noch unklar. Wir gehe= n aber davon aus, dass die St=C3=B6rung nicht bei allen P-65x-Modellen auftri= tt. Von diesen Ger=C3=A4tetypen sind 1'000ende im Markt verbreitet, Reklamati= onen sind jedoch erst wenige eingegangen. >> --- >> >> cheers, >> michel >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch=20 >>> [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Richard Klingler >>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:10 PM >>> To: swinog(a)swinog.ch >>> Subject: [swinog] bbcs disconnects >>> >>> EHLO (o; >>> >>> >>> Has anyone also few customers whos ADSL connection >>> is always cut after 30 - 60 seconds since last >>> Thuersday/Friday? >>> >>> So far I know of 2 other ISPs with this problem >>> which is not region specific... >>> >>> >>> tia >>> rick >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> swinog mailing list >>> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >>> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> swinog mailing list >> swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >> >> . >> >=20 > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >=20 > . >=20 --===============8722130071014906908==-- From mkr@mkr-tech.ch Mon Oct 16 13:19:45 2006 From: Manuel Krummenacher To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:19:33 +0200 Message-ID: <45336AC5.2020600@mkr-tech.ch> In-Reply-To: <45335A7A.30900@routerlab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6380328627999958973==" --===============6380328627999958973== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Richard Klingler wrote: > Has anyone also few customers whos ADSL connection > is always cut after 30 - 60 seconds since last > Thuersday/Friday? > I've got a mail from green.ch last saturday: "Momentan können bei der ADSL-Verbindung mit älteren ADSL-Geräten Schwierigkeiten auftreten. Betroffen sind vor allem Geräte der Serie Zyxel Prestige 642 und 650. Ein Reset und eine Neukonfiguration der Hardware können das Problem beheben." My 642 is running in bridged mode and seems to have no problems. Maybe you want to try the suggested reset and reconfigure? cheers, Manuel --===============6380328627999958973==-- From ylz@ylz.ch Mon Oct 16 14:23:48 2006 From: Daniel Kamm To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:23:31 +0200 Message-ID: <1161001411.5395.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <45336AC5.2020600@mkr-tech.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4926357843870812479==" --===============4926357843870812479== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 13:19 +0200, Manuel Krummenacher wrote: > "Momentan können bei der ADSL-Verbindung mit älteren ADSL-Geräten > Schwierigkeiten auftreten. Betroffen sind vor allem Geräte der Serie > Zyxel Prestige 642 und 650. Ein Reset und eine Neukonfiguration der > Hardware können das Problem beheben." My 642 runs in PPPoE mode and does not make any troubles, for 126 hours ;). - Dan --===============4926357843870812479==-- From xaerni@pop.ch Mon Oct 16 14:50:29 2006 From: Xaver Aerni To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: AW: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:43:34 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01c6f120$b1aeaca0$d3e88dc3@xariffusca9dfa> In-Reply-To: <1161001411.5395.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1348117387670549939==" --===============1348117387670549939== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My Prestige 650R work in transparent Mode with PPPoE and it work fine to. It work with an old Firmware Version 3.40(KH4). Greetings X. Aerni > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Daniel Kamm > Gesendet: Montag, 16. Oktober 2006 14:24 > An: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Betreff: Re: [swinog] bbcs disconnects > > On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 13:19 +0200, Manuel Krummenacher wrote: > > "Momentan können bei der ADSL-Verbindung mit älteren ADSL-Geräten > > Schwierigkeiten auftreten. Betroffen sind vor allem Geräte > der Serie > > Zyxel Prestige 642 und 650. Ein Reset und eine Neukonfiguration der > > Hardware können das Problem beheben." > > My 642 runs in PPPoE mode and does not make any troubles, for > 126 hours ;). > > - Dan > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > --===============1348117387670549939==-- From simon@limmat.switch.ch Tue Oct 17 16:53:44 2006 From: Simon Leinen To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-13 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:53:19 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7ABEE57B986BDA429B535673CBE0C62302053A17@xanthe.lan.intra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1540113878896322663==" --===============1540113878896322663== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, the agenda is out! http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog13/swinog13_agenda-txt.txt (Oh well, probably I'm the last one to notice because I don't IRC on #swinog, right? :-) Register here as long as there's still space: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog13/index.asp -- Simon. --===============1540113878896322663==-- From groeskens@bluewin.ch Tue Oct 17 16:59:26 2006 From: Guido Roeskens To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] bbcs disconnects Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:09:32 +0200 Message-ID: <45350E4C.707@bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: <45335A7A.30900@routerlab.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3455049171613337619==" --===============3455049171613337619== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, we have also customers with Zyxel equipement with problems. you should have receieved a Mail by Studerus or can read it in Netzwoche Ticker (german only). Regards, Guido Richard Klingler wrote: > EHLO (o; > > > Has anyone also few customers whos ADSL connection > is always cut after 30 - 60 seconds since last > Thuersday/Friday? > > So far I know of 2 other ISPs with this problem > which is not region specific... > > > tia > rick > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============3455049171613337619==-- From michel.renfer@finecom.ch Tue Oct 17 19:04:09 2006 From: Michel Renfer To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG-13 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:03:58 +0200 Message-ID: <7ABEE57B986BDA429B535673CBE0C62302053B0C@xanthe.lan.intra> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2605369247003152817==" --===============2605369247003152817== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Simon No, it's not because IRC ;-) I had to wait for some confirmations regarding the presentations. But now it's all done ;-) cheers, michel > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Simon Leinen > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:53 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-13 > > Hey, the agenda is out! > > http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog13/swinog13_agenda-txt.txt > > (Oh well, probably I'm the last one to notice because I don't IRC on > #swinog, right? :-) > > Register here as long as there's still space: > > http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog13/index.asp > -- > Simon. > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============2605369247003152817==-- From noc@trenka.ch Mon Oct 23 11:24:31 2006 From: noc@trenka.ch To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] AA2230 Power Supply Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:26:07 +0200 Message-ID: <0610231124197700@mail.trenka.ch> In-Reply-To: <000501c6f11e$e76fbb10$0a660a0a@trenka.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5997342711153857909==" --===============5997342711153857909== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All One of our cisco routers has lost power last night. Now we are looking for an ASTEC AA22230 power supply. They are used in C2691, C2801, C2811 routers. If somebody can help or has a spare one please contact me of list. Regards Milan Trenka --===============5997342711153857909==-- From Daniele.Guazzoni@audatex.ch Tue Oct 24 16:46:25 2006 From: "Guazzoni Daniele, CH" To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:46:11 +0200 Message-ID: <9D74A6A37032E54B8CF724A8147F4CBB01990404@AXCHREXE01.rd.audatex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5581909944289276710==" --===============5581909944289276710== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL <-- SNIP --> 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS 3303] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * <-- SNIP -->=20 =20 =20 Regards =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniele Guazzoni Network & System Engineer Cisco Certified Network Professional Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch Audatex Systems GmbH Zollstrasse 62 CH-8021 Zuerich Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 Web : http://www.audatex.com Audatex , a Solera company This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in them are c= onfidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received t= his message in error please notify the originator and delete the email immedi= ately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this messag= e is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from the company are monitored for op= erational reasons and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any opini= ons expressed are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent th= e views of the company. The company does not conclude contracts by email and = all negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain ou= r network free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any vir= uses which might be transferred by this e-mail. --===============5581909944289276710==-- From michel.renfer@finecom.ch Tue Oct 24 16:52:48 2006 From: Michel Renfer To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:52:39 +0200 Message-ID: <7ABEE57B986BDA429B535673CBE0C62302053BEC@xanthe.lan.intra> In-Reply-To: <9D74A6A37032E54B8CF724A8147F4CBB01990404@AXCHREXE01.rd.audatex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4209019609171898406==" --===============4209019609171898406== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was/is an issue inside cablecom affecting bgp customers reaching hosts inside as3303. No information if this problem is still present or solved. cheers, michel > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Guazzoni > Daniele, CH > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:46 PM > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > <-- SNIP --> > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS > 3303] 0 msec 4 > msec 0 msec > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS > 3303] 4 msec 0 > msec 4 msec > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 > msec 0 msec 4 > msec > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 > msec 0 msec 0 > msec > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0 > msec 4 msec > 8 * * * > 9 * * * > 10 * * * > <-- SNIP --> > > > > > > > Regards > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Daniele Guazzoni > Network & System Engineer > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > Audatex Systems GmbH > Zollstrasse 62 > CH-8021 Zuerich > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > Audatex , a Solera company > > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information > contained in them are confidential and is intended for the > addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error > please notify the originator and delete the email > immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or > alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to > and from the company are monitored for operational reasons > and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any > opinions expressed are those of the individual and do not > necessarily represent the views of the company. The company > does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations are > subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our > network free from computer viruses but accept no > responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by > this e-mail. > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============4209019609171898406==-- From oppermann@networx.ch Tue Oct 24 17:10:25 2006 From: Andre Oppermann To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Firefox ASNumber extension updated for FF2.0 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 17:10:19 +0200 Message-ID: <453E2CDB.7010006@networx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5784643378783429244==" --===============5784643378783429244== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We've updated the Firefox ASNumber extension for FF2.0, fixed some bugs and added a couple of features (no IPv6 lookups yet though): http://asnumber.networx.ch/ Enjoy. About: The ASNumber extension displays the Prefix, AS Number and a couple of interesting statistics about them in the Firefox statusbar panel. Feedback, comments, feature requests welcome. -- Andre --===============5784643378783429244==-- From ssinyagin@yahoo.com Tue Oct 24 17:35:12 2006 From: Stanislav Sinyagin To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:34:57 -0700 Message-ID: <20061024153457.3258.qmail@web51915.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <7ABEE57B986BDA429B535673CBE0C62302053BEC@xanthe.lan.intra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6311952692100472199==" --===============6311952692100472199== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, We've got the problem accessing Swisscom sites through out link via Deutsche Telecom (AS3320). The traceroute ends on DT router. Communication through Verizone works fine. any more info on your side which AS'es have problem reaching Swisscom? On our side the problem still persists. regards, stan --- Michel Renfer wrote: > > There was/is an issue inside cablecom affecting bgp customers > reaching hosts inside as3303. No information if this problem is still > present or solved. > > cheers, > michel > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Guazzoni > > Daniele, CH > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 4:46 PM > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > > > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > > <-- SNIP --> > > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS > > 3303] 0 msec 4 > > msec 0 msec > > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS > > 3303] 4 msec 0 > > msec 4 msec > > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 > > msec 0 msec 4 > > msec > > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 > > msec 0 msec 0 > > msec > > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0 > > msec 4 msec > > 8 * * * > > 9 * * * > > 10 * * * > > <-- SNIP --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Daniele Guazzoni > > Network & System Engineer > > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > > > Audatex Systems GmbH > > Zollstrasse 62 > > CH-8021 Zuerich > > > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > > > Audatex , a Solera company > > > > > > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information > > contained in them are confidential and is intended for the > > addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error > > please notify the originator and delete the email > > immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or > > alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to > > and from the company are monitored for operational reasons > > and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any > > opinions expressed are those of the individual and do not > > necessarily represent the views of the company. The company > > does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations are > > subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our > > network free from computer viruses but accept no > > responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by > > this e-mail. > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============6311952692100472199==-- From groeskens@bluewin.ch Tue Oct 24 18:12:45 2006 From: Guido Roeskens To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:15:17 +0200 Message-ID: <453E9075.20802@bluewin.ch> In-Reply-To: <9D74A6A37032E54B8CF724A8147F4CBB01990404@AXCHREXE01.rd.audatex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7386254998810555377==" --===============7386254998810555377== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at the TIX Traffic from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute instead of the direct peering at TIX. Peering was up again around 17:20 Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? >=20 > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > <-- SNIP --> > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS 3303] 0 msec 4 > msec 0 msec > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0 > msec 4 msec > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec 4 > msec > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec 0 > msec > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0 > msec 4 msec > 8 * * * > 9 * * * > 10 * * * > <-- SNIP -->=20 - What IP were you pinging? - Was this an IP which was connected? - Firewall Service disabled? Regards, Guido Roeskens >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 > Regards >=20 >=20 > =20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Daniele Guazzoni > Network & System Engineer > Cisco Certified Network Professional >=20 > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch >=20 > Audatex Systems GmbH > Zollstrasse 62 > CH-8021 Zuerich >=20 > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > Web : http://www.audatex.com >=20 > Audatex , a Solera company >=20 >=20 >=20 > This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in them are= confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received= this message in error please notify the originator and delete the email imme= diately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this mess= age is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from the company are monitored for = operational reasons and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any opi= nions expressed are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent = the views of the company. The company does not conclude contracts by email an= d all negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain = our network free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any v= iruses which might be transferred by this e-mail. > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >=20 --===============7386254998810555377==-- From noc@everyware.ch Tue Oct 24 20:50:39 2006 From: "Lukas Krattiger@NOC" To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:50:28 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c6f79d$46700370$5e7547d4@wxplukmob2> In-Reply-To: <453E9075.20802@bluewin.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6227476778902212252==" --===============6227476778902212252== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The connection over AS3320 (DTAG) to AS3303 (IP+) had 100% packet-loss, the re-routing over AS702 (Verizon) worked fine. At any time we had all AS3303-Routes (IP+) from both Peers, Verizon and DTAG. Looks like a DTAG / IP+ issue.=20 Cheers -Lukas -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.= ch] On Behalf Of Guido Roeskens Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 00:15 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch; Daniele.Guazzoni(a)audatex.ch; michel.renfer(a)fineco= m.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Hello, Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at the TIX Traffic from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute instead of the direct peering at TIX. Peering was up again around 17:20 Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? >=20 > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > <-- SNIP --> > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS 3303] 0 msec=20 > 4 msec 0 msec > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS 3303] 4 msec=20 > 0 msec 4 msec > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec=20 > 4 msec > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec=20 > 0 msec > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0=20 > msec 4 msec > 8 * * * > 9 * * * > 10 * * * > <-- SNIP --> - What IP were you pinging? - Was this an IP which was connected? - Firewall Service disabled? Regards, Guido Roeskens >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 > Regards >=20 >=20 > =20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Daniele Guazzoni > Network & System Engineer > Cisco Certified Network Professional >=20 > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch >=20 > Audatex Systems GmbH > Zollstrasse 62 > CH-8021 Zuerich >=20 > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > Web : http://www.audatex.com >=20 > Audatex , a Solera company >=20 >=20 >=20 > This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in them are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please notify the originator and delete the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from the company are monitored for operational reasons and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. The company does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our network free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by this e-mail. > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >=20 _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog --===============6227476778902212252==-- From Marco.Sudan@colt.net Wed Oct 25 10:27:51 2006 From: "Sudan, Marco" To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:27:39 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1239067259809832142==" --===============1239067259809832142== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys, is this problem still going on? I still receive complaints from customer that websites like www.bluewin.ch are not reachable. Does anyone knows something official?.... or inofficial? I don't care... cheers marco -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Lukas Krattiger(a)NOC Sent: Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 20:50 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? The connection over AS3320 (DTAG) to AS3303 (IP+) had 100% packet-loss, the re-routing over AS702 (Verizon) worked fine. At any time we had all AS3303-Routes (IP+) from both Peers, Verizon and DTAG. Looks like a DTAG / IP+ issue. Cheers -Lukas -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Guido Roeskens Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 00:15 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch; Daniele.Guazzoni(a)audatex.ch; michel.renfer(a)finecom.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Hello, Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at the TIX Traffic from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute instead of the direct peering at TIX. Peering was up again around 17:20 Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > <-- SNIP --> > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS 3303] 0 msec > 4 msec 0 msec > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS 3303] 4 msec > 0 msec 4 msec > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec > 4 msec > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec > 0 msec > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0 > msec 4 msec > 8 * * * > 9 * * * > 10 * * * > <-- SNIP --> - What IP were you pinging? - Was this an IP which was connected? - Firewall Service disabled? Regards, Guido Roeskens > > > > > > > Regards > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Daniele Guazzoni > Network & System Engineer > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > Audatex Systems GmbH > Zollstrasse 62 > CH-8021 Zuerich > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > Audatex , a Solera company > > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in > them are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please notify the originator and delete the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from the company are monitored for operational reasons and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. The company does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our network free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by this e-mail. > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog --===============1239067259809832142==-- From philou@philou.ch Wed Oct 25 10:29:58 2006 From: Philippe Strauss To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] dns10.register.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:29:45 +0200 Message-ID: <20061025082945.GA11096@philou.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1465182216021844409==" --===============1465182216021844409== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A rather weird mtr trying to reach dns10.register.com... My traceroute [v0.69] golap1 (0.0.0.0)(tos=3D0x0 psize=3D64 bitpattern=3D0x00) Wed Oct 25 10:1= 6:11 2006 Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst St= Dev 1. fw1.intra.goelaan.ch 0.0% 508 0.3 0.3 0.2 7.0 = 0.5 2. nextra1.goelaan.ch 0.0% 508 25.7 9.7 1.4 186.8 1= 7.8 3. 217.168.38.66 0.0% 507 23.0 19.4 6.8 169.5 1= 8.7 4. 217.168.38.65 0.0% 507 12.7 19.9 7.5 187.1 2= 2.9 5. 10.231.0.89 0.0% 507 42.3 31.1 12.6 209.4 2= 2.3 6. 10.231.240.1 0.0% 507 15.8 41.5 12.7 425.6 5= 0.6 7. ch-int-zhr-rp-01-Gi4-0.solpa.net 83.0% 507 16.5 36.0 14.1 246.4 3= 5.6 8. gig-4-3-704.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom 83.0% 507 68.6 32.2 13.9 86.2 1= 7.5 9. pos-0-0.blxOTF001.bb.cablecom.net 83.0% 507 33.5 35.0 13.7 215.4 2= 9.8 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net 10. ch-zrh01a-ra1-ge-0-1-0-0.aorta.ne 86.0% 507 63.1 34.9 15.7 96.0 2= 0.1 gig-6-2.blxZHZ002.bb.cablecom.net fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net 11. ch-gva01a-ra1-so-0-0-0-0.aorta.ne 88.3% 507 28.4 33.9 18.7 75.8 1= 5.3 pos-0-0.blxOTF001.bb.cablecom.net fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net 12. fr-par02a-rd1-pos-1-0.aorta.net 86.8% 507 15.9 63.9 15.9 254.3 3= 7.8 gig-6-2.blxZHZ002.bb.cablecom.net fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net 13. us-was02a-rd1-pos-1-0.aorta.net 89.3% 507 56.9 79.5 19.4 193.2 4= 0.0 uk-lon01a-rd1-pos-2-0.aorta.net pos-0-0.blxOTF001.bb.cablecom.net fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net 14. us-nyc01b-rd1-pos-10-0.aorta.net 90.7% 507 19.7 128.1 17.1 302.5 4= 8.5 gig-6-2.blxZHZ002.bb.cablecom.net fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net 15. pos-0-0.blxOTF001.bb.cablecom.net 99.2% 507 14.8 20.0 14.8 23.4 = 4.0 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net 16. gig-6-2.blxZHZ002.bb.cablecom.net 99.2% 507 31.6 33.5 16.2 46.3 1= 3.0 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net 17. pos-0-0.blxOTF001.bb.cablecom.net 99.2% 507 20.5 19.8 15.9 22.8 = 2.9 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net 18. gig-6-2.blxZHZ002.bb.cablecom.net 99.2% 507 18.7 38.9 18.7 57.6 1= 8.8 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net 19. pos-0-0.blxOTF001.bb.cablecom.net 99.2% 507 25.9 21.1 15.7 25.9 = 4.3 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net 20. gig-6-2.blxZHZ002.bb.cablecom.net 99.2% 506 17.8 26.4 15.4 52.5 1= 7.5 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net 21. pos-0-0.blxOTF001.bb.cablecom.net 99.2% 500 18.0 32.0 18.0 45.5 1= 4.8 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net 22. gig-6-2.blxZHZ002.bb.cablecom.net 99.1% 440 17.9 29.1 17.9 46.7 1= 3.9 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.n 99.1% 440 17.6 22.4 17.6 27.1 = 4.2 ... a standard traceroute: traceroute to dns10.register.com (216.21.226.75), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 fw1 (192.168.1.1) 0.233 ms 0.165 ms 0.154 ms 2 nextra1.goelaan.ch (212.47.181.33) 1.643 ms 1.512 ms 1.552 ms 3 217.168.38.66 (217.168.38.66) 13.432 ms 7.875 ms 37.066 ms 4 217.168.38.65 (217.168.38.65) 7.892 ms 8.483 ms 10.787 ms 5 10.231.0.89 (10.231.0.89) 15.760 ms 46.400 ms 12.897 ms 6 10.231.240.1 (10.231.240.1) 14.970 ms 26.013 ms 24.468 ms 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.10) 20.209 ms 22 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.9) 66.867 ms 17.912 ms 18= .254 ms 23 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.10) 62.714 ms 19.770 ms 19= .042 ms 24 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.9) 42.692 ms 23.020 ms 19= .131 ms 25 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.10) 20.305 ms 58.755 ms 14= .803 ms 26 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.9) 16.046 ms 68.466 ms 15= .345 ms 27 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.10) 15.958 ms 41.283 ms 23= .642 ms 28 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.9) 20.669 ms 15.539 ms 38= .205 ms 29 fast-0-0.brtZHZ003.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.10) 29.308 ms 15.799 ms 22= .036 ms 30 fast-15-3.blxZHZ002.gw.cablecom.net (62.2.33.9) 53.961 ms 17.963 ms 70= .102 ms bgp looking glass at cern show this: e513-e-rci65-3.cern.ch Date: Wed Oct 25 08:24:53 2006 CEST Query: Argument(s): 216.21.226.75 BGP routing table entry for 216.21.226.0/24, version 35728698 Paths: (2 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Multipath: eBGP Flag: 0x8A0 Advertised to update-groups: 2 6 10 =20 3356 3356 7018 4264 13910 13910 13910, (received & used) 192.65.184.11 (metric 1001) from 192.65.184.11 (192.65.184.11) Origin incomplete, metric 1000, localpref 10, weight 100, valid, intern= al, best Community: 513:92 3356 3356 7018 4264 13910 13910 13910, (received & used) 192.65.184.11 (metric 1001) from 192.65.184.7 (192.65.184.7) Origin incomplete, metric 1000, localpref 10, weight 100, valid, intern= al Community: 513:92 Originator: 192.65.184.11, Cluster list: 0.0.2.1 traceroute from this same cern router gives: Looking Glass Results - e513-e-rci65-3.cern.ch Date: Wed Oct 25 08:27:17 2006 CEST Query: Argument(s): 216.21.226.75 Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to 216.21.226.75 1 * * *=20 2 * * *=20 3 * * *=20 4 * * *=20 5 * * *=20 6 * * *=20 7 * * *=20 8 * * *=20 9 * * *=20 10 * * *=20 11 * * *=20 redards. --=20 Philippe Strauss av. de Beaulieu 25 1004 Lausanne http://philou.ch --===============1465182216021844409==-- From philou@philou.ch Wed Oct 25 10:40:51 2006 From: Philippe Strauss To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] dns10.register.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:40:38 +0200 Message-ID: <20061025084038.GB11096@philou.ch> In-Reply-To: <20061025082945.GA11096@philou.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5785765751823895483==" --===============5785765751823895483== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable following my own post, switch and nordunet bgp looking glass return "network not in table", RIPE looking glass return a default route, but is reachable via traceroute: Traceroute from RRC00 to 216.21.226.75. traceroute to 216.21.226.75 (216.21.226.75), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 gw.dev.nsrp.ripe.net (193.0.0.14) 0.428 ms 0.390 ms 0.381 ms 2 GigabitEthernet3-2.core2.ams1.level3.net (195.69.144.110) 2.508 ms 202.= 686 ms 1.990 ms 3 ge-7-0-0.mp2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net (4.68.125.205) 1.095 ms ge-0-0-0.mp2.= Amsterdam1.Level3.net (4.68.96.197) 74.588 ms ge-7-0-0.mp2.Amsterdam1.Level3= .net (4.68.125.205) 1.085 ms 4 ae-0-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.42) 74.247 ms 74.028 ms 73.9= 95 ms 5 ae-23-52.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.97.50) 74.067 ms ae-13-55.car3.N= ewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.97.146) 74.204 ms ae-13-51.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net= (4.68.97.18) 74.171 ms 6 ggr2-p360.n54ny.ip.att.net (192.205.33.93) 288.354 ms att-level3-oc192.N= ewYork1.Level3.net (4.68.127.150) 88.747 ms 122.789 ms 7 tbr1-p010401.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.3.57) 75.670 ms 75.901 ms 76.346= ms 8 gar4-p300.n54ny.ip.att.net (12.123.3.2) 253.718 ms 150.569 ms 113.689 = ms 9 mdf16-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.nyc2.attens.com (12.122.255.214) 295.640 ms 296.0= 16 ms 295.561 ms 10 mdf19-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.nyc2.attens.net (63.240.0.110) 295.347 ms 296.296 = ms 295.773 ms 11 63.240.5.102 (63.240.5.102) 297.601 ms 296.192 ms 296.644 ms 12 * * * 13 dns10.register.com (216.21.226.75) 296.623 ms 295.915 ms 296.313 ms --=20 Philippe Strauss av. de Beaulieu 25 1004 Lausanne http://philou.ch --===============5785765751823895483==-- From lists.nik@nts.ch Wed Oct 25 10:43:03 2006 From: Nik Hug To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] dns10.register.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:43:02 +0200 Message-ID: <453F2396.1040606@nts.ch> In-Reply-To: <20061025084038.GB11096@philou.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6262967268382052390==" --===============6262967268382052390== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit there was already a message on nanog this morning. Register.com seems to have troubles. Regards Nik --===============6262967268382052390==-- From ssinyagin@yahoo.com Wed Oct 25 12:41:45 2006 From: Stanislav Sinyagin To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:41:33 -0700 Message-ID: <20061025104133.89597.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2519245256757970836==" --===============2519245256757970836== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I called DT (12:30), they have plenty of tickets open, and no status update yet. --- "Sudan, Marco" wrote: > Guys, is this problem still going on? I still receive complaints from > customer that websites like www.bluewin.ch are not reachable. > > Does anyone knows something official?.... or inofficial? I don't care... > > cheers > marco > > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Lukas Krattiger(a)NOC > Sent: Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 20:50 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > > The connection over AS3320 (DTAG) to AS3303 (IP+) had 100% packet-loss, > the re-routing over AS702 (Verizon) worked fine. At any time we had all > AS3303-Routes (IP+) from both Peers, Verizon and DTAG. Looks like a DTAG > / IP+ issue. > Cheers > -Lukas > > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] > On Behalf Of Guido Roeskens > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 00:15 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch; Daniele.Guazzoni(a)audatex.ch; > michel.renfer(a)finecom.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > Hello, > > Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? > > we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at the TIX Traffic > from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute instead of the > direct peering at TIX. > > Peering was up again around 17:20 > > Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > > <-- SNIP --> > > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS 3303] 0 msec > > 4 msec 0 msec > > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS 3303] 4 msec > > > 0 msec 4 msec > > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec > > > 4 msec > > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec > > 0 msec > > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0 > > msec 4 msec > > 8 * * * > > 9 * * * > > 10 * * * > > <-- SNIP --> > - What IP were you pinging? > - Was this an IP which was connected? > - Firewall Service disabled? > > > Regards, > > Guido Roeskens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Daniele Guazzoni > > Network & System Engineer > > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > > > Audatex Systems GmbH > > Zollstrasse 62 > > CH-8021 Zuerich > > > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > > > Audatex , a Solera company > > > > > > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in > > them > are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have > received this message in error please notify the originator and delete > the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or > alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from > the company are monitored for operational reasons and in accordance with > lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed are those of the > individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. > The company does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations > are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our network > free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any viruses > which might be transferred by this e-mail. > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============2519245256757970836==-- From ssinyagin@yahoo.com Wed Oct 25 14:44:45 2006 From: Stanislav Sinyagin To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 05:44:28 -0700 Message-ID: <20061025124428.35727.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20061025104133.89597.qmail@web51908.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6313128392676980380==" --===============6313128392676980380== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable we restored the peering with DT, and now it goes fine.=20 DT could not find any problems and they didn't change anything in their equipment... --- Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > I called DT (12:30), they have plenty of tickets open, and no status=20 > update yet. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- "Sudan, Marco" wrote: >=20 > > Guys, is this problem still going on? I still receive complaints from > > customer that websites like www.bluewin.ch are not reachable. > >=20 > > Does anyone knows something official?.... or inofficial? I don't care... > >=20 > > cheers > > marco > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Lukas Krattiger(a)= NOC > > Sent: Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 20:50 > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > >=20 > >=20 > > The connection over AS3320 (DTAG) to AS3303 (IP+) had 100% packet-loss, > > the re-routing over AS702 (Verizon) worked fine. At any time we had all > > AS3303-Routes (IP+) from both Peers, Verizon and DTAG. Looks like a DTAG > > / IP+ issue.=20 > > Cheers > > -Lukas > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] > > On Behalf Of Guido Roeskens > > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 00:15 > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch; Daniele.Guazzoni(a)audatex.ch; > > michel.renfer(a)finecom.ch > > Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? > >=20 > > we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at the TIX Traffic > > from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute instead of the > > direct peering at TIX. > >=20 > > Peering was up again around 17:20 > >=20 > > Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > > > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > >=20 > > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > > > <-- SNIP --> > > > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS 3303] 0 msec > > > 4 msec 0 msec > > > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS 3303] 4 msec > >=20 > > > 0 msec 4 msec > > > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec > >=20 > > > 4 msec > > > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0 msec=20 > > > 0 msec > > > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec 0=20 > > > msec 4 msec > > > 8 * * * > > > 9 * * * > > > 10 * * * > > > <-- SNIP --> > > - What IP were you pinging? > > - Was this an IP which was connected? > > - Firewall Service disabled? > >=20 > >=20 > > Regards, > >=20 > > Guido Roeskens > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > =20 > > > =20 > > > Regards > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > =20 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Daniele Guazzoni > > > Network & System Engineer > > > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > >=20 > > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > >=20 > > > Audatex Systems GmbH > > > Zollstrasse 62 > > > CH-8021 Zuerich > > >=20 > > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > > > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > >=20 > > > Audatex , a Solera company > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in=20 > > > them > > are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have > > received this message in error please notify the originator and delete > > the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or > > alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from > > the company are monitored for operational reasons and in accordance with > > lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed are those of the > > individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. > > The company does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations > > are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our network > > free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any viruses > > which might be transferred by this e-mail. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch=20 > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >=20 --===============6313128392676980380==-- From Robert.Guentensperger@sunrise.net Wed Oct 25 14:46:37 2006 From: =?utf-8?q?G=C3=BCntensperger=2C?= Robert To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:46:27 +0200 Message-ID: <52B11FFE8DBFD94F83AB75865ACAAE5493EF60@SM0108.swi.srse.net> In-Reply-To: <20061025124428.35727.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2412261057985414988==" --===============2412261057985414988== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They're simply too big to know if or if not... > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Stanislav Sinyagin > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 14:44 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > we restored the peering with DT, and now it goes fine. > DT could not find any problems and they didn't change > anything in their > equipment... > > > > --- Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > > > I called DT (12:30), they have plenty of tickets open, and > no status > > update yet. > > > > > > > > --- "Sudan, Marco" wrote: > > > > > Guys, is this problem still going on? I still receive > complaints from > > > customer that websites like www.bluewin.ch are not reachable. > > > > > > Does anyone knows something official?.... or inofficial? > I don't care... > > > > > > cheers > > > marco > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Lukas Krattiger(a)NOC > > > Sent: Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 20:50 > > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > > Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > > > > > > > > The connection over AS3320 (DTAG) to AS3303 (IP+) had > 100% packet-loss, > > > the re-routing over AS702 (Verizon) worked fine. At any > time we had all > > > AS3303-Routes (IP+) from both Peers, Verizon and DTAG. > Looks like a DTAG > > > / IP+ issue. > > > Cheers > > > -Lukas > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] > > > On Behalf Of Guido Roeskens > > > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 00:15 > > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch; Daniele.Guazzoni(a)audatex.ch; > > > michel.renfer(a)finecom.ch > > > Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? > > > > > > we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at > the TIX Traffic > > > from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute > instead of the > > > direct peering at TIX. > > > > > > Peering was up again around 17:20 > > > > > > Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > > > > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > > > > > > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > > > > <-- SNIP --> > > > > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) > [AS 3303] 0 msec > > > > 4 msec 0 msec > > > > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) > [AS 3303] 4 msec > > > > > > > 0 msec 4 msec > > > > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS > 3303] 0 msec 0 msec > > > > > > > 4 msec > > > > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] > 0 msec 0 msec > > > > 0 msec > > > > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS > 3303] 4 msec 0 > > > > msec 4 msec > > > > 8 * * * > > > > 9 * * * > > > > 10 * * * > > > > <-- SNIP --> > > > - What IP were you pinging? > > > - Was this an IP which was connected? > > > - Firewall Service disabled? > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Guido Roeskens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Daniele Guazzoni > > > > Network & System Engineer > > > > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > > > > > > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > > > > > > > Audatex Systems GmbH > > > > Zollstrasse 62 > > > > CH-8021 Zuerich > > > > > > > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > > > > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > > > > > > > Audatex , a Solera company > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information > contained in > > > > them > > > are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) > only. 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We make every effort to maintain > our network > > > free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility > for any viruses > > > which might be transferred by this e-mail. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > swinog mailing list > > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============2412261057985414988==-- From Robert.Guentensperger@sunrise.net Wed Oct 25 14:48:07 2006 From: =?utf-8?q?G=C3=BCntensperger=2C?= Robert To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:46:27 +0200 Message-ID: <52B11FFE8DBFD94F83AB75865ACAAE5493EF61@SM0108.swi.srse.net> In-Reply-To: <20061025124428.35727.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0181108440797926475==" --===============0181108440797926475== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry my signature went lost ;-)) Cheers, Günti They're simply too big to know if or if not... > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Stanislav Sinyagin > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 14:44 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > we restored the peering with DT, and now it goes fine. > DT could not find any problems and they didn't change > anything in their > equipment... > > > > --- Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > > > I called DT (12:30), they have plenty of tickets open, and > no status > > update yet. > > > > > > > > --- "Sudan, Marco" wrote: > > > > > Guys, is this problem still going on? I still receive > complaints from > > > customer that websites like www.bluewin.ch are not reachable. > > > > > > Does anyone knows something official?.... or inofficial? > I don't care... > > > > > > cheers > > > marco > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of > Lukas Krattiger(a)NOC > > > Sent: Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 20:50 > > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > > Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > > > > > > > > The connection over AS3320 (DTAG) to AS3303 (IP+) had > 100% packet-loss, > > > the re-routing over AS702 (Verizon) worked fine. At any > time we had all > > > AS3303-Routes (IP+) from both Peers, Verizon and DTAG. > Looks like a DTAG > > > / IP+ issue. > > > Cheers > > > -Lukas > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] > > > On Behalf Of Guido Roeskens > > > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 00:15 > > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch; Daniele.Guazzoni(a)audatex.ch; > > > michel.renfer(a)finecom.ch > > > Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? > > > > > > we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at > the TIX Traffic > > > from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute > instead of the > > > direct peering at TIX. > > > > > > Peering was up again around 17:20 > > > > > > Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > > > > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > > > > > > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > > > > <-- SNIP --> > > > > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) > [AS 3303] 0 msec > > > > 4 msec 0 msec > > > > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) > [AS 3303] 4 msec > > > > > > > 0 msec 4 msec > > > > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS > 3303] 0 msec 0 msec > > > > > > > 4 msec > > > > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] > 0 msec 0 msec > > > > 0 msec > > > > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS > 3303] 4 msec 0 > > > > msec 4 msec > > > > 8 * * * > > > > 9 * * * > > > > 10 * * * > > > > <-- SNIP --> > > > - What IP were you pinging? > > > - Was this an IP which was connected? > > > - Firewall Service disabled? > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Guido Roeskens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Daniele Guazzoni > > > > Network & System Engineer > > > > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > > > > > > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > > > > > > > Audatex Systems GmbH > > > > Zollstrasse 62 > > > > CH-8021 Zuerich > > > > > > > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > > > > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > > > > > > > Audatex , a Solera company > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information > contained in > > > > them > > > are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) > only. 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We make every effort to maintain > our network > > > free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility > for any viruses > > > which might be transferred by this e-mail. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > swinog mailing list > > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============0181108440797926475==-- From simon@limmat.switch.ch Wed Oct 25 14:54:49 2006 From: Simon Leinen To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] dns10.register.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:54:37 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20061025084038.GB11096@philou.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4575549841366631603==" --===============4575549841366631603== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Philippe Strauss writes: > following my own post, > switch and nordunet bgp looking glass return "network not in table", Note that "network not in table" doesn't mean much for SWITCH, since we don't have full routing (we use multiple default routes to different upstream providers). > RIPE looking glass return a default route, [...] That's a bad sign however :-) -- Simon Leinen simon(a)babar.switch.ch SWITCH http://www.switch.ch/misc/leinen/ Computers hate being anthropomorphized. --===============4575549841366631603==-- From noc@everyware.ch Wed Oct 25 15:00:54 2006 From: "Lukas Krattiger@NOC" To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:00:46 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c6f835$968520a0$5d7547d4@wxplukmob2> In-Reply-To: <20061025124428.35727.qmail@web51903.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6692661836434206741==" --===============6692661836434206741== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The problem between IP+ and DTAG occurred again shortly after lunchtime. We'll see what happens now. Cheers -Lukas=20 -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.= ch] On Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 14:44 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? we restored the peering with DT, and now it goes fine.=20 DT could not find any problems and they didn't change anything in their equipment... --- Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > I called DT (12:30), they have plenty of tickets open, and no status=20 > update yet. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- "Sudan, Marco" wrote: >=20 > > Guys, is this problem still going on? I still receive complaints=20 > > from customer that websites like www.bluewin.ch are not reachable. > >=20 > > Does anyone knows something official?.... or inofficial? I don't care... > >=20 > > cheers > > marco > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch=20 > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Lukas=20 > > Krattiger(a)NOC > > Sent: Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 20:50 > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > >=20 > >=20 > > The connection over AS3320 (DTAG) to AS3303 (IP+) had 100%=20 > > packet-loss, the re-routing over AS702 (Verizon) worked fine. At any=20 > > time we had all AS3303-Routes (IP+) from both Peers, Verizon and=20 > > DTAG. Looks like a DTAG / IP+ issue. > > Cheers > > -Lukas > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch=20 > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] > > On Behalf Of Guido Roeskens > > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 00:15 > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch; Daniele.Guazzoni(a)audatex.ch;=20 > > michel.renfer(a)finecom.ch > > Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? > >=20 > > we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at the TIX=20 > > Traffic from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute=20 > > instead of the direct peering at TIX. > >=20 > > Peering was up again around 17:20 > >=20 > > Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > > > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > >=20 > > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > > > <-- SNIP --> > > > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS 3303] 0=20 > > > msec > > > 4 msec 0 msec > > > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS 3303] 4=20 > > > msec > >=20 > > > 0 msec 4 msec > > > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0=20 > > > msec > >=20 > > > 4 msec > > > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0=20 > > > msec 0 msec > > > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec=20 > > > 0 msec 4 msec > > > 8 * * * > > > 9 * * * > > > 10 * * * > > > <-- SNIP --> > > - What IP were you pinging? > > - Was this an IP which was connected? > > - Firewall Service disabled? > >=20 > >=20 > > Regards, > >=20 > > Guido Roeskens > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > =20 > > > =20 > > > Regards > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > =20 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Daniele Guazzoni > > > Network & System Engineer > > > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > >=20 > > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > >=20 > > > Audatex Systems GmbH > > > Zollstrasse 62 > > > CH-8021 Zuerich > > >=20 > > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > > > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > >=20 > > > Audatex , a Solera company > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in=20 > > > them > > are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you=20 > > have received this message in error please notify the originator and=20 > > delete the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure,=20 > > copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails=20 > > to and from the company are monitored for operational reasons and in=20 > > accordance with lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed=20 > > are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. > > The company does not conclude contracts by email and all=20 > > negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to=20 > > maintain our network free from computer viruses but accept no=20 > > responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by this e-mail. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > swinog mailing list > > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > _______________________________________________ > > swinog mailing list > > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog >=20 _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog --===============6692661836434206741==-- From noc@everyware.ch Wed Oct 25 15:20:03 2006 From: "Lukas Krattiger@NOC" To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:19:54 +0200 Message-ID: <000101c6f838$429d2610$5d7547d4@wxplukmob2> In-Reply-To: <000001c6f835$968520a0$5d7547d4@wxplukmob2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1758530185871901807==" --===============1758530185871901807== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a ticket open at ip+ because of routing problems. http://www.ipplus.net/network/network_status/index.de.mpl?SYS_state=3Dinit;SYS _nav_lnk=3Dcurrent -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.= ch] On Behalf Of Lukas Krattiger(a)NOC Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 15:01 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? The problem between IP+ and DTAG occurred again shortly after lunchtime. We'll see what happens now. Cheers -Lukas=20 -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.= ch] On Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 14:44 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? we restored the peering with DT, and now it goes fine.=20 DT could not find any problems and they didn't change anything in their equipment... --- Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > I called DT (12:30), they have plenty of tickets open, and no status=20 > update yet. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --- "Sudan, Marco" wrote: >=20 > > Guys, is this problem still going on? I still receive complaints=20 > > from customer that websites like www.bluewin.ch are not reachable. > >=20 > > Does anyone knows something official?.... or inofficial? I don't care... > >=20 > > cheers > > marco > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch=20 > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Lukas=20 > > Krattiger(a)NOC > > Sent: Dienstag, 24. Oktober 2006 20:50 > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > > Subject: RE: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > >=20 > >=20 > > The connection over AS3320 (DTAG) to AS3303 (IP+) had 100%=20 > > packet-loss, the re-routing over AS702 (Verizon) worked fine. At any=20 > > time we had all AS3303-Routes (IP+) from both Peers, Verizon and=20 > > DTAG. Looks like a DTAG / IP+ issue. > > Cheers > > -Lukas > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch=20 > > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] > > On Behalf Of Guido Roeskens > > Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 00:15 > > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch; Daniele.Guazzoni(a)audatex.ch;=20 > > michel.renfer(a)finecom.ch > > Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin Problems ? > >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > Michel, any information (details) about Cablecom problems? > >=20 > > we saw some issues between Sunrise and IP-Plus today at the TIX=20 > > Traffic from Bluewin (IP-Plus) went over DE-CIX to Interroute=20 > > instead of the direct peering at TIX. > >=20 > > Peering was up again around 17:20 > >=20 > > Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: > > > Anybody knows about problems with Bluewin ? > > >=20 > > > This is a trace toward a Bluewin ADSL > > > <-- SNIP --> > > > 3 i79tix-015-gig2-17.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.97) [AS 3303] 0=20 > > > msec > > > 4 msec 0 msec > > > 4 i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73) [AS 3303] 4=20 > > > msec > >=20 > > > 0 msec 4 msec > > > 5 net603.bwrt2inh.bluewin.ch (195.186.0.233) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0=20 > > > msec > >=20 > > > 4 msec > > > 6 net25.bwrt1zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.25.69) [AS 3303] 0 msec 0=20 > > > msec 0 msec > > > 7 ge0-1.bwadsl18zhh.bluewin.ch (195.186.122.19) [AS 3303] 4 msec=20 > > > 0 msec 4 msec > > > 8 * * * > > > 9 * * * > > > 10 * * * > > > <-- SNIP --> > > - What IP were you pinging? > > - Was this an IP which was connected? > > - Firewall Service disabled? > >=20 > >=20 > > Regards, > >=20 > > Guido Roeskens > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > =20 > > > =20 > > > Regards > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > =20 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Daniele Guazzoni > > > Network & System Engineer > > > Cisco Certified Network Professional > > >=20 > > > Email: daniele.guazzoni(a)audatex.ch > > >=20 > > > Audatex Systems GmbH > > > Zollstrasse 62 > > > CH-8021 Zuerich > > >=20 > > > Tel : +41 44 278 87 54 Fax : +41 44 278 85 15 > > > Web : http://www.audatex.com > > >=20 > > > Audatex , a Solera company > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in=20 > > > them > > are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. 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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:30 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3394404234296888295==" --===============3394404234296888295== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be out of the office starting 25.10.2006 and will not return until 27.10.2006. Your email will not be forwarded. I will respond to your message when I return. Best Regards Candid Aeby --===============3394404234296888295==-- From pascal.gloor@spale.com Thu Oct 26 11:39:16 2006 From: Pascal Gloor To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:39:01 +0200 Message-ID: <1161855541.6866.17.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8307049850715878526==" --===============8307049850715878526== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear SwiNOGers, SwiNOG#13 registration has been kind of urgently closed. The current number of attendees is 112. Unfortunately we do not have enough place for 112, we're limited to 100. !!! The 12 last registration have been set to "Pending" !!! If you are one of those 12, you will have to wait for cancellations of other attendees. If you are one of the 100 confirmed and you do not expect to join the meeting, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP !!! Check the participants list[1] to verify if your registration is PENDING or not. 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boundary="===============3398455534686073418==" --===============3398455534686073418== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All! Of course Nico had to cancel his speach due to an (sport) accident. There's now an open presenation slot of 30-45min. Anyone interested? cheers, michel --===============3398455534686073418==-- From m.hertzog@mhs.ch Thu Oct 26 14:29:20 2006 From: Matthias Hertzog To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Off-Topic: Looking for Racks Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:08:27 +0200 Message-ID: <23ed01c6f8f7$721076d0$6501a8c0@mhz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1325775542953114744==" --===============1325775542953114744== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there! If anyone out there wants to get rid of some 19" racks, please let me know. We're looking of full-height racks, but also for some half-height racks (ca. 1.20m - 1.60m) for our lab. Please contact me off-list if you need some space in your garage ... They don't have to be free, all kind of compensation between a box of beer and some real cash is subject of negotiation :-) Thanks & best wishes, Matthias --===============1325775542953114744==-- From anthony.drozdek@tele2.com Thu Oct 26 14:43:29 2006 From: Anthony Drozdek To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] Off-Topic: Looking for Racks Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:43:15 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <23ed01c6f8f7$721076d0$6501a8c0@mhz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2781920398787253453==" --===============2781920398787253453== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, we may have some 19" full height racks how many do you need? "Matthias Hertzog" Sent by: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch 26.10.2006 14:08 Please respond to swinog(a)swinog.ch To cc Subject [swinog] Off-Topic: Looking for Racks Hi there! If anyone out there wants to get rid of some 19" racks, please let me know. We're looking of full-height racks, but also for some half-height racks (ca. 1.20m - 1.60m) for our lab. Please contact me off-list if you need some space in your garage ... They don't have to be free, all kind of compensation between a box of beer and some real cash is subject of negotiation :-) Thanks & best wishes, Matthias _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog --===============2781920398787253453== Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cjxicj48Zm9udCBzaXplPTIgZmFjZT0ic2Fucy1zZXJpZiI+SGVsbG8sPC9mb250Pgo8YnI+PGZv bnQgc2l6ZT0yIGZhY2U9InNhbnMtc2VyaWYiPndlIG1heSBoYXZlIHNvbWUgMTkmcXVvdDsgZnVs bCBoZWlnaHQKcmFja3M8L2ZvbnQ+Cjxicj48Zm9udCBzaXplPTIgZmFjZT0ic2Fucy1zZXJpZiI+ aG93IG1hbnkgZG8geW91IG5lZWQ/PC9mb250Pgo8YnI+Cjxicj4KPGJyPgo8YnI+Cjx0YWJsZSB3 aWR0aD0xMDAlPgo8dHIgdmFsaWduPXRvcD4KPHRkIHdpZHRoPTQwJT48Zm9udCBzaXplPTEgZmFj ZT0ic2Fucy1zZXJpZiI+PGI+JnF1b3Q7TWF0dGhpYXMgSGVydHpvZyZxdW90OwombHQ7bS5oZXJ0 em9nQG1ocy5jaCZndDs8L2I+IDwvZm9udD4KPGJyPgo8YnI+PGZvbnQgc2l6ZT0xIGZhY2U9InNh bnMtc2VyaWYiPlNlbnQgYnk6IHN3aW5vZy1ib3VuY2VzQGxpc3RzLnN3aW5vZy5jaDwvZm9udD4K PHA+PGZvbnQgc2l6ZT0xIGZhY2U9InNhbnMtc2VyaWYiPjI2LjEwLjIwMDYgMTQ6MDg8L2ZvbnQ+ Cjx0YWJsZSBib3JkZXI+Cjx0ciB2YWxpZ249dG9wPgo8dGQgYmdjb2xvcj13aGl0ZT4KPGRpdiBh bGlnbj1jZW50ZXI+PGZvbnQgc2l6ZT0xIGZhY2U9InNhbnMtc2VyaWYiPlBsZWFzZSByZXNwb25k IHRvPGJyPgpzd2lub2dAc3dpbm9nLmNoPC9mb250PjwvZGl2PjwvdGFibGU+Cjxicj4KPHRkIHdp ZHRoPTU5JT4KPHRhYmxlIHdpZHRoPTEwMCU+Cjx0cj4KPHRkPgo8ZGl2IGFsaWduPXJpZ2h0Pjxm b250IHNpemU9MSBmYWNlPSJzYW5zLXNlcmlmIj5UbzwvZm9udD48L2Rpdj4KPHRkIHZhbGlnbj10 b3A+PGZvbnQgc2l6ZT0xIGZhY2U9InNhbnMtc2VyaWYiPiZsdDtzd2lub2dAc3dpbm9nLmNoJmd0 OzwvZm9udD4KPHRyPgo8dGQ+CjxkaXYgYWxpZ249cmlnaHQ+PGZvbnQgc2l6ZT0xIGZhY2U9InNh bnMtc2VyaWYiPmNjPC9mb250PjwvZGl2Pgo8dGQgdmFsaWduPXRvcD4KPHRyPgo8dGQ+CjxkaXYg YWxpZ249cmlnaHQ+PGZvbnQgc2l6ZT0xIGZhY2U9InNhbnMtc2VyaWYiPlN1YmplY3Q8L2ZvbnQ+ PC9kaXY+Cjx0ZCB2YWxpZ249dG9wPjxmb250IHNpemU9MSBmYWNlPSJzYW5zLXNlcmlmIj5bc3dp bm9nXSBPZmYtVG9waWM6IExvb2tpbmcKZm9yIFJhY2tzPC9mb250PjwvdGFibGU+Cjxicj4KPHRh YmxlPgo8dHIgdmFsaWduPXRvcD4KPHRkPgo8dGQ+PC90YWJsZT4KPGJyPjwvdGFibGU+Cjxicj4K PGJyPgo8YnI+PGZvbnQgc2l6ZT0yPjx0dD5IaSB0aGVyZSE8YnI+Cjxicj4KSWYgYW55b25lIG91 dCB0aGVyZSB3YW50cyB0byBnZXQgcmlkIG9mIHNvbWUgMTkmcXVvdDsgcmFja3MsIHBsZWFzZSBs ZXQKbWUga25vdy4gPGJyPgpXZSdyZSBsb29raW5nIG9mIGZ1bGwtaGVpZ2h0IHJhY2tzLCBidXQg YWxzbyBmb3Igc29tZSBoYWxmLWhlaWdodCByYWNrcwooY2EuIDxicj4KMS4yMG0gLSAxLjYwbSkg Zm9yIG91ciBsYWIuPGJyPgo8YnI+ClBsZWFzZSBjb250YWN0IG1lIG9mZi1saXN0IGlmIHlvdSBu ZWVkIHNvbWUgc3BhY2UgaW4geW91ciBnYXJhZ2UgLi4uPGJyPgo8YnI+ClRoZXkgZG9uJ3QgaGF2 ZSB0byBiZSBmcmVlLCBhbGwga2luZCBvZiBjb21wZW5zYXRpb24gYmV0d2VlbiBhIGJveCBvZiBi ZWVyCjxicj4KYW5kIHNvbWUgcmVhbCBjYXNoIGlzIHN1YmplY3Qgb2YgbmVnb3RpYXRpb24gOi0p PGJyPgo8YnI+ClRoYW5rcyAmYW1wOyBiZXN0IHdpc2hlcyw8YnI+Ck1hdHRoaWFzPGJyPgo8YnI+ Cl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fPGJyPgpzd2lu b2cgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0PGJyPgpzd2lub2dAbGlzdHMuc3dpbm9nLmNoPGJyPgpodHRwOi8vbGlz dHMuc3dpbm9nLmNoL2NnaS1iaW4vbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9zd2lub2c8YnI+CjwvdHQ+PC9m b250Pgo8YnI+ --===============2781920398787253453==-- From mailinglisten@p-guhl.ch Thu Oct 26 20:33:30 2006 From: Peter Guhl To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] novell.com down? Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 20:31:12 +0200 Message-ID: <20061026183112.GL7790@kuerbis.chabis.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0858796753330394677==" --===============0858796753330394677== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello I have some urgent work to do needing Novell's website. A traceroute looks like that: 5 62-2-74-177.static.cablecom.ch (62.2.74.177) 6.714 ms 4.109 ms 4.693 ms 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 ch-gva01a-ra1-so-0-0-0.aorta.net (213.46.171.1) 16.105 ms 18.989 ms 18.040 ms 9 fr-par02a-rd1-pos-1-0.aorta.net (213.46.160.25) 40.928 ms 35.799 ms 35.768 ms 10 us-was02a-rd1-pos-1-0.aorta.net (213.46.160.106) 119.989 ms 122.670 ms 116.672 ms 11 us-was02a-ri1-ge-0-0-0-0.aorta.net (213.46.190.190) 131.806 ms 122.311 ms 115.893 ms 12 4.79.168.201 (4.79.168.201) 110.311 ms 109.805 ms 109.514 ms 13 att-level3-oc192.Washington1.Level3.net (4.68.127.154) 111.181 ms att-level3-oc192.Washington1.Level3.net (209.244.219.142) 139.298 ms att-level3-oc192.Washington1.Level3.net (4.68.127.154) 111.104 ms 14 tbr1-p014001.wswdc.ip.att.net (12.123.8.98) 184.822 ms 184.428 ms 229.119 ms 15 tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net (12.122.10.30) 189.862 ms 187.768 ms 201.821 ms 16 tbr1-cl1886.dvmco.ip.att.net (12.122.10.221) 256.620 ms 253.457 ms 184.966 ms 17 gar1-p360.slkut.ip.att.net (12.122.2.237) 182.611 ms 183.261 ms 182.628 ms 18 12.127.106.34 (12.127.106.34) 186.215 ms 184.805 ms 186.362 ms 19 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 187.123 ms 186.472 ms 183.902 ms [...] 56 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 189.795 ms 193.477 ms 189.856 ms 57 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 188.096 ms 189.535 ms 192.687 ms 58 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 204.426 ms 196.524 ms 194.274 ms 59 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 189.640 ms 190.107 ms 191.890 ms 60 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 190.288 ms 193.465 ms 190.228 ms 61 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 193.451 ms 189.614 ms 190.231 ms 62 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 190.349 ms 189.512 ms 190.270 ms 63 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 190.314 ms 189.552 ms 189.553 ms 64 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 191.027 ms 191.566 ms 200.842 ms Line 19 to 64 are identical. How on earth can this be done? Wrong netmask maybe? 192.94.118.253 is already at Novell - therefore it's probably slightly OT, in here. But still... maybe somebody from Novell is reading this and is able to help. Regards Peter -- Wer arbeitet macht Fehler. Wer viel arbeitet macht viele Fehler. Wer nicht arbeitet macht keine Fehler. Wer keine Fehler macht wird befördert! --===============0858796753330394677==-- From jeroen@unfix.org Thu Oct 26 20:54:38 2006 From: Jeroen Massar To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] novell.com down? Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:54:18 +0100 Message-ID: <4541045A.2070500@spaghetti.zurich.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: <20061026183112.GL7790@kuerbis.chabis.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1772278268010418848==" --===============1772278268010418848== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Guhl wrote: > Hello > > I have some urgent work to do needing Novell's website. A traceroute looks > like that: www.novell.com works fine from here. (Since when is Novell into mobile stuff?) > 5 62-2-74-177.static.cablecom.ch (62.2.74.177) 6.714 ms 4.109 ms 4.693 > ms > 6 * * * > 7 * * * [..] Nice firewall-rules breaking ICMP here already.... > 19 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 187.123 ms 186.472 ms 183.902 ms > [...] > Line 19 to 64 are identical. How on earth can this be done? Wrong netmask > maybe? Nopes, just a nice firewall. > 192.94.118.253 is already at Novell - therefore it's probably slightly OT, > in here. But still... maybe somebody from Novell is reading this and is able > to help. man tcpdump or wireshark your connection to find out more details. Also in general, problems with websites are better tested by doing a telnet to port 80 of the box and typing a HTTP query... Greets, Jeroen --===============1772278268010418848== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC41IChNaW5n VzMyKQpDb21tZW50OiBKZXJvZW4gTWFzc2FyIC8gaHR0cDovL3VuZml4Lm9yZy9+amVyb2VuLwoK aUhVRUFSRUNBRFVGQWtWQkJGNHVGSUFBQUFBQUZRQVFjR3RoTFdGa1pISmxjM05BWjI1MWNHY3Vi M0puYW1WeQpiMlZ1UUhWdVptbDRMbTl5WndBS0NSQXBxaWhTTXo1OEl4blBBS0N3MDU4TE5TRExE eHQ4T0hYaGlUZmhDTjQvCkt3Q2ZaSGZhZDlmcTNOajhsczV4d05BMGxYVHlucG89Cj1mdi9pCi0t LS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQo= --===============1772278268010418848==-- From ventilator@semmel.ch Fri Oct 27 12:25:59 2006 From: Martin Ebnoether To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] novell.com down? Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:23:57 +0200 Message-ID: <20061027102357.GB519@semmel.ch> In-Reply-To: <4541045A.2070500@spaghetti.zurich.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1752750104877082608==" --===============1752750104877082608== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On the Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 07:54:18PM +0100, Jeroen Massar blubbered: Hi. > > 5 62-2-74-177.static.cablecom.ch (62.2.74.177) 6.714 ms 4.109 ms 4.6= 93 > > ms > > 6 * * * > > 7 * * * > [..] >=20 > Nice firewall-rules breaking ICMP here already.... Braindead and useless. Use tcptraceroute in such cases. > > 19 192.94.118.253 (192.94.118.253) 187.123 ms 186.472 ms 183.902 ms > > [...] > > Line 19 to 64 are identical. How on earth can this be done? Wrong netmask > > maybe? >=20 > Nopes, just a nice firewall. >=20 > > 192.94.118.253 is already at Novell - therefore it's probably slightly OT, > > in here. But still... maybe somebody from Novell is reading this and is a= ble > > to help. >=20 > man tcpdump or wireshark your connection to find out more details. >=20 > Also in general, problems with websites are better tested by doing a > telnet to port 80 of the box and typing a HTTP query... ACK. That way you see if it's unreachable or just a server overload. That and tcptraceroute. =3D:-) CU, Venty --=20 Martin Ebn=C3=B6ther, ventilator(a)semmelmail http://www.semmel.ch/ Videogamer, Techno Musician, Gourmet, R-Typer, Beer drinker, Lefty Symlinker, Playstationeer, Chilihead, Honda driver, Paranoia GM=20 This space for rent. Call 0800-Semmel-Ads --===============1752750104877082608==-- From mb-list@adfinis.ch Fri Oct 27 12:54:24 2006 From: Matthias Blaser To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:55:00 +0200 Message-ID: <200610271255.00046.mb-list@adfinis.ch> In-Reply-To: <1161855541.6866.17.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3077709832063493501==" --===============3077709832063493501== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thursday 26 October 2006 11:39, Pascal Gloor wrote: > [1] http://www.spale.com/cgi-bin/swinogreg Is it fair that the first 2 could register 36 years in advance? ;o) Matthias -- Matthias Blaser [Phone: +41 31 381 70 48, Mobile: +41 79 501 36 53] adfinis GmbH, Neufeldstrasse 9, 3012 Bern (Switzerland) Email: mb(a)adfinis.com, Skype: maetthu_adfinis, http://www.adfinis.com --===============3077709832063493501==-- From tonnerre@bsdprojects.net Fri Oct 27 13:29:14 2006 From: Tonnerre LOMBARD To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:29:02 +0200 Message-ID: <20061027112902.GY2417@penrose.bsdprojects.net> In-Reply-To: <200610271255.00046.mb-list@adfinis.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8921036269215257848==" --===============8921036269215257848== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Salut, On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 12:55:00PM +0200, Matthias Blaser wrote: > On Thursday 26 October 2006 11:39, Pascal Gloor wrote: > > [1] http://www.spale.com/cgi-bin/swinogreg >=20 > Is it fair that the first 2 could register 36 years in advance? ;o) Early Bird registration windows are common for all kinds of conferences. See also http://209.85.129.104/search?q=3Dcache:D4vRiYdYSvsJ:www.ggu.edu/courses/secti= on.do%3Fid%3D19635+jan+01+1970 Tonnerre --===============8921036269215257848== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.sig" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC41IChOZXRC U0QpCgppUUlWQXdVQlJVSHRmdTFtTUdhbi9UbldBUUpqd2hBQXZCZkFIRzBtL01TYXZtMEh0ZW0z NGJoNmRwS01qSXNqCk1nd1BuczZTeTBUcXcyNlNERi9FSW9lOEU5MkNJYVlqWXVzT3phUVExc0VN SzkzYzlDakNUcmpLRmYzWU0zOTcKWHoydVJvVFJYSWlpaG9BRGZnNk9DcUk1ZmUzMko5NE02YVZC bUx2dVp6M1YwOGxXTWlCMkNZdmhzR3d2TEtZdwpra1UySkFqRnhabXJ0WlRrbW1SY0pLdmZpb2Fw SW0xUko3N2xrc2FXVHFaVDJLaDdvU29obCtXOXNPSnpXRGZvClVmZjQwendsdkY4QVlQc2NuMXRt RG1oSWoxTlFmb0dZdUV1a0JubEJhWkFHc1A1TjdyK0RtUHREMHlzbDk5dDYKYzlScjJDMHY0UlV4 UlQ0QVhiZTh1Sys3S2N6MlRnUU9qamRTaisyRzhxMU9DcE5UT1NxU090ajBEYnhlK0t0UgpzRVUr Ykw0S3JHbG5UeGpTVWJIeGpKcnJzYmo2TDZpWm94N3BUOVlVQ1MxL28zMkxPSVRBcERZNHh0MjRK bGJKCjBsZmI2RG9kNlErRE04L3drZ3dlTStueUNkMlpZUGg3WUV3bzJFZFM2MVc4RjJDQ2tOMWZw SFpyMnFqZWE2RTQKQlNBY0xuY2ZzNlVZMXFDb0tIOEZUM0lvdkgwcUJYY2tHWjZkVzM0YWxBN0M0 RUJwNitiait6bTZBOVFaazRKQgp0VHVtM3AvKzFMdmN2TmMraHdEc1lKcmRubnppT3J4YUF5cmVo SGdnKzR6ckFWYzFFOFdnR1NTOTBBa1FiTUlMCmZhNXJadnd3eC80ck42R0liL3VsRHNPTEdLWkpV TWE0M1Z2WG4wMWVmWkxyYjlkbEJDYS9MdFMyM2JqYkErTUIKYWFTVHVYR1FJTFU9Cj1DaHNiCi0t LS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQo= --===============8921036269215257848==-- From jerome.tissieres@smart-telecom.ch Fri Oct 27 14:23:48 2006 From: =?utf-8?q?J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me_Tissi=C3=A8res?= To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:23:33 +0200 Message-ID: <86918CDC1242004D8B0563A43D1E2F0C01B08EEC@exch-pul-01.interne.smart-telecom.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3596277792704529045==" --===============3596277792704529045== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Maybe the solution is to limit to two or three persons per company ? I count 9 guys from one company, 6 from another, etc... Cu, Jerome > -----Message d'origine----- > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] De la part de Matthias Blaser > Envoyé : vendredi, 27. octobre 2006 12:55 > À : swinog(a)swinog.ch > Objet : Re: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration > > On Thursday 26 October 2006 11:39, Pascal Gloor wrote: > > [1] http://www.spale.com/cgi-bin/swinogreg > > Is it fair that the first 2 could register 36 years in advance? ;o) > > Matthias > > -- > Matthias Blaser [Phone: +41 31 381 70 48, Mobile: +41 79 501 > 36 53] adfinis GmbH, Neufeldstrasse 9, 3012 Bern (Switzerland) > Email: mb(a)adfinis.com, Skype: maetthu_adfinis, > http://www.adfinis.com _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============3596277792704529045==-- From oppermann@networx.ch Fri Oct 27 14:38:40 2006 From: Andre Oppermann To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:38:33 +0200 Message-ID: <4541FDC9.30803@networx.ch> In-Reply-To: =?utf-8?q?=3C86918CDC1242004D8B0563A43D1E2F0C01B08EEC=40exch-pu?= =?utf-8?q?l-01=2Einterne=2Esmart-telecom=2Ech=3E?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0885570470799631842==" --===============0885570470799631842== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jérôme Tissières wrote: > Maybe the solution is to limit to two or three persons per company ? > I count 9 guys from one company, 6 from another, etc... yeah, of which two thirds won't show up like the last time, and the one before, and the one before that one... -- Andre --===============0885570470799631842==-- From Aida.Fernandez_Pena@alcatel.ch Fri Oct 27 14:41:50 2006 From: "FERNANDEZ PENA, Aida" To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:41:34 +0200 Message-ID: <18C54B7D796D2E45A14D0FF82EBC6882FA63BE@DESTGS0003I.adm.alcatel.com> In-Reply-To: <4541FDC9.30803@networx.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0241474641321964711==" --===============0241474641321964711== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, those of us that are "pending" could always "try" to go??? =20 -----Original Message----- From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.= ch] On Behalf Of Andre Oppermann Sent: 27 October 2006 14:39 To: swinog(a)swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me Tissi=C3=A8res wrote: > Maybe the solution is to limit to two or three persons per company ? I=20 > count 9 guys from one company, 6 from another, etc... yeah, of which two thirds won't show up like the last time, and the one befor= e, and the one before that one... --=20 Andre _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swin= og --===============0241474641321964711==-- From jerome.tissieres@smart-telecom.ch Fri Oct 27 14:57:34 2006 From: =?utf-8?q?J=C3=A9r=C3=B4me_Tissi=C3=A8res?= To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:57:16 +0200 Message-ID: <86918CDC1242004D8B0563A43D1E2F0C01B08F5F@exch-pul-01.interne.smart-telecom.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7625309361449116210==" --===============7625309361449116210== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Maybe we can try the FIFO queue at the door of the meeting room ? :) Cheers, Jerome > -----Message d'origine----- > De : swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] De la part de > FERNANDEZ PENA, Aida > Envoyé : vendredi, 27. octobre 2006 14:42 > À : swinog(a)swinog.ch > Objet : RE: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration > > So, those of us that are "pending" could always "try" to go??? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-bounces(a)lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Andre Oppermann > Sent: 27 October 2006 14:39 > To: swinog(a)swinog.ch > Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration > > > Jérôme Tissières wrote: > > Maybe the solution is to limit to two or three persons per > company ? I > > count 9 guys from one company, 6 from another, etc... > > yeah, of which two thirds won't show up like the last time, > and the one before, and the one before that one... > > -- > Andre > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============7625309361449116210==-- From om-lists-swinog@omx.ch Fri Oct 27 16:03:22 2006 From: Olivier Mueller To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:03:03 +0200 Message-ID: <1161957783.18623.23.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> In-Reply-To: =?utf-8?q?=3C86918CDC1242004D8B0563A43D1E2F0C01B08F5F=40exch-pu?= =?utf-8?q?l-01=2Einterne=2Esmart-telecom=2Ech=3E?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5032301041786737713==" --===============5032301041786737713== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 14:57 +0200, Jérôme Tissières wrote: > Maybe we can try the FIFO queue at the door of the meeting room ? :) Or only let in the people who reached the level F of the quiz :-) ( http://www.spale.com/quiz/ ). regards & a nice week-end to everybody, Olivier --===============5032301041786737713==-- From Christian.Kuster@swisscom.com Fri Oct 27 16:06:07 2006 From: Christian.Kuster@swisscom.com To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:05:53 +0200 Message-ID: <0E333B9B0CFA1F41A0EF43FBB78B9F2503FCBA61@sxmbx56.corproot.net> In-Reply-To: <1161957783.18623.23.camel@bigapple.omnis.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5367147081343319664==" --===============5367147081343319664== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 14:57 +0200, Jérôme Tissières wrote: > Maybe we can try the FIFO queue at the door of the meeting room ? :) And use Random early discard ;-) --===============5367147081343319664==-- From ssinyagin@yahoo.com Mon Oct 30 14:41:24 2006 From: Stanislav Sinyagin To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] IP allocation management tool Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:41:04 -0800 Message-ID: <20061030134104.95828.qmail@web51915.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0011689339544211144==" --===============0011689339544211144== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi all, does anyone use some good opensource tool for IP allocations management? I tried these two, neither is good enough: http://iptrack.sourceforge.net/ http://www.phpip.net/ The tool should be helpful in everyday LIR operation: -- Allocating new prefixes, with customer description -- Address/mask consistency verification -- Suggestion of a next free block on request -- Assignment of host addresses -- Ideal would be to verify with RIPE database and reverse DNS -- Great would be security levels, so that various pools could be administered by different people thanks, stan --===============0011689339544211144==-- From adrian@senn.ch Mon Oct 30 15:49:07 2006 From: Adrian Senn To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] IP allocation management tool Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:48:53 +0100 Message-ID: <454610D5.6060800@senn.ch> In-Reply-To: <20061030134104.95828.qmail@web51915.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5004144703325428387==" --===============5004144703325428387== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stan > -- Ideal would be to verify with RIPE database and reverse DNS > -- Great would be security levels, so that various pools > could be administered by different people Look for the Lucent Vital Suite. At work i use QIP for the hole management. I know our part is not the same as for ISP. http://www.lucent.com/solutions/nms.html If you want more information ask Genesis Communcation. This is the main distributor in Switzerland for this Software http://www.genesiscom.ch/ Regards Adrian --===============5004144703325428387==-- From pascal.gloor@spale.com Mon Oct 30 16:42:41 2006 From: Pascal Gloor To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG#13 Registration Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:42:27 +0100 Message-ID: <1162222947.10581.5.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200610271255.00046.mb-list@adfinis.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8138733692287854091==" --===============8138733692287854091== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear SwiNOGers, Registration is definitely closed now. All 110 participants are welcome to join SwiNOG#13. You will get a confirmation email tonight or tomorrow morning with all the details and your WLAN codes. Many thanks to: our WLAN Sponsor, TheNet http://www.thenet.ch our Main Sponsor, Agilent Technologies http://www.agilent.com/ our Beer^H^H^H^HSocial event Sponsor, T-Systems http://www.t-systems.ch ;-) Pascal SwiNOG Core Team --===============8138733692287854091== Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" MIME-Version: 1.0 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIJFzCCAuYw ggJPoAMCAQICED6cnPoB63NQ4QjYmKKxlJYwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQAwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkEx JTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQ ZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA2MDYyMTA3MjE1NFoXDTA3MDYyMTA3MjE1 NFowSDEfMB0GA1UEAxMWVGhhd3RlIEZyZWVtYWlsIE1lbWJlcjElMCMGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYWcGFz Y2FsLmdsb29yQHNwYWxlLmNvbTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEPADCCAQoCggEBAJy07OIH t2+2k95s004uZBUMEbE1vBPOcYlzeeHElULNXSUh+VfHEs22MzlLFy2ivKn7c2OF9eGpL7g9gn9F nWfIWxmRiDGe+UtEn5O21H0MGQuPqzQI0EO23Ddm7KZdy6FnL6rbCM6ZfsROS0l379DLR2woTde6 eackn3KVaCCXXPooRvLOrQ2Hd+DreVbHnVuJSVTFkNpr/zwWi8WJB87LwStCD9jYC9l9FYYPy3Zi G6q58emu8j1WQ3r2oyD5qon3nbTEFBop9w6K/INHm997fFx74x9GkInAZNYoypF26rzA6IWelujg Elzft8SDrQQ1/V0/Yqd+cmZ/VAOOGe8CAwEAAaMzMDEwIQYDVR0RBBowGIEWcGFzY2FsLmdsb29y QHNwYWxlLmNvbTAMBgNVHRMBAf8EAjAAMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAA4GBAEe3GmZ2hsKqK41WAYLO fJDuNIdqkr1Cc24c13Rh5vKcMO8JjnbPdq+84LvBHExJjMgTxTxPOf8fkjbym526dOVxPw6y5+Vj GwUNCv2xTgta5CpnyetQhsJZdFyLaYMUc5g3L1FWkWQP32KoKg0/tEAL9aKu5n8jG4wSG8cXWy7m MIIC5jCCAk+gAwIBAgIQPpyc+gHrc1DhCNiYorGUljANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADBiMQswCQYDVQQG EwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UEAxMjVGhh d3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwHhcNMDYwNjIxMDcyMTU0WhcNMDcwNjIx MDcyMTU0WjBIMR8wHQYDVQQDExZUaGF3dGUgRnJlZW1haWwgTWVtYmVyMSUwIwYJKoZIhvcNAQkB FhZwYXNjYWwuZ2xvb3JAc3BhbGUuY29tMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEA nLTs4ge3b7aT3mzTTi5kFQwRsTW8E85xiXN54cSVQs1dJSH5V8cSzbYzOUsXLaK8qftzY4X14akv uD2Cf0WdZ8hbGZGIMZ75S0Sfk7bUfQwZC4+rNAjQQ7bcN2bspl3LoWcvqtsIzpl+xE5LSXfv0MtH bChN17p5pySfcpVoIJdc+ihG8s6tDYd34Ot5VsedW4lJVMWQ2mv/PBaLxYkHzsvBK0IP2NgL2X0V hg/LdmIbqrnx6a7yPVZDevajIPmqifedtMQUGin3Dor8g0eb33t8XHvjH0aQicBk1ijKkXbqvMDo hZ6W6OASXN+3xIOtBDX9XT9ip35yZn9UA44Z7wIDAQABozMwMTAhBgNVHREEGjAYgRZwYXNjYWwu Z2xvb3JAc3BhbGUuY29tMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEEBQADgYEAR7caZnaGwqor jVYBgs58kO40h2qSvUJzbhzXdGHm8pww7wmOds92r7zgu8EcTEmMyBPFPE85/x+SNvKbnbp05XE/ DrLn5WMbBQ0K/bFOC1rkKmfJ61CGwll0XItpgxRzmDcvUVaRZA/fYqgqDT+0QAv1oq7mfyMbjBIb xxdbLuYwggM/MIICqKADAgECAgENMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMIHRMQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTEVMBMG A1UECBMMV2VzdGVybiBDYXBlMRIwEAYDVQQHEwlDYXBlIFRvd24xGjAYBgNVBAoTEVRoYXd0ZSBD b25zdWx0aW5nMSgwJgYDVQQLEx9DZXJ0aWZpY2F0aW9uIFNlcnZpY2VzIERpdmlzaW9uMSQwIgYD VQQDExtUaGF3dGUgUGVyc29uYWwgRnJlZW1haWwgQ0ExKzApBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWHHBlcnNvbmFs LWZyZWVtYWlsQHRoYXd0ZS5jb20wHhcNMDMwNzE3MDAwMDAwWhcNMTMwNzE2MjM1OTU5WjBiMQsw CQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoGA1UE AxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0EwgZ8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD gY0AMIGJAoGBAMSmPFVzVftOucqZWh5owHUEcJ3f6f+jHuy9zfVb8hp2vX8MOmHyv1HOAdTlUAow 1wJjWiyJFXCO3cnwK4Vaqj9xVsuvPAsH5/EfkTYkKhPPK9Xzgnc9A74r/rsYPge/QIACZNenpruf ZdHFKlSFD0gEf6e20TxhBEAeZBlyYLf7AgMBAAGjgZQwgZEwEgYDVR0TAQH/BAgwBgEB/wIBADBD BgNVHR8EPDA6MDigNqA0hjJodHRwOi8vY3JsLnRoYXd0ZS5jb20vVGhhd3RlUGVyc29uYWxGcmVl bWFpbENBLmNybDALBgNVHQ8EBAMCAQYwKQYDVR0RBCIwIKQeMBwxGjAYBgNVBAMTEVByaXZhdGVM YWJlbDItMTM4MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAA4GBAEiM0VCD6gsuzA2jZqxnD3+vrL7CF6FDlpSdf0wh uPg2H6otnzYvwPQcUCCTcDz9reFhYsPZOhl+hLGZGwDFGguCdJ4lUJRix9sncVcljd2pnDmOjCBP ZV+V2vf3h9bGCE6u9uo05RAaWzVNd+NWIXiC3CEZNd4ksdMdRv9dX2VPMYIDEDCCAwwCAQEwdjBi MQswCQYDVQQGEwJaQTElMCMGA1UEChMcVGhhd3RlIENvbnN1bHRpbmcgKFB0eSkgTHRkLjEsMCoG A1UEAxMjVGhhd3RlIFBlcnNvbmFsIEZyZWVtYWlsIElzc3VpbmcgQ0ECED6cnPoB63NQ4QjYmKKx lJYwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAW8wGAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUx DxcNMDYxMDMwMTU0MjI0WjAjBgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQUqxWy8wrwviou+VIqltZK+MGow2swgYUG CSsGAQQBgjcQBDF4MHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5n IChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENB AhA+nJz6AetzUOEI2JiisZSWMIGHBgsqhkiG9w0BCRACCzF4oHYwYjELMAkGA1UEBhMCWkExJTAj BgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMTI1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJz b25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBAhA+nJz6AetzUOEI2JiisZSWMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUA BIIBAIPW4qM5UQVa6bgF8LQSsNQJvvbOqJ+iaUbYlmfug1GQyLrAkg4R/makQ3AHqlRkzhCi1cqA R2XGx7QrBV3CnGtnLboXesv5Emo/4hW5Q+sGHSh4S8bxrjruqWxvzMq6Zy4Kpl7pdxAEAGttpc7a hWEK6D1DbHDtl/9v+9LzKqqFtzWOrHlfLJO0dp8LTI8SsD5lf4Ztfu6i/BKorIJ8PpeQ38wF8l6y bk+fQjm585yUjLeH2T9i+etjoYOCVWDtXOL4sSepCcj8uzVFUV1xIXaMIulmmnp6xiGKs/o6rLh+ 2gll17usuEoMfuQ/CTeOWWlmw6Kz8AZKv0cw5/YDl7QAAAAAAAA= --===============8138733692287854091==-- From ventilator@semmel.ch Tue Oct 31 11:33:53 2006 From: Martin Ebnoether To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] GPG Keysigning tomorrow anyone? Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:33:38 +0100 Message-ID: <20061031103338.GF13820@semmel.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5035067378702564216==" --===============5035067378702564216== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all. Tomorrow is the big day, another SwiNOG Meeting takes place. =:-) I thought, this would be the perfect opportunity for a bit of GPG keysigning. Anyone interested please bring your fingerprints and an ID so we can sign the keys during breaks or the social event. I'll sure have mine with me. CU, Venty -- Martin Ebnöther, ventilator(a)semmelmail http://www.semmel.ch/ Videogamer, Techno Musician, Gourmet, R-Typer, Beer drinker, Lefty Symlinker, Playstationeer, Chilihead, Honda driver, Paranoia GM This space for rent. Call 0800-Semmel-Ads --===============5035067378702564216== Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.sig" MIME-Version: 1.0 LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjEuNC41IChOZXRC U0QpCgppRDhEQlFGRlJ5YUNaT0d6YlRYZEtzSVJBcWhRQUtEYlhVYVpsN0ZxaHRoWXhqN3l4dTF4 S0FZSkNBQ2ZWVDZECndQQjRjQmNianRIcytNNjh1UktQaktVPQo9ZGwxeQotLS0tLUVORCBQR1Ag U0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0K --===============5035067378702564216==-- From marco.stieger@calivia.com Tue Oct 31 23:48:53 2006 From: Marco Stieger To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Subject: Re: [swinog] GPG Keysigning tomorrow anyone? Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:48:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4547D2CD.6020805@calivia.com> In-Reply-To: <20061031103338.GF13820@semmel.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2002904934304569813==" --===============2002904934304569813== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can spend 35p on CAcert if anyone interested. Marco Martin Ebnoether wrote: > Hi all. > > Tomorrow is the big day, another SwiNOG Meeting takes place. > =:-) I thought, this would be the perfect opportunity for a bit > of GPG keysigning. Anyone interested please bring your > fingerprints and an ID so we can sign the keys during breaks or > the social event. I'll sure have mine with me. > > CU, Venty > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > swinog mailing list > swinog(a)lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > --===============2002904934304569813==--